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Apple Releases iOS and iPadOS 13.2.2 With Fix for Background Refresh Bug

Glad to see Tim and Craig are on a role releasing kwality softwear.. seriously the Chinese could probably copy iOS and do away with the bugs. Why release terrible software with major features like emoji and memoji every year and focus on releasing solid software? We don’t need or want Windows ME/Vista or OSX Lion here. I didn’t spend $1300 for an iPhone XS Max with horrendous software.
 
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ouimetnick said:
Glad to see Tim and Craig are on a role releasing kwality softwear.. seriously the Chinese could probably copy iOS and do away with the bugs. Why release terrible software with major features like emoji and memoji every year and focus on releasing solid software? We don’t need or want Windows ME/Vista or OSX Lion here. I didn’t spend $1300 for an iPhone XS Max with horrendous software.
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The Chinese have tried to copy iOS and while it looks like iOS, its garbage on the knockoff iPhones. The Chinese are only good copycats when you tell them EXACTLY STEP BY STEP how to do something. Which is why they are good at tasks such as building Apple's products to their spec. Left to their own devices Chinese quality control is beyond utter trash.

If companies didn't have tight quality control they'd say "Close enough, put in box".
 
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Dovydas said:
Well there apps basically everyone and their dog are using, not to mention they have CDN servers to manage the pressure. How is this different? Software updates up to say 500 MB should be allowed on any connection given your phone has at least 50% charge and decent battery health. It’s not rocket science.
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Part of it is about mobile providers, they don’t want to be overwhelmed by a lot of customers trying to download the same thing at the same time basically.
 
timeconsumer said:
Just out of curiosity does anybody have a list of how many updates iOS 13 has had so far? And how does this compare to say iOS 11?
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13.0, 9/19
13.1, 9/24
13.1.1, 9/27
13.1.2, 10/1
13.1.3, 10/16
13.2, 10/28
13.2.1, 10/30
13.2.2, 11/7
13.3, TBA

For iOS 11:
11.0, 9/19/16
11.0.1, 9/27/16
11.0.2, 10/3
11.0.3, 10/11
11.1, 10/31
11.1.1, 11/9
11.1.2, 11/16
11.2, 12/2
11.2.1, 12/13
11.2.2, 01/08
11.2.5, 01/23
11.2.6, 2/19
11.3, 3/29
11.3.1, 4/24
11.4, 5/29
11.4.1, 7/9
 
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konqerror said:
Again, you didn't read and comprehend. Apple introduces late features, breaks stuff, tries to fix it in an emergency update, breaks more stuff, and repeats. Microsoft's process is far more stable, requiring none of these frequent emergency updates.
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I read and understood it all, simply commented on the aspect that plays a difference. Seems like that part is certainly not being read or understood.
 
When my iPhone SE finished I went back to the Software Updates settings and the 'install update' was lit up (blue), even though everything said 13.2.2 was installed. I poked it. Now it is, allegedly, installing again. My 10.5" iPad just says the software is up to date and the page is blank, except for the 'turn on auto updates' item.

The SE finished kinda quickly, but I don't think the progress bar even went all of the way across while installing. Now it's normal. Just a little glitch.
 
konqerror said:
No, his complaint is about way too many releases. At least Microsoft limits themselves to once per month on a predictable schedule. How would you like it if your phone and desktop had to go down 30 minutes every day due to updates?

There's a disruptiveness factor too: see the complaints about Windows requiring a full OS upgrade every 6 months as well.

You're justifying releasing buggy software as long as they fix it later. We want things done right, or not shipped.
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No phone update takes 30 minutes. Nice try.
 
C DM said:
Part of it is about mobile providers, they don’t want to be overwhelmed by a lot of customers trying to download the same thing at the same time basically.
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But they are downloading a lot of the same thing at the same time. This is very poor excuse. Not to mention that very few people will want to download this on purpose most other people will get it overnight while they sleep.
 
Dovydas said:
But they are downloading a lot of the same thing at the same time. This is very poor excuse. Not to mention that very few people will want to download this on purpose most other people will get it overnight while they sleep.
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Just commenting on what has been the most likely ongoing reasoning behind it all based on many discussions about it over the years.
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XXPP said:
Because there is no any issue.
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What do you mean?
 
MauiPa said:
maybe it was something in the Amazon app that triggered the issue, or did you do an amazon search through a browser? This same scenario through Safari, did not cause me problems
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It was just an example, the issue was by no means limited to the Amazon app. The same kind of reloading issue was also very apparent in Safari, Email, AppStore, eBay, Twitter, LinkedIn and so on and so on.

The fact that Apple have resolved the background app closing issue validates what many of us were reporting on in these forums. Not that it needed validation, it was incredibly apparent and very easily reproduced.

I’m not by any means saying this affected every iOS 13 user in the world, Apple only knows how many would be affected. But there were certainly plenty of us here - and in other places, complaining about it.

And I suppose, now that the issue is resolved and acknowledged by Apple, it’s ok for me to now mention that I had an Apple engineer spend two days at my home monitoring the networks in relation to another issue, along with this problem.
 
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jonnyb098 said:
The Chinese have tried to copy iOS and while it looks like iOS, its garbage on the knockoff iPhones. The Chinese are only good copycats when you tell them EXACTLY STEP BY STEP how to do something. Which is why they are good at tasks such as building Apple's products to their spec. Left to their own devices Chinese quality control is beyond utter trash.

If companies didn't have tight quality control they'd say "Close enough, put in box".
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So basically what Apple does these days. How’s that butterfly keyboard, and the latest version of macOS? 🤷‍♂️
 
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konqerror said:
Microsoft has an OS for desktops, servers, and cloud and office suite with far more moving parts that interfaces with tens of thousands of pieces of third-party hardware and drivers. Microsoft maintains compatibility with programs written 30 years ago.

Apple has a handful of first-party phones that can't run software more than 4 years old.

The value proposition from Apple was to put up with more expensive hardware and breaking old programs for an overall better user experience. Was.
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Thank god Apple doesn't write their OS's to be backward compatible for 30 years. Or even 5 years. That comes with a huge price. Essentially a boat anchor that the OS had to drag around.
'And.... "Apple has a handful of first-party phones".... Thanks for the good laugh. Im having a bad day, needed a little pick up. :p
 
C DM said:
Just commenting on what has been the most likely ongoing reasoning behind it all based on many discussions about it over the years.
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What do you mean?
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Likely reason is that it’s simply a dinosaur from the past when it was actually relevant and it’s not anymore.
 
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