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I’ve forced-restarted the phone multiple times. In fact, I typically force-restart every night after I check for app updates and perform the updates. I’ve been doing this for years.

Force restarting (aka hard reset) your phone when it’s not frozen is not a good idea as it doesn’t allow the phone to finish writing any data to the SSD like it does when powering down normally. That can cause data corruption which can end up being backed up and restored to a new phone.

It’s the same reason you don’t shutdown a computer by just powering it off. It may work fine most of the time, but eventually you’ll have problems. I’d recommend doing a OS reinstall/restore from a computer.
 
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Has it been discussed anywhere here before I reported it? If so, it was not discussed thoroughly enough for me to see it before it caused a catastrophic problem.
We can keep hand-waving the issue and make excuses just because there are alternative methods of installation, but I think that a critical piece of software from the trillion dollar tech company whose tagline is “it just works” should, well… work. Not brick devices when one attempts to do the one thing it is designed to do.

If I’m not mistaken, iTunes cannot be used anymore, I was instructed that one MUST switch to Apple Devices as iTunes is no longer compatible with any version of iOS 18. If that’s not the case, then that’s further misinformation that was spread here on MacRumors, which seems to be a running theme these days.


I wouldn’t mind switching back to iTunes if that were possible, it never bricked any of my devices in any of the years I’ve been using it. But so far nobody on MacRumors has demonstrated that either piece of software works for iOS 18+ installations.
Apple doesn't mention any support loss for iTunes for Macs running Mojave or earlier.
 
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👉🏻 My camera app crashes every time (the app windows turns black). It did this with iOS 18.0 and it still occurs with the latest update (18.0.1). It doesn’t matter if I use the new Camera Control or not.

I have the iPhone 16 Pro Max (upgraded from the 15 Pro Max). I’ve forced-restarted the phone multiple times. In fact, I typically force-restart every night after I check for app updates and perform the updates. I’ve been doing this for years.
My camera is still crashing after the 18.0.1 update. Blank screen, freezes then crashes and does so every time until I reboot the phone. 16 pro
 
Force restarting (aka hard reset) your phone when it’s not frozen is not a good idea as it doesn’t allow the phone to finish writing any data to the SSD like it does when powering down normally. That can cause data corruption which can end up being backed up and restored to a new phone.

It’s the same reason you don’t shutdown a computer by just powering it off. It may work fine most of the time, but eventually you’ll have problems. I’d recommend doing a OS reinstall/restore from a computer.
Shouldn't be a big issue with APFS tbf.
 
APFS may be more robust, but it isn’t some kind of magic file system. It still can’t write data if you just force reboot the phone.
It's pretty hard to accidentally corrupt the file system or even single files thanks to copy-on-write. Incomplete writes would just be dropped upon reboot. So unless you force restart the device while taking photos or something, it's highly unlikely you'll corrupt any actual data that's not a temporary file or similar. It's not like apps migrate to a new database version while you're staring at the home screen on iOS.

That being said, it's pretty useless to (force) restart your iPhone every night. But rarely (if ever) dangerous.
 
👉🏻 My camera app crashes every time (the app windows turns black). It did this with iOS 18.0 and it still occurs with the latest update (18.0.1). It doesn’t matter if I use the new Camera Control or not.

I have the iPhone 16 Pro Max (upgraded from the 15 Pro Max). I’ve forced-restarted the phone multiple times. In fact, I typically force-restart every night after I check for app updates and perform the updates. I’ve been doing this for years.
I have the 16 pro max as well! When your screen is a dim as it can go when looking at something that’s grey do you get weird lines going across the middle of your screen? Usually this happnes when looking at the App Store notification settings in night mode. This happens in a lot of apps that have a grey background. I’m wondering if you have the same issue. I think it might be a software bug because when swiping out of an app the bar moves down and doesn’t stay in the same place. When looking at the bar it looks as those that area of the screen is a little bit darker light wise or it’s a darker gray color that shows up! So figured if it was moving around on the screen it’s more a software issue then hardware issue. Don’t know if this makes sense or not but just wanted to see what your experience was!
 
Yeah I have tried removing all my find my devices but it didn’t change anything. I’ve put my phone in airplane mode, no difference, I’ve reset my phone, no difference. Its always the same two apps Home and Lock Screen and Find My. However, Home and Lock Screen is the big culprit. Even before iOS18, Find My would show as running but had little to no impact on idle battery drain. I’m at the point where I’m just going to give up and put my phone on the charger overnight. It appears Apple is more focused on pleasing shareholders with Apple Intelligence than it is with putting out a stable OS so there really isn’t much that can be done at this point other than hope they find their way back to being the customer focused company they used to be.
Yeah Home and lock screen seem to register a lot for me too but today I am at 100% battery and it shows 1 hr 57 min for home and lock. Supposedly that is whenever it wakes and any widgets or notifications etc you have that are on lock screen. But either way it doesnt seem to really be effecting battery life. Guess its something new in iOS 18 that its registering that usage. Perhaps turn off find my and remove all lock screen widgets and see if it makes a difference.
 
Yeah Home and lock screen seem to register a lot for me too but today I am at 100% battery and it shows 1 hr 57 min for home and lock. Supposedly that is whenever it wakes and any widgets or notifications etc you have that are on lock screen. But either way it doesnt seem to really be effecting battery life. Guess its something new in iOS 18 that its registering that usage. Perhaps turn off find my and remove all lock screen widgets and see if it makes a difference.
I’ll try that because I really liked having the notification pop up.
 
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Force restarting (aka hard reset) your phone when it’s not frozen is not a good idea as it doesn’t allow the phone to finish writing any data to the SSD like it does when powering down normally. That can cause data corruption which can end up being backed up and restored to a new phone.

It’s the same reason you don’t shutdown a computer by just powering it off. It may work fine most of the time, but eventually you’ll have problems. I’d recommend doing a OS reinstall/restore from a computer.

It's pretty hard to accidentally corrupt the file system or even single files thanks to copy-on-write. Incomplete writes would just be dropped upon reboot. So unless you force restart the device while taking photos or something, it's highly unlikely you'll corrupt any actual data that's not a temporary file or similar. It's not like apps migrate to a new database version while you're staring at the home screen on iOS.

That being said, it's pretty useless to (force) restart your iPhone every night. But rarely (if ever) dangerous.
Even Apple says the force should only be used as last resort when regular restart process wont work. So yeah its really not necessary as long as the device is responsive and certainly a normal restart would be the safer option.
 
Has it been discussed anywhere here before I reported it? If so, it was not discussed thoroughly enough for me to see it before it caused a catastrophic problem.
We can keep hand-waving the issue and make excuses just because there are alternative methods of installation, but I think that a critical piece of software from the trillion dollar tech company whose tagline is “it just works” should, well… work. Not brick devices when one attempts to do the one thing it is designed to do.

If I’m not mistaken, iTunes cannot be used anymore, I was instructed that one MUST switch to Apple Devices as iTunes is no longer compatible with any version of iOS 18. If that’s not the case, then that’s further misinformation that was spread here on MacRumors, which seems to be a running theme these days.


I wouldn’t mind switching back to iTunes if that were possible, it never bricked any of my devices in any of the years I’ve been using it. But so far nobody on MacRumors has demonstrated that either piece of software works for iOS 18+ installations.
Well I can't say for certain if it was before you mentioned it or not. However if you simply look at the reviews in the MS store you can get a sense for how bad it is. And I am not making excuses for it, just simply stating that there are WAY better options available that work fine other than is crappy piece of software. Just pointing out you have other options thats all. But certainly feel free to try and get this to work. I hope you are successful.

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