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You don’t put in a passcode every time you pick something up. It’s for when you set up a new device or log into iCloud.com and that’s it. Once a device is set up, I have never had to put in a 2nd factor.

The only time I regularly get a 2FA prompt is when signing into iCloud.com.

As for you whining about being secure, perhaps you should switch to green bubbles, it sounds more your speed.

You'll probably be the first one to scream bloody murder claiming Apple has been hacked when in reality you use the same password across multiple sites and engage in questionable security practices.
So what happens if you loose your device or want to remote lock or erase it or even find my phone or locate it in the couch cushion with the sound option and only can use iCloud.com?
 
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I did use it for awhile but ultimately it slows me down and is more of a hassle then having no passcode or touchid or lock screen. I am not confusing 2FA with a lock screen, Apple has made either touchid or passcode a requirement for 2FA which causes me to have to hassle around with the lock screen. A requires B causes C.

Security sure does suck.
 
So what happens if you loose your device or want to remote lock or erase it or even find my phone or locate it in the couch cushion with the sound option and only can use iCloud.com?

You put in a cell number (or land line) as a back up. When you get a new cell phone, you’re probably going to get the same number. Also, you can get on iCloud.com and use find my iPhone WITHOUT 2 step authentication. That part of iCloud.com you can access.

Once a passcode is enabled it will demand it every time the device goes to the lock screen which happens whenever it goes to sleep. It also requires it every time the device is powered on.

Because I don't want to hassle with it every time I turn the thing on or wake it up.

Hassle? What hassle? Seriously? I pick up my phone, and it’s unlocked the second I touch the home button. No. Hassle. At. All.


I have 2 step authentication on, and for fun I turned off my passcode for my phone, and it worked fine.
iOS 11.4 is supported on the iPod touch (6th gen), iPad Air, and iPad mini 2, all of which do not have Touch ID or Face ID.
I forgot about those.
 
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Hassle? What hassle? Seriously? I pick up my phone, and it’s unlocked the second I touch the home button. No. Hassle. At. All.

Im not using a phone, I am using the iPad mini and iPod Touch both which don't open so fast with touch id. There is a delay I just don't like and having to put the trained finger in the same place etc. For me it's more of a hassle going through that multi-second process over just having passcode and touchid turned off.
 
I really would like option to either “archive” or “delete”. There are some threads I want to keep but not to see when I go into messages. Similar to WhatsApp

on macOS iMessages currently (before it too gets updated to have iMessages in the Cloud) you can do this.
there are two options: Close the Conversation, or, Delete the Conversation.

from all comments I have seen about iMessages in the Cloud, it does not appear that this option is preserved in iMessages in the Cloud.

thats unfortunate.
 
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Will be nice to free up a few gigs and not have my conversations deleted so quickly. Also it’s supposd to sync better across devices which will be nice!
 
So far, iCloud Messages is actually worse for me. I don’t delete any messages (actually had never considered that anybody did until reading this thread), and using macOS to read messages results in them not updating as read very quickly on iOS devices.

Hopefully this improves.
 
So far, iCloud Messages is actually worse for me. I don’t delete any messages (actually had never considered that anybody did until reading this thread), and using macOS to read messages results in them not updating as read very quickly on iOS devices.
I’m waiting to flip the switch on this until macOS gets Messages in iCloud.
 



Apple today released iOS 11.4, the fourteenth update to the iOS 11 operating system that was first introduced last September. iOS 11.4 comes a month after the release of iOS 11.3.1, an update that introduced a bug fix for a display repair issue.

iOS 11.4 is available on all eligible devices over-the-air in the Settings app. To access the update, go to Settings --> General --> Software Update. Eligible devices include the iPhone 5s and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPad Air and later, and the 6th-generation iPod touch.


iOS 11.4 is an audio-focused update, introducing support for multi-room audio through a new protocol that supports multi-room audio on all AirPlay 2 enabled devices.

Right now, AirPlay 2-compatible devices include the Apple TV and the HomePod, but in the future, AirPlay 2 will be available on third-party speakers from manufacturers like Bang & Olufsen, Bluesound, Bose, Bowers & Wilkins, Denon, Libratone, Marantz, Marshall, Naim, Pioneer and Sonos.

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With AirPlay 2, you can play the same song on multiple speakers throughout the house, move music from one room to another, or play music in any room from any room using an iOS device, HomePod, Apple TV, or Siri voice commands. AirPlay 2 devices are now displayed in the Apple Home app as AirPlay 2 is integrated with HomeKit.

Using AirPlay 2, you can control where music is playing through the Control Center or within apps on an iOS device or ask Siri to play music in any room (or multiple rooms) with an AirPlay 2-enabled device.

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HomePod is also gaining support for stereo pairing, which is designed to let two HomePods work in unison.

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The iOS 11.4 update also introduces Messages in iCloud, a feature that has been in the works for several months and was first promised as an iOS 11 feature in June of 2017. Messages in iCloud is designed to store your iMessages in iCloud rather than on each individual device, allowing for improved syncing capabilities.

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At the current time, incoming iMessages are sent to all of the devices where you're signed in to your Apple ID, but there is no true cross-device syncing. Messages in iCloud will let you download all of your iMessages on new devices, and a message deleted on one device will remove it from all devices, which is not the case right now.

Older messages and attachments are also stored in iCloud rather than on device, saving valuable storage space across all of your Macs, iPhones, and iPads.

For the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, there is a new (PRODUCT)RED wallpaper available, which is not available on iPhone X, and in betas, the iOS 11.4 update included USB Restricted Mode, which may have made it into release.

USB Restricted Mode introduces a week-long expiration date on access to the Lightning port on iOS devices if your phone has not been unlocked, a feature that limits law enforcement access to the iPhone and the iPad using tools like the GrayKey box.

In addition to these features, iOS 11.4 also includes several bug fixes, as outlined in Apple's release notes. Full release notes are below:
iOS 11.4 may be one of the final updates to the iOS 11 operating system, which will be followed by iOS 12. Apple will unveil iOS 12 at the Worldwide Developers Conference next week.

Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 11.4 With Messages in iCloud and AirPlay 2
[doublepost=1527811091][/doublepost]This is getting tiresome. The implication of feature naming versus what Apple delivers.

FILES: Expectation was an actual file system for IOS. What was delivered was a weak app that essentially provided a menu system to some apps via their associated files. Third-party apps plus workarounds needed for any kind of usefulness.

And now, MESSAGES IN ICLOUD: Expectation was access to messages and the ability to send messages via iCloud.com. This is low hanging fruit. What was delivered wasn’t message in iClound, but instead something entirely different, background syncing messages across all devices using using the cloud. And that’s a feature we should have had five years ago.

Sigh...
 
FILES: Expectation was an actual file system for IOS.

Yours, maybe. Certainly not most other people. Certainly Apple never said so. I'd like to slap most people that parrot the "actual file system" line like they think it means something other than what it does.

And now, MESSAGES IN ICLOUD: Expectation was access to messages and the ability to send messages via iCloud.com.

When did Apple *ever* say this? Link, please. I think if they did this, I'd just disable iMessage and move on. Can you imagine the abuses of such a gateway?
 
Yours, maybe. Certainly not most other people. Certainly Apple never said so. I'd like to slap most people that parrot the "actual file system" line like they think it means something other than what it does.



When did Apple *ever* say this? Link, please. I think if they did this, I'd just disable iMessage and move on. Can you imagine the abuses of such a gateway?
Abuses?
 
I'd like to have both my Macs, my AppleTV, and each iPhone/iPad on my home network all play the same song simultaneously.

I've worked out there's no possibility of that with Airplay 2. Any other options?
 
The "enable messages in iCloud" option in the Messages app on MacOS 10.13.5 doesn't seem to exist. Is there something wrong or is this just not yet enabled on the Mac like all the Mac blogs say?
 
[doublepost=1527811091][/doublepost]This is getting tiresome. The implication of feature naming versus what Apple delivers.

FILES: Expectation was an actual file system for IOS. What was delivered was a weak app that essentially provided a menu system to some apps via their associated files. Third-party apps plus workarounds needed for any kind of usefulness.

And now, MESSAGES IN ICLOUD: Expectation was access to messages and the ability to send messages via iCloud.com. This is low hanging fruit. What was delivered wasn’t message in iClound, but instead something entirely different, background syncing messages across all devices using using the cloud. And that’s a feature we should have had five years ago.

Sigh...

You having incorrect expectations is not on Apple at all.
 
The "enable messages in iCloud" option in the Messages app on MacOS 10.13.5 doesn't seem to exist. Is there something wrong or is this just not yet enabled on the Mac like all the Mac blogs say?
It is in iMessage preferences, not System Preferences.
 
It is in iMessage preferences, not System Preferences.
Not that I can see. When I open the Messages app and go to Accounts the only options I see are "Enable this account" and "You can be reached for messages at". There is no "Enable messages in iCloud" option.
 
Not that I can see. When I open the Messages app and go to Accounts the only options I see are "Enable this account" and "You can be reached for messages at". There is no "Enable messages in iCloud" option.
You also need the latest version of macOS. Released in the past few days.
 
Being serious now....is it finally safe to update an iPhone 7 and 7 Plus to iOS 11?

Both are still on iOS 10 (10.3.3 and 10.3.2 respectively). Battery life is absolutely great and there are no broken microphones or throttled processors.

Any advice from 7 & 7 Plus owners will be much appreciated.
 
My wife has an iPhone 7. Ever since she upgraded to 11.3.1 her mic stopped working to the point where the voice recorder button is greyed out in the native app. She cant make phone calls unless the phone is paired to a bluetooth mic.

I too have an iPhone 7. I'm still on 11.3 and dont dare to upgrade
Take her phone into apple, other people were saying they replace them right then and there.
 
How come on my phone iMessage only uses around 400mb of data but when syncing to cloud it uses almost 3gig of my cloud space?? Anyone else find this??
 
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