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Apple Releases iMacs

Dont Hurt Me I hear a lot of complaints ....These are all solid improvements and that makes this one fine little machine!This imac blows my almost 2yr powermac out of the water!Great!I Love it! just isnt enough though for me to get one so ill keep waiting for the 7457 or 970 to show but for anyone out there who was really thinking of getting one of these I say what are you waiting for?
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What am I waiting for - well you nailed it when you said "just isnt enough though for me".
I think that after all Apple's efforts on their Switcher campaign - this update will regretably looked back on as a lost opportunity for increasing market penetration.
So who at Cupertino is the genius with the fresh bullet hole in their foot ? ;)
 
Originally posted by MacsRgr8


Is there any reason for iPods to have FW 800? There's no way the HD of the iPod will even saturate half the bandwidth of FW 400
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True. Oh so true... I can't even think of a new DLD that would saturate the FW800.

I NEVER expected FW800 in that revision anyway. I don't see the point.

NicoMan
 
According to the specs page the Hard-discs are 7200rpm...is this another update?...if it is then I think for a lower price Apple have added a lot into the 17" version...

I'm getting one...first desktop mac to sit next to my iBook...PC can go out the window!
 
Re: Disappointed

Originally posted by Anecdoter
I'm not disappointed by the iMac upgrades, but when you compare them to last week's Power Mac upgrades, the Power Macs look more than a little disappointing them. Has Apple reached the point where they don't know what else to do but hack away the prices, make everything a build-to-order option and hope that they will sell. Anyone notice that the mid-level iMac is a better deal than the low-end Power Mac (by the time you factor in the cost of the display)?
I'd like to see some tweaks to the Power Mac line: bigger hard drives across all models, bluetooth and Airport Extreme included in every model, double the l3 cache and switch to the 7457 chip (double the l2 cache). Performance would be great, the price would be very competitive and very little R&D costs.
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All I can say is Motorola motorola motorola they are why the powermac line hasnt shown much advance! Heck iam surprised that apple moved a 1 giger in the imac. sure no l3 but big deal. Apple is doing all it can untill the newer chips come but if we know motorola i would not count on them at all!the powermac line really needs a shot in the arm and by that i mean the 970 or least the 7457 but if the 7457 isnt going to show for another year i would just dump motorola , and really get cooking with the 970 so as soon as they are mass produced they could get out the newer model.Still the new IMAC 1 giger is a fine sweet machine.
 
for anyone out there who was really thinking of getting one of these I say what are you waiting for?
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The price to not suck. These are supposed to be consumer machines.
 
Re: Disappointed

Originally posted by Anecdoter
. . . . Has Apple reached the point where they don't know what else to do but hack away the prices, make everything a build-to-order option and hope that they will sell. . . . .
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In this economy, the "market" wants lower prices, not higher performance, evidently. It's disappointing for anyone wanting higher performance, but that's not what's been selling units.
 
Re: 15" iMac

Originally posted by PretendPCuser Now, if APple would just make a portable version of OS X for the iPod and release a tablet PC, we'd all be happy...... oh wait... :rolleyes: [/B]
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Just get yourself a 12" PowerBook and be gone... :D

NicoMan
 
OS9 Bootable?

I am presuming that the emacs, with no technological changes, remain OS9 bootable. If that's the case, then the sub $1000 price may make it more attractive to education users.

Are the new imacs OS9 bootable? Maybe not such a big deal if offered to switchers and new computer users, but it would be interesting to know.
 
apple uk store has new price sticker on the ibook. is it the same on the us? I never noticed it before the updates but didn't check before to see if the prices have changed.
 
Lackluster

I am surprised and disappointed. Why they did not put the buss at 133 for both I do not know. Why they did not allow the monitors to twist from landscape to portrait, I do not know. Why they did not give better graphics on these consumer machines to support gaming, I do not know.
 
1,899.00

If you lower the ram, drop extreme card and drop the interal bluetooth then this is the total (without taxes): $1,899.00.

I see no problems with this price, it's 100.00 cheeper than the original high end 17" IMac.

Remember you can *adjust* these prices on in the apple store.
 
seems (on the 17" imac) that the memory slots are now (probably) both user accessible. On the store the memory in both slots is now SO-DIMM, whereas the old models had a DIMM in the factory slot.

Of course, the second SO-DIMM could still be non-accessible, and only there to reduce size to make room for the internal bluetooth.
 
Originally posted by Swinny
According to the specs page the Hard-discs are 7200rpm...is this another update?...if it is then I think for a lower price Apple have added a lot into the 17" version...

I'm getting one...first desktop mac to sit next to my iBook...PC can go out the window!
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I think the previous HDs were 5400rpm. Can anyone confirm this ?

NicoMan
 
iMacs slow? For what exactly?

Hi,

someone earlier said their mate had an 'old' 17" 800MHz iMac and it was "soooo slow". What were you doing on it? Last night: backing 2.8GB of photos to a DVD, posting apps and MP3s to my home page, syncing with my Palm and surfing the BBC news site. With iCal and iTunes running. Oh and changing stuff on my iDisk.

I used to be a PC guy ... I work with databases and felt I couldn't live without a high end PC at home to run MS SQL Server, Oracle, Java dev apps, play games etc. I can honestly say I don't notice the difference. The iMac runs Reason 2 and Cubase fine at the same time (as does my bottom of the range G3 iBook) ... I remember the PC I had (Gateway) not being able to play certain Reason 1 songs without running out of ooomph!

So, what was your mate trying to do?

Stu
 
Originally posted by Swinny
According to the specs page the Hard-discs are 7200rpm...is this another update?...if it is then I think for a lower price Apple have added a lot into the 17" version...

I'm getting one...first desktop mac to sit next to my iBook...PC can go out the window!
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Yes, I read the 7200rpm too and I believe it is another update in the list. I was going to point it out if nobody else had:D I'll be ordering mine today!
 
Not good.

The high end model is okay, but really for that price there should be more features. At a minimum 512MB RAM.

The middle model does not seem to exist and should be placed at the current low end model's price point.

The low end model should be $999 at most. The current price is ridiculous.

I don't expect many of these to be flying off the shelves. I do expect these prices to drop if Apple wants to sell any.

Also, the upgrade to 7200 harddrives in any computer results in little or no gain in system responsivity. This is even more true in Macs running OS X with no L3 cache and only 256MB RAM.
 
Originally posted by CrackedButter
For the UK version of the 17" imac, you can drop its price by £330 if you lose the RAM and the bluetooth. You are paying nearly £290 for overpriced RAM.
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If you plan on getting 3rd party RAM to max it out, I would advise to downgrade to 512MB - 1 DIMM. Because that said DIMM is VERY difficult to access, and unless you have experience with the iMac, wouldn't advise to do it yourself (unless you like this sort of thing of course. In that case, downgrade it all the way to 256MB, and buy 3rd party 1 GB RAM). The second slot, however, is relatively easy to upgrade.

NicoMan
 
Memory Upgrades for New iMacs

Does anyone have detailed info about the DDR memory chips in the new iMacs? Enough details that I could order some extra RAM right after I order my 17" iMac? I usually just use crucial.com's memory selector, but of course they don't have info for these machines. I know the chips are PC2100 DDR, 184 pin. What are the others specs (buffered/unbuffered, latency, etc.)? Any help (or even better, a link to the correct chips at some online retailer) would be greatly appreciated. I'm definitely ordering a 17" iMac but I don't want to pay Apple's ridiculous prices for additonal memory. I just want to add a 512MB chip into the second slot. Thanks.
 
also uk ultimate imac doesnt have AE built in, it costs another £79 that you have to add as an option. A mistake maybe or us brits getting ripped off again?
 
I knew it. I ****ing knew it.

It was just to good to be true. The run lasted from last novembers rollout of new Powerbooks and iBooks, to last weeks upgraded Power Macs and displays. That was a whopping span of three months of tentative good vibrations coming out of Cupertino. Today Apple opted for a head on collision with a brick wall and the result was anything but good.

What is this? One year after the introduction of the FP iMac all they can muster is a relative minor upgrade of the specs. Yes, I know, the captious minded will surely find something, but in the big picture this amounts to no more than; same ****, same wrapping, more expensive and thus losing its appeal faster than you can spell "No Switch".

Memo to Steve: You had the chance, but blew it. BIG TIME.
 
Originally posted by js995
seems (on the 17" imac) that the memory slots are now (probably) both user accessible. On the store the memory in both slots is now SO-DIMM, whereas the old models had a DIMM in the factory slot.

Of course, the second SO-DIMM could still be non-accessible, and only there to reduce size to make room for the internal bluetooth.
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17-inch model includes 256MB of PC2100 (266MHz) DDR SDRAM expandable to 1GB; one 184-pin DIMM and one open user-accessible SO-DIMM slot
15-inch model includes 256MB of SDRAM expandable to 1GB; one 168-pin DIMM and one open user-accessible SO-DIMM slot

It looks like the same "user-accessible SO-DIMM" slot to me... :(
 
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