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Nothing. You're putting words in my mouth, probably because you didn't follow the thread. It has to do with Microsoft releasing stable software and minimizing update disruption, not Apple's constant panic to get software out before new hardware is put on sale, and then releasing tens of tiny updates to fix things that broke in the rush.
No words were put anywhere:
No, his complaint is about way too many releases. At least Microsoft limits themselves to once per month on a predictable schedule.
 
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TBH: Me thinks that the a vast majority of general public didn't really see an issue with the background refresh, and even members in this forum just jumped on the bandwagon with the torches out. Granted, many of the iOS "power user" base is likely to be here in this forum, so there was some legit complaints.

Glad to see they are addressing these issues in a timely manner
 
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Thank god. From now on I'll keep my devices on the last summer update until the next major release has been out for at least a couple of months and most major issues have been ironed out.

That’s usually what I do. I’m not picking on Apple, as I’m very supportive of them, but some other updates have been unstable in terms of the iPhone, HomePod, etc. And I know they have been putting up patches relatively quickly, but I’d rather wait until short term issues can be resolved, and there’s not a _need_ for me to update right away. Personally, before any update, I tend to read comments from other users to see what their feedback is before I update.
 
Finally....weren't we supposed to start getting Delta updates as of iOS 5? None of these feel very delta-y.

You've been getting delta updates, absolutely. Haven't you noticed how quickly OS and app updates install these days? Some of those apps are a gigabyte in size, yet updates install in seconds... because it's only downloading the delta changes.
 
I can't even click on Software Update from the iPad, it just does nothing, have to update from the computer. Hope it fixes all these problems.
 
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Again, you didn't read and comprehend. Apple introduces late features, breaks stuff, tries to fix it in an emergency update, breaks more stuff, and repeats. Microsoft's process is far more stable, requiring none of these frequent emergency updates.
 
Finally....weren't we supposed to start getting Delta updates as of iOS 5? None of these feel very delta-y.

I think it's because the update process validates the integrity of every single system file. The downloads are relatively fast, it's the checking process that takes time.
 
The number of people who might jump on at the same time on an iOS update is quite a bit different than some app update.
Well there apps basically everyone and their dog are using, not to mention they have CDN servers to manage the pressure. How is this different? Software updates up to say 500 MB should be allowed on any connection given your phone has at least 50% charge and decent battery health. It’s not rocket science.
 
Microsoft has an OS for desktops, servers, and cloud and office suite with far more moving parts that interfaces with tens of thousands of pieces of third-party hardware and drivers. Microsoft maintains compatibility with programs written 30 years ago.

Apple has a handful of first-party phones that can't run software more than 4 years old.

The value proposition from Apple was to put up with more expensive hardware and breaking old programs for an overall better user experience. Was.

Talk about misdirection. Microsoft has bloated their OS by attempting to keep a bunch of obsolete software/hardware running (except when they discontinue support) and implements tons of driver patches, security updates to keep it that way, and it all runs on a configuration that was not available on mobile until a few years ago. Nothing wrong with that, if that's the way you want to go. But it is misleading to compare in the mobile market (which MS completely failed at) because of the rapid development of hardware over a short period of time (it is just recently that, ignoring thermal constraints, performance in the mobile market even comes close to performance on desktops/laptops/servers).

You seem to be implying that a stripped down version of the OS should run on the older, slower, smaller hardware that is missing components that are ubiquitous on new hardware (really good cameras, NFC, faster network speeds, 64-bit.......). Oh, didn't Windows ship with some stripped down versions to address smaller devices? Didn't go well.
 
This is exactly that. Before iOS 5 we had to download the entire OS each time a new version came out which nowadays is in the gigabytes range. Today were downloading a “piece” of the OS which in this case comes out to just about 100MB and we’re able to do this on the device wirelessly rather than plugging the device into a Windows or Mac machine to download and install the update as we used to before iOS 5.
Then perhaps it’s the install time that is causing the wait and not the download time 🤷‍♂️
 
You seem to be implying that a stripped down version of the OS should run on the older, slower, smaller hardware that is missing components that are ubiquitous on new hardware (really good cameras, NFC, faster network speeds, 64-bit.......).

You're getting two different things confused. It has nothing to do with mobile.

Microsoft at this point does have better software quality and update discipline, even as they have a far more complex ecosystem, literally the largest in the world.

Apple has a relatively tiny ecosystem, with first party hardware only, and can't manage not to require an emergency update every week because they broke a major system function.

As you said, iOS only compares to a severely stripped down Windows that doesn't run any apps.

Simple as that.
 
Your devices would update at nighttime (while you sleep) if you have automatic updates turned on, the devices are charging, and connected to WiFi. there's no waiting for you. No pity either. 🤣

Mine do not. I have Series 3-5 that all give a nice vibration in the morning when I put them on that the update was not installed. I have had to install it manually forever, despite automatic updates being enabled.
 
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Old way: internal testing reveals bugs which are prioritized by their impact on functionality and usability.

Modern way: bugs are prioritized about how many reports and votes they get from public beta testers

Apple's new social way: bugs and hardware issues are fixed when they get significant media attention
They’re all over these forums.
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Mine do not. I have Series 3-5 that all give a nice vibration in the morning when I put them on that the update was not installed. I have had to install it manually forever, despite automatic updates being enabled.
This is the issue I have with my iPad and phone. I’ll live, not a huge deal, but that’s why they have these forums
 
Have the bicycle gears in the Software Update app always been so...skewmorphic? That icon is actually shaded from top to bottom. Is iOS on github? Maybe Scott is in there tinkering. :)
 
Waaaait. So you’re claiming software should be released bug-free?
Did I? I am just saying that certain types of issues are so obvious that they should not be able to escape QA. This issue should have been flagged by the simplest testing. Did anyone at apple tried switching between two apps when testing the release candidate? Apparently not. Perhaps they do not think that this is something iPhone users might do.
 
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