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Apple Releases iOS 11.2 With Apple Pay Cash, Faster 7.5W Wireless Charging, Date Bug Fix and More [Updated]
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Somebody in German Apfeltalk.de found the weird reason:
It‘s your (and mine) case, which contains magnets like Kavaji.
Apple changed something how they focus their lenses and this causes the magnets to distract as soon as the changes take place with 11.2.
Get the phone rid of the case (and the magnet) and all will be fine again.
Except that you have no case any longer :/
Spread the word...
Might be I don't know. I do know that if quality is not important to the CEO, its not important to anyone else. Whoever is in charge of software is being tasked with a certain set of priorities from the CEO, today we know those priorities are "ship it" regardless of the problems. Cook either does not understand, does not listen, or does not care.
"Whoever is in charge of software is being tasked with a certain set of priorities from the CEO, today we know those priorities are "ship it" regardless of the problems."
We know? Really? Speaking for everyone now? That is just your assertion and guess.
"Might be I don't know."
That's much better. You don't know...
It would certainly be the case for the Senior Vice President of Software Engineering, whose responsibility that directly falls under.
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The point precisely is that people pay Apple to make these sort of decisions for them. That’s why ios doesn’t come with a million different toggles to let you customise every single aspect of the operating system.
People don't seem to realize that simplicity is far harder than complexity. It's easy to add in a million buttons, toggles, switches, and features. What's hard is doing that in a dead-simple manner that is logical, coherent, and easy to use.
My guess is that Apple looked at why its users typically turn off WiFi and Bluetooth, and decided this current implementation could offer the best of both worlds - the advantages of disabling WiFi / Bluetooth (to disconnect from said devices) without the drawbacks (loss of features such as airdrop).
Sort of a best of both worlds scenario.
so who should we sue, Apple or AT&T for knowing that the iPhone 6 is not really failing but that a date bug caused your phone to reset every 5-10 seconds. What a great way to sell thousands...maybe millions of new iPhone 8s or X's......And are you saying that the clerk at the AT&T store didn't know what was causing my problem on 3 DEC. so maybe this will work along with the lawsuit.....switch over to Verizon and when the new phones I got (8's) die go with the Android.
You are right. I just set it up.
For anyone needing help with it. Go here:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207933
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Sure; as soon as I receive $500 from you.
[doublepost=1512450406][/doublepost]or if you didn't see this in time and went and traded in your 6 because you thought it was failing....when you could have updated the 11.2...who knew?This is priceless.
Right at the time IOS devices start crashing.
pacific time.
Ignorance is bliss refers to newer Apple users who never experienced what Apple used to represent. Tim Cook is just like Scully. I know i lived through it and saw it first hand. Has Apple released any products like when Steve was running the company? Or even close. If it wasn’t for Steve you would’t be enjoying your Apple products you love some much. How do you think they got that way? Tim Cook? Sorry to tell you the Mac OS used to be better as was iOS. Steve was one of the greatest inventors of the century. Tim Cook is a numbers guy trying to steer a ship he did not build.
Jony Ive is Apples only saving grace right now. He should be running the company, not tim.
I like Apple too. I have had just about computer and phone and tablet they ever made. I currently own a X, a ipad pro, and a apple watch. I gave up my macs because sadly Microsoft products allows my company to be more productive and they in my opinion are just better products. And this is from a person who used to hate Microsoft. I wouldn’t dream of having anything from them. Well i do and i love them. The Surface studio is what a imac should be. Same goes for their surfacebooks. The surface pro not so much.
Tim Cook doesn’t have the keen eye for where technology is going. Nor does he have a feel of what consumers really want. Jony Ive does. He has a similar outlook of where technology is headed like steve and you can see that in the iphone X.
At this point Apple will not fall like in the past but i can see a day where there innovation is gone, there market share decreases and their mindshare decreases. And more importantly the product quality decreases. You are starting to see that now. They will be just another Samsung, LG, etc. There will be nothing special to differentiate them from any other company. Same thing happened in before the first time Steve left. You need a visionary to run Apple. Tim Cook is not that man.
I see you are a new Apple convert, good for you. But some of us have been Apple customers for decades and have a sort of partnership so to speak and generally have a mental investment in the company. Those that are new such as yourself if that is indeed the case will never understand. So forgive some of us if we give a damn. It’s not a Steve Job disiples thing. Its a quality thing. New customers have never experienced the kind of quality Apple used to put out and the innovation that was almost a right of passage for them. Sadly they will most likely never see it again.
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Its in the execution of how you implement software features, makes no difference if its more of less. Has to do with less demanding standards.
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner folks.
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Quite a subjective post. I don't know about you, but I don't care what apple did for "you" yesterday. I care what apple can do for me today. Whether or not you believe Tim Cook is the right CEO, he was handpicked by Jobs, apple has grown under his leadership. Seems like customers like the products and the board will probably keep him around until he can no longer do his job effectively. Whether or not apple fails in the future remains to be seen. The aphorism, "what goes up must come down" seems to apply in life and not specifically to apple, which was my prior commentary.
Different people are needed at different points in a company history. Jobs was right for his era, but he would have been a disaster for the Cook era. Cook is amazing, and has been responsible for most of the achievements of Apple, but not the initial innovation and concept that Jobs provided. Cook has refined the culture and expanded it, and in my opinion a great job as CEO of Apple.
Being able to design good products does not equate having the business acumen to manage a huge company.
And they have sold in extremely pathetic quantities. Not surprising why Apple is going down that route. There just isn't much demand for them. Maybe it might have made sense back when Apple was a much smaller company catering to a more niche crowd, but certainly not for the Apple of today who caters to the mass market.
You are likely right in that Tim Cook does not oversee Apple's product strategy. Tim Cook is largely responsible for looking after Apple's day-to-day operations. Product strategy most likely falls to Apple designers, who include Jony Ive, Richard Howarth, and Apple's industrial design team.
I don't think there is a problem with this. If anything, it frees up the Apple design team from having to manage the company, leaving them free to focus on product design. They have just their own vision of where to bring the Mac, which as it seems, isn't shared by many Mac enthusiasts here.
Even if Tim Cook had an eye for technology, the outcome may still be the same. Apple still may not be creating products that you want.
I think there is a tendency for people to give companies still being run by the original founders the benefit of a doubt, while Apple has a much higher bar to jump over, because their every move is being compared to an idealised projection of what Steve Jobs might have done in a similar situation. Never mind that we have no way of predicting the future, and people are assuming that Steve Jobs would somehow have magically gotten everything right from the get go (he didn't; Apple also had its fair share of missteps under his tenure).
Few have made much out of Mark Zuckerberg's growing list of bad product bets and lack of vision. Zuckerberg's fascination with VR is at worst merely laughed off. Larry Page's and Sergey Brin's lack of focus are widely known and mentioned, but rarely questioned in terms of Alphabet's grand vision. Jeff Bezos can do no wrong, despite plenty of examples of Amazon making mistakes. Tesla has become all about Elon Musk's vision with few discussing the company's strategic blunders and holes (huge production backlogs and the potential running out of cash). Meanwhile, each step Tim Cook and Jony Ive take is questioned more than the previous step.
The only difference between these companies: Facebook, Alphabet, Amazon, and Tesla are led by founders, while Apple isn't.
Let me propose an alternative theory.
Times change, and companies too change in keeping with the times. Apple was the right company for you back then, and is no longer the ideal product fit for you because Apple has changed in keeping with the times, while your computing needs haven't.
Just like how Apple products are the ideal fit for me right now, and it is well possible that this may cease to be the case years down the road.
It's nothing to do with quality, and more to do with your vision of computing no longer being in sync with Apple's. It's nobody's fault. Times have changed, Apple too has changed in keeping with those times, and that's just the way she goes.
Never seen an iOS with this many small bugs. Nothing really works.
About 15% of all buttons aren't performing their intrinsic actions.
The "Phoning" Experience has become quite awkward and the iPhone is a phone but it is not really good at it.
Voicemails are coming days later and re appearing after being deleted.
This iOS has taken control over its creators and not the other way around
Here's an idea I haven't seen anyone use. What if people just stopped upgrading until the last version of a particular major iOS release? That way, you still get to upgrade, but every time you do, it's solid and stable. Seems logical to me.
We do know the decision about when to ship software products comes from marketing or the CEO, not the Senior Vice President of Software Engineering. That is how Apple operates and I don't think any sane person would dispute it.
Possible, but it also means that you give up all the benefits from updating to the latest software. I’ll take my chances. That’s why you will never hear me complain about the bugs here. I knew what I was getting myself into.
Then maybe you can provide some other insight regarding why Apple is all over the place with software features and quality, other than "that's just the way software is developed." I've developed software all my life and I know differently.
That would be due to direction, management, and responsibility of the SVP of Software Engineering.
Totally correct.
I wish I had that discipline over myself. I don't and Apple and most other software vendors know that.
But - I can tell you this - one more iOS 11 and I am taking the route that you suggest. !
