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my posts are acting weird now. did i get flagged for daring to speak ill of the ipad? jeez. i didn't realize this was our religion.
 
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Ummmm incorrect. I have a major surgery coming up and the only way me and my doctor could sit down together and review the CT Scan was with my iPad 2 since all CT Scans are done on digital now instead of film. I simply stopped by the hospital and snagged the cd the night before my appointment and loaded it before I left the next day.

My doctor said this was on his wish list, but he couldn't find anywhere in stock.


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The "Only way" ?

What, you could not use a laptop?

And how would an iPad only owner read the CD in the 1st place?

Yes the iPad made a nice easy to use picture viewer once you had put the images on it from your real computer at home is what you are saying.

You could just of easy taken a laptop which read the CD images off directly onto the screen and no needed this new device whatsoever.
 
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Apple commercials are bright, uplifting and show how technology enhances the human experience. They show people using iPads, iPhones, MacBooks, etc in everyday situations. However Android Zoom, BB Playbook, Tab are dark, joyless with people abducted by aliens, enveloped and overpowered by machines, etc.

You mean like that new one for the Droid Charge, where they have that futuristic setting, and with the one glowing white sphere representing the Android OS, and the red glowing sphere representing 4G, and the Droid Charge is the result when they collide?

I can see the tagline now... "The all-new Droid Charge, by Samsung... it's like your two balls getting mashed together."

Man, I should totally be in marketing.

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I don't really see why Apple will never do that. When Jobs said styluses are crap, obviously he didn't mean styluses as writing devices, he meant styluses as the way to interact with OS.
Education applications seem to be of some importance to Apple, and stylus support is pretty much required to make iPad useful for students, for example.

IMO, until the ipad gets this, which is entirely possible, it will remain more of a toy than a tool, and all these commercials will be nothing but fodder for the haters.

there's nothing wrong with toys, and this is a nice one, but these lines about doctors, CEOs, etc., are just plain ridiculous.

Seriously, you think Drs and CEOs need pressure sensitive styluses? You are the one being ridiculous.

The thing about all those lines, they are all true. You latch on to a single feature and try to use it to disqualify 1000s of unrelated use cases.

- most people, even professionals do not require any stylus to effectively use an iPad.
- there are dozens of good styluses for the iPad already. Some even do a decent job of approximating pressure sensitive. These syluses cover 95%+ of what the people who want styluses are looking for. The other 5% or trying to replace a specialized drawing device with an iPad.

So 5% of .01% care about pressure sensitive styluses. (I am being very generous here, the number is actually quite a bit smaller then that).

I do use a stylus on my iPad, every single day. I take notes with it and sign contracts....
 
love the ad, truly a great device. a year ago everyone joke about the name but now people see the true side of the device what it could actually do.
 
Seriously, you think Drs and CEOs need pressure sensitive styluses? You are the one being ridiculous.

The thing about all those lines, they are all true. You latch on to a single feature and try to use it to disqualify 1000s of unrelated use cases.

- most people, even professionals do not require any stylus to effectively use an iPad.
- there are dozens of good styluses for the iPad already. Some even do a decent job of approximating pressure sensitive. These syluses cover 95%+ of what the people who want styluses are looking for. The other 5% or trying to replace a specialized drawing device with an iPad.

So 5% of .01% care about pressure sensitive styluses. (I am being very generous here, the number is actually quite a bit smaller then that).

I do use a stylus on my iPad, every single day. I take notes with it and sign contracts....


i'm very surprised that you can defend the ipad's handwriting capabilities.

pressure sensitivity is not the issue.

when writing on ipad with a stylus you can not let any part of your hand rest on the screen, either that, or you can wear a crazy glove; this makes writing incredibly awkward.

but what's worse is the accuracy with which the stylus registers. the ipad was simply not built for this. lines come out jagged and disfigured. you can probably scribble something awful but readable. try drawing the simplest thing.

tell me i'm wrong.


as for your percentages:

what do people want to do with styluses? mostly write. some want to draw, artists, but also people that want to be able to sketch figures and ideas.

can the ipad do this effectively now? can a student take notes in class on an ipad? do you really think a student can take readable notes, fast enough, while writing with a 'hovering' hand?

tell me you do.

even if we said 100% of people simply want to be able to write, as on a regular pad, as i see it, all 100% will find the ipad dreadfully unsuitable.


yes, you can do a lot without a stylus. yes, i was unfair in my statements. yes, the ipad can still be useful.

is it MORE useful than a regular laptop? No. how could it be?

... if it had accurate stylus input.

yes, that would make it more expensive. in fact, what we're essentially talking about here is nothing more than a 'slate' tablet PC, which has been around forever. they're making a comeback thanks to the ipad, and i hope they will become the standard, for the higher end tablets anyways. they are more expensive than ipads, but they're actual computers that run full operating systems. they have touch and they have pen input.

that's a direction Apple should have gone in a long time ago. i hope, hope, hope they will go there in the future.
 
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Good ad , but if only FaceTime looked as clear and well defined in real usage as it does in the ad.....what a shame!
 
The "Only way" ?

What, you could not use a laptop?

And how would an iPad only owner read the CD in the 1st place?

Yes the iPad made a nice easy to use picture viewer once you had put the images on it from your real computer at home is what you are saying.

You could just of easy taken a laptop which read the CD images off directly onto the screen and no needed this new device whatsoever.
Wait, what, a CD? Do you come from the 90s? Why do you need to put it on a CD? Do you even know how this works? Do you know how heavy a laptop is compared to an iPad 2? Do you know how much it sucks to "just hand over" a laptop?
 
I don't really see why Apple will never do that. When Jobs said styluses are crap, obviously he didn't mean styluses as writing devices, he meant styluses as the way to interact with OS.
Education applications seem to be of some importance to Apple, and stylus support is pretty much required to make iPad useful for students, for example.

for drawing during class, maybe. there is a lot of stuff in chemistry or physics where you need to make a quick drawing. but for writing? i am typing way faster than i am writing with a pen. and in the end its way more readable. :D

if you really need a stylus there are already lots of options you can buy and use em with your ipad.

tell me i'm wrong.

can the ipad do this effectively now? can a student take notes in class on an ipad? do you really think a student can take readable notes, fast enough, while writing with a 'hovering' hand?

You are maybe wrong, cause I don't use a stylus. :)

A friend is using one and he said it works perfectly once you find the best stylus. There are a lots of different pens. He tried out a few in the store and he said the bad drawing comes from the cheap pens not because of the ipad screen. Try the griffin stylus if you can test it somewhere.
 
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yes, that would make it more expensive. in fact, what we're essentially talking about here is nothing more than a 'slate' tablet PC, which has been around forever. they're making a comeback thanks to the ipad, and i hope they will become the standard, for the higher end tablets anyways. they are more expensive than ipads, but they're actual computers that run full operating systems. they have touch and they have pen input.

that's a direction Apple should have gone in a long time ago. i hope, hope, hope they will go there in the future.

They've been around for a long time, and noone has bought them. And for good reason: they're awful. They try to do two things (touch and full OS), and the result is that they don't do either well (and that's being generous). And they're not making a comeback in any way. Companies that have traditionally made slates are ditching them for iPad-esque tablets.
 
If I could only find a personal use beyond web browsing.

Congratulations, you understood the main purpose of the iPad. Add Plants vs Zombies, Shredder Chess HD and a Comic Book reader and you've essentially discovered everything that can be done with the gadget. For everything else, it's too big to be a truly mobile device like a smartphone and too weak and restricted to replace a real computer.

But yes, at least the ads are great and really work the "magic". The only problem is that you won't stay in Wonderland with your iPad, and in the real world, it's just a nice toy for a couple of minutes but not really good for anything.
 
Congratulations, you understood the main purpose of the iPad. Add Plants vs Zombies, Shredder Chess HD and a Comic Book reader and you've essentially discovered everything that can be done with the gadget. For everything else, it's too big to be a truly mobile device like a smartphone and too weak and restricted to replace a real computer.

But yes, at least the ads are great and really work the "magic". The only problem is that you won't stay in Wonderland with your iPad, and in the real world, it's just a nice toy for a couple of minutes but not really good for anything.

Really? This is your opinion? So you think you're smarter than everyone else that's successfully using this device?

Wow.
 
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Are you living under a rock? Everything they shown is happening today with the iPad.
 
Name of apps ?

Does anyone know the name of the apps for the ceo and for the doctor ?
 
very. powerful. ad.

one of the best I've seen recently.

OK, so I've been using my iPad (v1) since a few weeks after they came out. I use it for business (note-taking, presentations, pages & numbers for document reading/generation, file access via goodreader/dropbox, and so on), for design (sketching, rendering, photo processing, wireframing, etc.), for music performance and production (that's my main gig... I compose, comp, and use some interesting tools for live performance), most of all, the iPad makes a great remote controller for music software (see Omni TR for Spectrasonics' Omnisphere, and TouchAble for controlling Ableton Live as two excellent examples).

And of course, I browse news/web/social media (Flipboard, Zite, Twitter etc.), read books, watch TED talks, learn (e.g. I'm currently studying Russian, and can practice listening in the background while I do other things, which is very cool)...

It becomes a shared reference during conversations... I use a translator, quick google searches, illustrate topics of discussion on the fly.

And of course, the occasional game, my current favorite being Need For Speed, which is tons of fun on this platform...

I use Apple's bluetooth keyboard together with the iPad for extended typing sessions, and it's a great setup. Basically the same functionality I get from a laptop arrangement... in fact, my MacBook Pro rarely leaves the house anymore.

So, is it magical? Nah... ok sometimes, almost... check out the new (free) "Planetary" app for browsing your iTunes library... that's pretty magical! :)

Is it useful? Productive? Entertaining? Yes to all...

Really, what's not to like?

Apple got it right. And this new ad nails it......

my long two cents! :)
 
But yes, at least the ads are great and really work the "magic". The only problem is that you won't stay in Wonderland with your iPad, and in the real world, it's just a nice toy for a couple of minutes but not really good for anything.

Thats what people said about the Kinect. Now look at what its doing when, especially when Academia got a hold of it. Just because you can't think of any uses doesn't make it a toy.
 
If you ask Hastings101, he might call it cheesy.

Fantastic, from so early in the thread and it should really have been /thread right there :). And yet no one got on board!

The ad is definitely that, but that's not to say it doesn't do a great marketing job.

Personally (redundant word, I know), I'm still holding back from the device for having no idea for what I would use it. Small World not having been downsized to the iPhone really just doesn't seem like enough of a use case! Maybe when the sequel comes out lol.
 
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