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Because some are observing how buggy these releases are first hand. Just read the bug fix notes

Others have "no issues for years on end" with a flawless track record of releases. That is a fortunate experience to have.

With those completely two different conclusions:

Someone is either missing something that's there they aren't aware of and skating by without a hiccup, or someone is outright lying and being completely hyperbolic about the issues these releases have had and there is no issue.

Both scenarios can't exist. Ya see?

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It's not a knock to that user. I wish my experience was as flawless as theirs. But it isn't. Therefore I'm disgruntled
Seems like you overlooked what that reply was all about and took it as something else. It was in relation to someone updating right away and not running into issues with that practice (of updating right way) that has worked fine for them. It wasn't about not running into issues with the OS or devices themselves, as has been pointed out before.
 
Either way, updates are good. They shouldn't break more things, but that's software dev for the masses for you. Apple always comes through and patches/updates as soon as possible. That seems to be overlooked by the naysayers, in comparison to other tech giants.
LOL have you ever heard of microsoft’s patch day? every week they release “sercurity updates”, and their product for the most part are still trash.
 
Seems like you overlooked what that reply was all about and took it as something else. It was in relation to someone updating right away and not running into issues with that practice (of updating right way) that has worked fine for them. It wasn't about not running into issues with the OS or devices themselves, as has been pointed out before.

It's not. Updating always, day 1 no less, andnever having problems ever, for years, is something that feeds into everything I just described. One In the same

Let's chalk it up as agree to disagree I suppose.
 
I always update immediately. Have been for years and never have issues.
Knock on wood, so have I. I'm updating now. While there may be little things that come up with some apps, I've never not been able to use my phone.

I do have a little glitch on the iPad that I hope gets fixed. Couldn't mute the volume for some odd reason. It comes and goes and I did report it to Apple.
 
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I now wait 1 week before updating, even if minor point updates. Apple's QC isn't what it once was.
 
Years, and never.

Two words that don't fit in the context here

You are a fortunate unobservant user.

If bugs didn't exist, Updates wouldn't be issued (notwithstanding major new releases to appease Wall Street and shoehorn into new hardware releases)

IMO people would be fine with same iOS refined on new hardware. And release the new stuff when it's polished to a T. Instead of being beta testers every fall

10.5/12.9 were excellent examples of this. iOS 11 has been really
good on my 12.9 2017, but Shipping version iOS 10.3 was soooooo polished out the gate with those new hardware releases. I was impressed

Sorry, they do go together. I have stated in the past I’ve seen little things here and there on occasion. Maybe when I rotate my iPhone it takes longer to recognize. A piece of text is misaligned. There’s a slight stutter or pause when launching an App. These are not what I call “issues”, as I experience them in every single technology product I’ve ever used (my cars infotainment systems, TVs, cable boxes, digital cameras, iPhones, iPads, Macs, PCs - literally everything that has a processor and runs software has the occasional glitch).

What I haven’t seen is a failure of any of the Apps I rely on, loss of data or anything that affects the ability of me to use my device the way I always have. Those are what I’d consider “issues” as they detract greatly from how your device operates.

What I find funny is a bug that affects a small number of users, yet almost everyone here at MR claims to have seen it. Statistically that’s just not possible. However, me claiming I haven’t had any issues is absolutely believable because I’m in the majority of satisfied iOS users, not the vocal minority claims by their devices are “completely unusable”.
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And they are fortunate unobservant users as aforementioned.

Absolutely false.
 
Sorry Apple, but during the HomePod delay I bought a few Google Home Minis. My smart home is no longer in your hands.
 
IMO, that’s a position most long-term users will eventually find themselves in.

How high they jump on the cross when it happens is entirely up to them.

Not sure I agree tho/ understand ur second part.

At what point did I become a Long term iOS user? Been using since the OG in 2007 and I have a 7+ on 10 still and had anX on 11.

Obvious regressive design and functional choices on 11. I tried 11 on 8 for a few days too. Same observation.


Sorry, they do go together. I have stated in the past I’ve seen little things here and there on occasion. Maybe when I rotate my iPhone it takes longer to recognize. A piece of text is misaligned. There’s a slight stutter or pause when launching an App. These are not what I call “issues”, as I experience them in every single technology product I’ve ever used (my cars infotainment systems, TVs, cable boxes, digital cameras, iPhones, iPads, Macs, PCs - literally everything that has a processor and runs software has the occasional glitch).

What I haven’t seen is a failure of any of the Apps I rely on, loss of data or anything that affects the ability of me to use my device the way I always have. Those are what I’d consider “issues” as they detract greatly from how your device operates.

What I find funny is a bug that affects a small number of users, yet almost everyone here at MR claims to have seen it. Statistically that’s just not possible. However, me claiming I haven’t had any issues is absolutely believable because I’m in the majority of satisfied iOS users, not the vocal minority claims by their devices are “completely unusable”.
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Absolutely false.

So just to clarify you've had perceptible hiccups with new releases, but nothing dealbreakingly so, and because all other technology has its fault, Apple gets a pass for increasingly sloppy releases that many are moaning about?

What about pepppe here like the user that said battery slashed in half from 11.1.2 to 11.2 and rolled back and he's happy again on his 6. While the window is open?

Would the gains from 11.1.2 to .2 bug fix and feature wise be worth it for halved battery life on a mobile device?

That lack of qualkty anecdotally left and right is just outright unacceptable to me. No other way to put it.

What about the friggin [?] iBug?
I wanted to throw my new X at a wall, even tho I *knew* it was software. I then wanted to throw my hunker 12.9 at the wall too that was fine on 11.0 but intro'd this lovely feature by 11.1
 
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Will this update fix where Apple throttles your processor so your battery will last longer so that when you’re in warranty you don’t have to bring the iPhone back for a battery fix?
 
After update still got "Loading accessories and scenes" can't use the home app when Im logged in my iCloud account this problem since iOS 10 I can't use Home app at all....
 
Will this update fix where Apple throttles your processor so your battery will last longer so that when you’re in warranty you don’t have to bring the iPhone back for a battery fix?

"Fix" :D
Fix what? Something they implemented consciously and are now caught with their pants down about?

Updates can't transcend underlying intentions and morals or lack thereof

Unless the backlash is strong enough.

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When did apple start implementing this "feature" in iOS out of curiosity?
 
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You mean "Patch Tuesday", and it's monthly. If we are going to try to poke at things let's at least try to base them on reality.
Are we talking about Apple or Microsoft? Apple has seemed to follow their strategy, release have baked releases and have a fix for it in a month. Repeat every month. The problem is a lot of users (the ones who don’t visit these forums, don’t update right away). This is because 1. they come to realize (especially with the update to iOS11, that updates can turn their iPhone into bricks, and 2. updates have become so frequent, users have become disinterested in them).
 
I’d be alright with so many updates if they could make the process faster. Sure would be nice if it didn’t take 10+ minutes to install an update on my iPhone X.
 
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Are we talking about Apple or Microsoft?
The comment you made talked about Microsoft, that is the comment that I replied to and quoted, thus the context of that particular exchange would be Microsoft.
 
I’d be alright with so many updates if they could make the process faster. Sure would be nice if it didn’t take 10+ minutes to install an update on my iPhone X.
I'd be alright with so many updates if they would just let me choose to use my own cellular data to download the update, and not have to wait until I can connect to secure Wi-Fi.
 
::sigh::

Another X.X.1 update. Apple really needs to overhaul their system update settings. They allow you to automatically update tvOS, why can't they allow that for iOS? Let us choose to auto update when connected to WiFi, and at a specified hour (like, during the night when you're asleep). I agree with others, it's getting tedious and annoying with all these X.X.1 updates, especially if they don't even relate to you (I don't use Home Sharing).
 
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