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No - part of the beauty of the iPod Touch is that it can be stored in one's pocket. As many in this forum have already mentioned, the size of this device may be it's bane. If people really want this technology, they will likely opt for an iPod touch. If they want to carry around something this size, they will likely want something more powerful, like a laptop.

or maybe an iMac and an iPad instead of a laptop?
or maybe an MBP and an iPad and no iphone?
or maybe an iPad and an iPhone and no computer at all!
 
Yes, netbooks are fine. For the 2% of the population that is willing to put up with their tradeoffs.

Apple doesn't care about netbooks, isn't trying to crush netbooks, they're trying to get the vast majority who will never, ever buy a netbook. Netbooks that are cheaper than $500 are either underpowered or "under-screened" for everything except... the things that this can do in a much better physical package.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbooks

The lightest 10-inch netbooks weight almost a pound more than this. Most weigh closer to, or more than two pounds more. That is huge for those of us who want our portable to actually be portable. Weight. Sucks. People hate weight.

All of your "no"s above are either things that the average person doesn't care about, or they are wrong (or not yet known). As others have pointed out, this is exactly the same chatter that greeted the launches of the iPod and iPhone, and--shockingly--the tiny nerd market that is willing to put up with a netbook (mostly as a badge of "cool") is an extraordinarily poor indicator of what most people actually want or need. No offense intended of course, but it's just the way it is.

This is the perfect travel computer, having carried a macbook and a eee PC around for half a year each, weight sucks as does a slow, cramped tiny screen.

this will be fast, connect fast, allow me to no just download the photos but actually see what they look like (zoom and all) and i am sure that blurb will make an app that let's you make and publish books. I bet blogging will be pleasurable on this, especially if there is a local storage option for the wordpress app etc. that upload when you have a connection. oh and the battery lasts forever compared to a net book.

So much hate on this message board, really, this is a pretty incredible device for a 1.0. macBook pros are going to go the way of the Mac Pro in 2 years i predict, only for pros who really need the power of a portable work station.
 
I'm not buying one.

I think it will sell well though, although i'm not completely convinced.

I have £1000 sitting in my bank account waiting to see what I will buy to compliment my 2008 Mac Pro and that thing will be a 13" MBP for sure now.

Not to nitpick, but it is "complement".

It is certainly a 'toy' device and not a tool as would have hoped for. The things that make this so (in my opinion) are:

- No accesable file system

...and that is relevant how? What exactly would you do with a filesystem?
If your applications can access the data they need to access, why would you even care how or where it is stored?
Palm OS never had a filesystem, yet it is (arguably) the most successful mobile device OS of all time. I use virtual Spotlight folders on my Mac - so in the end of the day I don't care where the physical file is stored.
Also, not to nitpick, but it is "accessible".

- No USB mass storage or printers etc

The status of printing is not known yet.
As for mass storage, camera connections are supported. This hints that MS is supported at least in some form or shape. Again, we will have to wait and see.

- Small amount of storage (64gb max)

- Not an HD display even (less than 720p)

64GB will fit a few Libraries of Congress.:D Yes, I would want more, too... But 64GB will fit my entire iTunes library of 8000+ tracks encoded at 320 kbps/256 kbps VBR, and all the TV episodes I bought over the years.

As for "HD"... iPad's display is 1024x768. That is more than 720 horizontal lines. Of course, a "HD" badge on anything is just a marketing gimmick.

- No ilife even, surely this should have been done before iwork?

Photos, check. iTunes, check. Do you really want to edit video on an ARM-based tablet optimized for long battery life? Or burn DVDs on it?

- Too small.

- Keyboard onscreen will be a bitch to use.. on your lap? on a desk? holding it with thumbs to type?

A matter of taste... And we shall have to see.

- CODEC support will be limited to H.264 no doubt. Massive fail there, i refuse to re-encode every movie or tv show i want to watch.

Even if it is so, your local Bittorent tracker will undoubtedly have versions of the same TV shows pre-formatted for iPad. Just like it is done for iPhone now. Just sayin'.

- E reader support will be locked down

Says so... where? Epub is an open format with *optinal* DRM. It is used by a few existing ebook stores (like the Sony one). Since iPad supports the epub specification, it will be pretty hard to lock the device down to accept only Apple-purchased files.

- Software deployment model limits development too much for a device of this size, i can get OS X on a netbook NOW and it works well.

...for some particular definitions of well. I have seen netbook hackintoshes. The experience you are getting on these machines sucks, plain and simple. The screens are for the most part awful. All netbook keyboards are awful. The software that runs on them (hacked OS X, Windows, or Linux) is not designed or extensively tested on small 1024x600 screens. They are slow. All netbooks cheaper than $500 are made or rickety plastic.

As i said i'm pretty sure this thing will sell, but in my opinion it has missed the mark by a wide margin.

And what would you prefer? Something akin to Axiotron Modbook for $1000? For one, you can own one for about $1600. It is a niche product, because it uses old desktop metaphor interface with pen input. It is heavy, expensive, and is handily beaten by a combination of a 21' iMac and a Wacom Cintiq 12UX (I do own a Cintiq).

Also, assuming the CPU is an ARM 1Ghz equivalent to the Snapdragon in the Nexus one, this is an underpowered machine for any of the things i mentioned above.

Did you see videos of one in action?
It is fast. It does not lag. I don't care whether the CPU is ARM or MIPS or is running at 4GHz. All that matters is that it is responsive.

... and i had crazy dreams of using Pixelmator or photoshop on this.. I must be mad.

Check out Brushes (yes, it was in the demo). This is as close as it gets to Pixelmator on a capacitive display.

In short, it is awesome.
 
I'm gonna install TomTom and CoPilot on this thing, that's gonna be one hell of a GPS navigation device!

What a great idea...

I just realized that this could be my in car entertainment and GPS center. Now let see if my local media installers can fit this baby into my dashboard :D

Having said that I'd still wait for the iPad 2.0 or even 3.0

Apple left out far too many features for future upgrades. That's how the game is played unfortunately.


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By the way... when you open up a real book, it's 4:3 so this aspect ratio actually makes sense on this screen. Book reading.

As noted in a previous post, a standard paperback novel is 7.5" tall and 4.2" wide, which translates into 15:8.4, almost 16:9 so, no, the majority of books out there that people would take with them on the go, like paperback novels and such, aren't 4:3.

It doesn't really matter anyway since text can be formatted to output in any way...
 
or maybe an iMac and an iPad instead of a laptop?
or maybe an MBP and an iPad and no iphone?
or maybe an iPad and an iPhone and no computer at all!

Exactly... I'm in the situation where I have a 17" MBP from work. An old Windows desktop for gaming. An iPhone and my wife's 13" plastic MB.

What's missing?

A _personal_ device for me to mess around on the web / look at photos / play small games. Sure my iPhone can "technically" do these things.... and that's what I use now. But the tiny form factor leaves a lot to be desired.

The iPad fits perfectly. I don't WANT a full blown netbook... I already have a laptop. I want something comfortable to use while I'm sitting in bed or around the house. Something fast and convenient.

There is more to a purchasing decision than just "specs".
 
hardly. heres your big iPod really.
no usb, no print capabilities, nothing.

And no handwriting recognition on a slate computer of all things! Would it have killed them to insert a little stylus into the case and allow us to write on it to take notes? Who wants to type on a virtual keyboard all the time?

In bold Apple fashion, the features they thought-thru completely really shine, but the omissions are glaring.
 
The big thing for me is going to be how easy it is for multiple people to use. Can I pick it up and check my email, then my wife pick it up and check her SEPARATE email account?

Also, what about separate calendars, contacts, bookmarks, etc.
 
Oh yeah - what happened to the new cont ent form?

One thing that was missing (but Iguess may be coming) is the eMagazine stuff we had heard so much about. Sure we had the Martin N from NYT showing us how the website looks, but where was the Wired rich content magazine (presumably viewable offline) that we had been looking for? I really hope they are working on a new form of content to make this thing more of a have to have.
 
Whether you want to believe it or not, this is a Kindle-killer and it's engineered towards the people who have long commutes. I see them every day, listening to their iPods and reading their Kindles. This is a great alternative -- everything in one place, plus the ability to (heaven forbid) get a little work done during your commute. This is a middle-aged person's dream toy.

It does beg the question of why you'd need an iPhone too, though.

I agree that it will replace my iPhone. Wait until the Cisco SoftPhone or Google Voice app for the iPad comes out. I know we may all be dead by the time it gets approved. Come to think of it, AT&T can not bitch about Google Voice since the iPad is not a voice device, I wonder if that will speed the approval process for GV. Cisco SoftPhone can not be too far behind.
 
Verdict

I think it looks like a great product. Maybe a built in webcam would have been a good bonus but Apple most have a sound reason not to include one at this stage. Perhaps it is just cynical and they are saving this for the next model.

Steve did introduce it as a device that sits between a laptop and iPhone. I think iPad achieves this brief.

At home I run my Air hard using it to convert video into various different formats, managing photos and extensive web browsing. The Air has several drives attached and really runs as a media server to various speakers and Apple TV's round house. For its size it performs well but its not a cheap product.

The iPad will perform a fair amount of these functions certainly around email, web, itunes and word processing. Lets face it most people don't use any computer for a lot more than this. At this price who is not going to love an iPad.

I can see me changing to a more powerful desktop machine and using an iPad as the ultimate portable device. This is the reason I have an Air as I do also need a portable device. Now I can use an iPad.

I have always loved my iPhone and apart from screen size it does also cater for most of my computing needs. Sometimes you just can't be bothered with the sitting at a table using a desktop or having to have a hot computer on your lap. Again iPad is perfect. So what if people say its just a big iPhone. Perfect. Thats just what I want with a few extra bells and whistles.

The whole sitting in comfy chair thing during the keynote was the exact point that Steve was trying to get across. The iPad will bring cheap basic computing to the people and provide them with the most common features they want, packaged in a quality Apple product.

I remember people slagging off the original iPhone......who has the last laugh now.

This will take off because it is simple and not some rubbish system with an over complicated OS.

I want one and I want one now.
 
sigh

I need a good large screen ereader. With an eye straining LCD screen this is not it. DAMN I really was hoping too :(
 
I don't want to unnecessarily scare anyone, but I do find it highly surprising how most people don't think about that fact that sitting with this thing in one's lap for long periods is a radiation risk - I wouldn't do it, especially if the device is actually in contact with the abdominal or genital area.

If I am going to read books, I think I will stick with the old fashioned and 100% safe way - good old fashioned paper. (Also better on the eyes than staring into backlight.)

Gorgeous device, true (although, as others have said, it is hardly revolutionary, since it is really a large iPod Touch) but those of you lucky to own one: use caution and don't sit for hours surfing the Web with it resting in your lap.
 
Bad taste

While I understand why apple is putting this out there (to have a netbook like thingy of their very own). As of late apple has left a bad taste in my mouth my current macbook pro that I currently own has been crap compared to my old one that was stolen. This one has died in a number of areas the harddrive twice and the logicboard has also died no idea if i just got a bad one or not, but these problems have also happened to my friends. I think apple should go back to the basics and give some solid hardware to their current products instead of building these crazy things that are over-glorified ipod touch's.

In the end it's all about the money and the iPad is obviously very easy to use so the masses will eat it up.
 
So when all other point's are hard to beat, bring up the OS again?

It's running a dual boot of Windows 7 and Linux, but if I want to load up Mac OS X, it will do that too. Oh yeah, a full Mac OS X, not iPhone OS, and all the benefits and advantages granted to it

In fact, I should put this under another advantage of the netbook over the iPad

Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. Actually, I wasn't slamming or trying to beat anything.

Here is my reply
Okay, just wondering. I don't know many people personally with netbooks, so I was just interested in what you were running. Sounds cool.
 
If you are in the market for an e-reader this is actually a great deal. I don't see how a kindle would be better:

e-ink: overrated obsolete technology.
Battery life: is a point, but who doesn't sit in the vicinity of a socket at least a few times per day.

Price points for the entry iPad and Kindle DX are the same. Same screen size, same book prices, more apps on iPad and better usage. Pretty amazing deal if you ask me.
 
ARE THERE SERIOUSLY NO USB PORTS!?!?!? This went from "best product of all time by a longshot" to "completely awesome" to "need to get one" to "wanna get one" to "pretty cool" to "okay" to "epic failure!"

The apple store has a camera connector with a usb port. Can you possibly use that for other usb items. Just askin
tj
 
disappointed.... simply nothing revolutionary about this device... really just a big ipod touch... to anyone who predicted this, kudos, i really expected more... I thought we were gonna see facial recognition in this thing... AT LEAST voice recognition... very lame... and no flash? really apple... really? one word on that, FAIL. I know why they dont include it, but to the end user between that and no multitasking this thing is REALLY disappointing.... maybe the iPad2 will bring some of what we actually expected from apple... and maybe multitasking will come with iphoneOS 4.0 who knows... I really want to know how much ram is in this thing.. thanks for letting us know that on the tech specs page apple...

We will just have to wait to see what the publishers create that might make this thing worth getting... because right now it looks pretty lame. The only thing they got right was the price.
 
No laptop bumps.

Sad.

But the iPad ended up being more desirable that I thought.. gonna be a great mobile device for my office meetings and client demos.

What's a "laptop bump"? Is that some new kind of disease suffered by folks who use laptops? Do these bumps appear on the lap, on your fingers, where? Is there a medication that works?
 
But it has multitasking and LED? Don't you guys read?

It's not an LED display, it's an LCD, IPS LCD to be more precise.

And it does not multitask - it's running iPhone OS, possibly with some extensions based on the updated SDK just released today. But since it IS running the same OS that the iPhone and the iPod touch are running right now (meaning the demo tablets they had for inspection after the event for reporters and journalists) then no, it doesn't multitask aside from being able to possibly have music playing while doing something else as long as that something else doesn't require the audio circuity.

Simple.
 
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