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I have had my keyboard disappear multiple times in mail and iMessage and the only way to get it back to type a message is to close the app and start it again. This is in 8.0.2
 
Personally, I am loving iOS 8 on my iPhone 6!! Love the messaging feature whereby you can reply to a message without leaving an app - bloody brilliant!

One feature that I also love, is the ability to reply to messages from the lockscreen, without actually having to unlock your phone and go into the app itself to reply.

Also, again with messages, when you have a notification of a message on your lockscreen and you then clear it from the lockscreen, later, when you next go into the messages app, the message has been marked as 'read' , i.e. it doesn't display that blue dot which symbolizes it is a new message. This is great as before, when you cleared the message from your lockscreen, you also had to go to the messages app to read it there as well - it was like you were being notified about it twice! Glad this has now been sorted!

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I guess that's the main difference. You don't use it all the time heavily, while i do. So i definitely notice lags and stutters a lot more than you do. I don't play games on it so i can't comment on that, but id assume it works fine. Its just the basic operations like closing apps, switching betweem apps with app switcher stutters and lags. Especially when closing apps like safari to go to home screen, i notice this split second stutter, which leads to annoying animation, and its seriously annoying. It wasnt present on ios 7.1.2 on ipad mini Retina although it was for my ipad 3. Now it happens on ios 8 on my mini retina as well, and it happens very often. Now comsider how it would be on ipad 3 now. Its horrendus. Its annoying for me on mini retina too cause it happens very often. Openng app switcher is the same thing. When the animation doesn't stutter, it just comes uo with a second delay, which was instant on 7.1.2. And when the animation stutters, like after using safari for a while, it just doesn't have any animation, and jumps to the app switcher, cause it is laggy. I hope you know what i mean. I can definitely wait until apple makes it a lot better, like on 7.1.2, but I'm just really worried that they might not improve it that much or take like 6 months, just like they did for 7.1 from 7.0.

OK, Just to follow up. I got a chance to use it a bit this weekend and I have to go back a bit on my earlier statement. I DID notice some lag on it. It's still VERY use-able so I don't feel the need to try and revert back, but no, it's not as smooth as earlier versions. I guess the 3 just isn't really cut out for iOS8 yet :).

Here's where I noticed lag on mine:

The transitions between screens on swipe aren't completely smooth. I need to look for it, but it's there.

In Safari, when I click on a link (to open in a new tab) it does seem to pause before the notification to open in new tab pops up.

Also in Safari, occasionally it will take 2-3 seconds to focus on the address bar when I click.

Sometimes when I click the home button from an app, it seems to think I double clicked and it brings up the "Multi-task" app switcher screen.

So far these are the only things I've noticed. Most of the lag so far is in Safari. Once all other apps are open, they run fine. Haven't had any more app crashes, or experienced anything within the apps themselves. Everything else works fine, all apps work so far, and again... it hasn't crippled my iPad, and its still completely use-able... but i was mistaken earlier when I said I had no lag. Maybe they'll tweak it in a future release, or maybe its tame to sell my 3 on ebay and buy a new one (Always looking for an excuse to buy new electronics) ;)
 
I guess that's the main difference. You don't use it all the time heavily, while i do. So i definitely notice lags and stutters a lot more than you do. I don't play games on it so i can't comment on that, but id assume it works fine. Its just the basic operations like closing apps, switching betweem apps with app switcher stutters and lags. Especially when closing apps like safari to go to home screen, i notice this split second stutter, which leads to annoying animation, and its seriously annoying. It wasnt present on ios 7.1.2 on ipad mini Retina although it was for my ipad 3. Now it happens on ios 8 on my mini retina as well, and it happens very often. Now comsider how it would be on ipad 3 now. Its horrendus. Its annoying for me on mini retina too cause it happens very often. Openng app switcher is the same thing. When the animation doesn't stutter, it just comes uo with a second delay, which was instant on 7.1.2. And when the animation stutters, like after using safari for a while, it just doesn't have any animation, and jumps to the app switcher, cause it is laggy. I hope you know what i mean. I can definitely wait until apple makes it a lot better, like on 7.1.2, but I'm just really worried that they might not improve it that much or take like 6 months, just like they did for 7.1 from 7.0.

Yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one! That half second or second lag before it springs the app open NEVER used to be there! I downgraded back to 7.1.2 on my i5 because of it. But I was stupid and went back to 8.0.2 to check and see if it was fixed and it wasn't! I was about to re-downgrade and then they stopped signing 7.1.2!! Sucks! Yeah safari used to load pages up really fast now it stops and thinks about the page for about 2-3 seconds before showing anything loading up. I don't understand. And I'm really annoyed I can't go back to 7.1.2. I really hope we don't have to wait long for them to tune 8 back up. I think even the people on the 6 are having the same issues from what I've seen in various YouTube videos.
 
Lol. I haven't been there in a lonnnnng time. Not since Ben sold it and it went corporate and all the politics ensued. How you been?

Yeah me either, same reasons. Miss that place. I've been good, seems you're still kicking. Feel free to drop me a note anytime.
 
The 6 overheats in Safari and YouTube which seriously drains the battery quickly. There are a lot of little quirks in 8.0.2, that will need to be addressed. Here we go down this road again. Frankly, with unusual battery drain and heated, slow performance issues, I feel I've gone back in time 10 years to the original iPhone. I really wanted to be delighted with this 6. I did. I never had a 5. Instead I'm right back to hoping and praying for the same updates/fixes I needed 10 years ago.
 
Did you actually read the thread? Problem like many of these things is between the keyboard and the chair.

So many drama queens on these boards and so much misinformation.

Did u actually know what i was talking about before replying ?
 
The reason is: If you took on unencrypted backup on your Mac, then someone could steal your Mac, buy a new iPhone, and restore the unencrypted backup to their iPhone. So Apple puts _most_ things into unencrypted backups (after all, that's why you made a backup) but leaves the real critical stuff out, like passwords and health information. On the plus side, a thief can't restore your passwords and health information. On the negative side, you can't restore your passwords and health information.

Yes, encrypted backups are the way to go.

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Maybe he lent the iPhone to his pet elephant?

Yeah I understand why, I've no idea why I didn't think about it before, very obvious really.
 
There's actually a rule that third party developers can't store HealthKit data on iCloud either. I am guessing apple doesn't want someone starting a *****torm by claiming apple can access all your private health data. Of course encrypting it with a key unknown to Apple would solve this, but the paranoid idiots who post here would still accuse Apple of secretly having the key (see other threads).

I wrote my own app to backup and restore HealthKit data I care about, but Apple would never permit it in the App Store.

Have you since tested to see if its now included in iCloud backup?
 
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