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People always complain and always will complain ...
If Apple don't release frequent updates, they are lazy .... if they release 3 updates in two months, their os is buggy ...

7.0.4 change log speaks about a FaceTime problem, and people here whine about animations ... :rolleyes:

iOS 7 is far from being perfect, but we have proofs they are working on it. And I really hope they are working on something more substantial than animations .... :eek:

I don't think people are complaining for no reasons....there should be a good amount of fixes per update....
 
Anybody think they'll ever restore the previous functionality back to the Music app?

I sent Apple numerous requests to do this... I ALWAYS had gone through my music by selecting the artist, then individual albums. Now you have to scroll through the albums song by song. I'm personally appalled that they haven't tried to appease both themselves and others who share my concern, by sampling enabling a setting to toggle on and off so people can choose how they want to browse their music. Likewise, I'd also like to be able to browse without the huge album art taking up unnecessary space.
 
Anybody think they'll ever restore the previous functionality back to the Music app?

I sent Apple numerous requests to do this... I ALWAYS had gone through my music by selecting the artist, then individual albums. Now you have to scroll through the albums song by song. I'm personally appalled that they haven't tried to appease both themselves and others who share my concern, by sampling enabling a setting to toggle on and off so people can choose how they want to browse their music. Likewise, I'd also like to be able to browse without the huge album art taking up unnecessary space.

I hadn't noticed this change until I read your comment, honestly I can't remember how it used to be. Personally, I like the way that as I scroll down for an artist it leaves an album cover at the top until I hit the next album where the next album cover "sticks" on the top.

An alternative approach would be to use the "Albums" view and search at the top for your artist. It then nicely groups every album for that artist and you can drill down from there like it sounds you used to do.
 
I don't think people are complaining for no reasons....there should be a good amount of fixes per update....
It depends on what the update is addressing--sometimes it's an important enough issue (on one lever or another) that an update for it needs to go out as soon as reasonable and it would be somewhat dangerous to throw in a bunch of other things with it that haven't yet fully been tested or might cause some potential issues.
 
Wish I could go back to iOS 1.0. Hated 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.

Hope this fixes the iPad Youtube bug. If you click the down arrow to open the comments section and scroll down like normal to read all the comments then let go to scroll down some more the entire comments section freezes.
 
What part of that do you find unhelpful? There is a step in the iDevice sync process (usually 7 of 7 if you're backing up) that begins with the display saying "Waiting for changes to be applied." That's the message Apple gives me, and it's at that step that it sits there for literally half an hour. If I had more information, I would supply it.

Oh it was more of a complaint in iTunes design, I completely know what you are going through.

In other words "I would love it if iTunes had more helpful information here"
 
It depends on what the update is addressing--sometimes it's an important enough issue (on one lever or another) that an update for it needs to go out as soon as reasonable and it would be somewhat dangerous to throw in a bunch of other things with it that haven't yet fully been tested or might cause some potential issues.

Correct.
I'm happy every time they release a fix, no matter if there still are unresolved bugs.
I dont care about animations or music app poorly designed (it works for my needs. Could be better, but at least it works), but I do care about security leaks to be fixed as soon as possible.
 
:mad:

iPad 3, 32 GB, WiFi

In iOS 6 I had my Bluetooth Setting turned OFF.

I upgrade to iOS 7, Apple changes my Bluetooth Setting to ON. I proceed to change it back to OFF.

I upgrade to iOS 7.0.2, Apple changes my Bluetooth Setting to ON. I proceed to change it back to OFF.

I upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, Apple changes my Bluetooth Setting to ON. I proceed to change it back to OFF.

I just now upgraded to iOS 7.0.4, Apple yet again changes my Bluetooth Setting to ON.

Why, oh why, are you changing my Settings, Apple?

:mad:

Then just keep turning it off. It turns in on by default because so many people use BT devices, earpieces, headsets, and AirDrop

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Wish I could go back to iOS 1.0. Hated 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.

Then I would stop using apple products if I were you.. either that or you are trolling because if you REALLY hated every ios version other than 1, you'd get a droid or Windows tablet. So I vote you are trolling

IOS 1 was revolutionary when it came out, but later IOS versions make ios 1 look like a piece of trash. I'm not very fond of the IOS7 look and feel. The trend of taking nice, 3d, colorful apps, and flatting them and making them less colorful is backwards. I fail to see how ios, windows 8, OS X, etc all these OS companies making "flat" "bland" UIs "forward and innovative"

IOS 7, newer versions of OSX, and Win 8, and even newer driod OSes look like something from Windows 3.x.. TERRIBLE

That's just me complaining about LOOKS. The functionality of the new OSes an all platforms are great!
 
The number of people that don't understand the term "bricking" is astounding. A bricked iPhone cannot be restored from backup.
 
I haven't read everything here, but has Apple finally addressed the issue where text messages on iPhone 4, 4S and 5 default send to "iMessage"? This makes them completely transparent to non-iPhones, with no mention on any error on either end.

And why has the "iPhone" option disappeared where one creates a contact card?
 
I haven't read everything here, but has Apple finally addressed the issue where text messages on iPhone 4, 4S and 5 default send to "iMessage"? This makes them completely transparent to non-iPhones, with no mention on any error on either end.

And why has the "iPhone" option disappeared where one creates a contact card?
What issue was that exactly? It seems iMessage is used when the phone number is associated with an Apple ID that has iMessage enabled, as has been the case before, and as should be the case.
 
It should't be the case. One phone number may not be always an iPhone. Before iOS 7, a message was always sent as dual SMS-iMessage, unless specifically told to only use iMessage through the "iPhone" moniker used when one registers a contact.

This issue is well-known, from what I could find in big G's search engine.
 
It should't be the case. One phone number may not be always an iPhone. Before iOS 7, a message was always sent as dual SMS-iMessage, unless specifically told to only use iMessage through the "iPhone" moniker used when one registers a contact.

This issue is well-known, from what I could find in big G's search engine.
The "iPhone" identifier never had anything to do with iMessage really. For iMessage, you select the phone number you want to message, Apple checks it against their servers, and if it's associated with an Apple ID that has it enabled for iMessage it will send your message to that number as an iMessage, and if it's not, it will stay as SMS.
 
The "iPhone" identifier never had anything to do with iMessage really. For iMessage, you select the phone number you want to message, Apple checks it against their servers, and if it's associated with an Apple ID that has it enabled for iMessage it will send your message to that number as an iMessage, and if it's not, it will stay as SMS.
It's a bit blurry in my mind, but I do remember than, when I switched to "iPhone" a guy's number, it ceased sending SMSes, but kept "Also send SMS" option.

In any case the default behaviour in iOS 7 is prone to transmission failures. This isn't a feature, it's a bug.
 
Is anyone getting an issue sending/receiving iMessages/text messages after upgrading to 7.0.4 ?

Go check iMessages in Settings > iMessages on all of your iOS devices, one of them is probably signed out. I went through this last night. I was missing messages and I saw that I didn't have my cell phone number on my iPads. So I went to my iPhone, saw that I wasn't signed in, sign in and then it started showing up everywhere.

In iPad Air with clean installation, and NO restore backup...
Resprings
Low Memory (a LOT of Low Memory)

Apple, this is a bull ****!

This is a Beta product with Beta software, Apple don't recognize...

Pretty much every product launch is a beta launch, there's never been a prefect software/hardware release. Apple sometimes get it right, sometime they don't and it takes time to fix it.

I'm sure Apple is fully aware of the low memory problem and will optimize iOS 7.1 release for iPad Air/mini soon to tackle it properly.

I'm disappointed that there's been so many updates to iOS 7 in a relatively short while, it makes me wonder if Apple's really testing their iOS prior to release, thoroughly. If this was about a sub $150 phone with a buggy OS it would be a completely different matter but Apple lovers are paying a huge premium in hopes of buying a reliable, solid product.

Frequent updates to maintain and improve security is a plus, frequent updates to fix bugs for high dollar products is a minus.

Android users also face their unique share of problems but most of them relate to user tampering (i.e. rooting/modding) the device to be used in an unintended manner so it's not so much the OS as it is about the user.

Why are you disappointed? Your logic makes absolutely no sense. You should be happy that they're fixing and improving bugs as quickly as they can. Apple doesn't have to do this and they could've just leave it alone until iOS 8 comes out.

There's never going to be a hardware without any software updates required to make it perform better.

Even PS4/XBOX are being releasing with mandated software update required on the FIRST DAY. Heck, even Telsa cars are getting software updates over time and they cost over 70K.

Hardware is usually finished first but the software is going to take time to get it right, it's never going to be perfect on day one.

Note, that doesn't excuse anybody for being sloppy but it's just the nature of software development and no, no amount of money and QA processes would ever prevent this.
 
smooth update

I just updated my 16GB 5s to 7.0.4, took about 4 minutes. I've played with the phone for a while now and can't find any changes, either positive or negative. But then, my 5s was working fine to begin with i.e. fingerprint recognition always lightning fast, no problems with Facetime, etc. Hope things go smoothly for the rest of you.
 
Plugged into power, started update.
Phone froze about one eighth into the update. :confused:
Forced power off, had to restore from iTunes local backup.
Only a month old.
No more updates without an immediate backup for me. ;)

Is it working now? Then it was not "bricked".
 
It's a bit blurry in my mind, but I do remember than, when I switched to "iPhone" a guy's number, it ceased sending SMSes, but kept "Also send SMS" option.

In any case the default behaviour in iOS 7 is prone to transmission failures. This isn't a feature, it's a bug.

Prone to transmission failure ? If it can't be transmitted as iMessage, the iPhone try to send it as SMS, so I don't understand your point
 
Prone to transmission failure ? If it can't be transmitted as iMessage, the iPhone try to send it as SMS, so I don't understand your point
Precisely, it won't. Tested with both iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 along with my phone in the same room. No automatic retransmission was done.
 
Precisely, it won't. Tested with both iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 along with my phone in the same room. No automatic retransmission was done.
is the setting to send as SMS (on failure) enabled?
 
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