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Have fun saving its files...

What, like the thousands of apps for Mobile OSX that currently save files? And can even share them between apps, if the app makers so choose?

Ignorance is really unattractive. Pay attention: lack of a traditional desktop file browser =/= "no filesystem". People saying this has "no filesystem" are clearly impaired, or shills for competitors.
 
I have the same question as TheRick above:

Overall, looks like an incredible product and the start of something big! However, is it limited to a single user system?

It would truly be great to share one device between multiple people, each with different iTunes accounts / email addresses / etc, in the same house.
 
They've always focused on consumer products more.

As Steve Jobs said (for those us that actually read the blog posts), Apple has always been at the forefront of where technology and liberal arts intersect. Therein lies the justification for this product - making the benefits of technology accessible, tangible, and simple to those who want nothing to do with technology.
 
I'm disappointed. For someone who owns an iphone and macbook already, I hardly see what use someone would have for this. It's obviously the technology to have a phone running full OSX isn't possible yet. The reason the iphone works is because dealing with the iphone OS is worth the compromise of it fitting in my pocket. A phone would be in my pocket anyway. Anything it could do more than making calls is a plus. A Macbook is worth the compromise of it's large size for OSX. The ipad is too big to be portable and has a crippled iphone OS for nearly the price of a laptop. I love how he said it's better web experience than a netbook... netbooks can do flash. A netbook can run full OS programs because it is running a full OS. This is nothing more than a giant ipod touch.
 
Exactly... I'm in the situation where I have a 17" MBP from work. An old Windows desktop for gaming. An iPhone and my wife's 13" plastic MB.

What's missing?

A _personal_ device for me to mess around on the web / look at photos / play small games. Sure my iPhone can "technically" do these things.... and that's what I use now. But the tiny form factor leaves a lot to be desired.

The iPad fits perfectly. I don't WANT a full blown netbook... I already have a laptop. I want something comfortable to use while I'm sitting in bed or around the house. Something fast and convenient.

There is more to a purchasing decision than just "specs".

Yeah, my iPod Touch lives in my glove box connected to my stereo - and it's great for that. I think this could be a lot of fun!

I've never seen such pre-emptive mobilised negativity over any product as this tonight - at least your open to trying it!

Have you watched the video on Apple.com ?
 
It has ASSISTED GPS, and only in the 3G enabled model. Without 3G coverage or a WiFi connection to get map data, it is almost useless (as is the iPhone under similar conditions).

In other words, don't plan on taking that big family trip "out west" and expect to know where you are using a iPad or iPhone, unless you buy a real GPS receiver and application (in which case, you might as well just buy a dashboard GPS).

Odd. I've had quite good results with my iPhone when I've been well out of service range.

Some iPhones have had problems with bad GPS antenna - you may wish to get yours checked.
 
Yeah, right - all bet there are less than 6 people on this whole planet who will opt to own only and iPad and an iPhone but no computer. At this point, the iPad is FAR too limited to take the place of a "real" computer (and Apple realizes this too).

I don't know. My mom would would have this and nothing else in a second. I know the "email/web/photos" demographic is cliché, but it really is prevalent. A lot of them would love to have this instead of their current junky desktop taking up space in the living room corner. Sales will tell! One way or the other :)
 
I have the same question as TheRick above:

Overall, looks like an incredible product and the start of something big! However, is it limited to a single user system?

It would truly be great to share one device between multiple people, each with different iTunes accounts / email addresses / etc, in the same house.

This is why it would be nice to have a front camera face recognition would be awesome.
 
Are YOU kidding? Name me ONE thing that's useful and based on Flash? Ads? Video players that use a ton of CPU? Whole websites based on flash (that should have a non-flash version btw)?

Give me a break. Flash is useless!!! In my daily life the only place I see it is for browser ads.



again, While I agree that flash has become the bane of the internet...

Flash is actually a really great platform for the people that know how to program for it correctly.

For instance, I have a web based app (www.freshtxt.com) that is used for restaurants that would be great for the ipad, except that it runs flash. The app itself is INCREDIBLY lean, and super fast because it wasn't programmed by some hack who doesnt know flash.

that is just one of many examples.
 
As noted in a previous post, a standard paperback novel is 7.5" tall and 4.2" wide, which translates into 15:8.4, almost 16:9 so, no, the majority of books out there that people would take with them on the go, like paperback novels and such, aren't 4:3.

It doesn't really matter anyway since text can be formatted to output in any way...

When you open it and look at the pages side by side? I don't think so. We're not talking about reading one page at a time, but having 2 pages side by side. That's probably why it's 4:3.
 
Can someone link to a competing tablet (whatever is closest to this) to get some context of how competitive this is?

There is nothing like this on the market. Every other "tablet" device is a thick, ugly PC with a touch sensitive screen. Apple's goal here appears to be some level of "intimacy" with this device. You carry it around, you put it in your lap, you hold it, you pet it, you pass it around, you can cozy up into an armchair with it, etc. It will be practical in places typical tablets and notebooks are not.
 
If it comes with PDF support out of the box I will get one, does any one know this? I have many books in PDF so that would be the main reason I would get it
 
Sounds very revolutionary to me. :mad:

hey - heres an idea Apple - rather than enter the world of gimmicks and toys, why dont you spend a little more time sorting out your pathetically expensive and crap server line up? :mad:
or are you really aiming to become a glorified consumer gimmicks firm?:mad:

That's funny, pants on Oct. 21, 2001 said exactly the same thing (verbatim) about the iPod here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/ (#6).

Recycling?
 
No: hardly anyone in the world will opt to own only and iPad and an iPhone but no computer. At this point, the iPad is FAR too limited to take the place of a "real" computer (and Apple realizes this too).

Really? What exactly constitutes a 'real' computer for most people these days?

Something capable of web browsing, email, music & photo management, a little word processing maybe, running a few games?
 
Are people going to carry this and an iPhone? Why not allow the iPad to make calls and have an iChat camera.

Looks nice, but seems to be a prototype . . . . future version will surely offer more.

Couldn't agree more. I really wanted this to be more of an all in one product. Hopefully more info will be released about its 3G functions, I don't see why we couldn't make phone calls down the road when apple gets AT&T out of its hair.
As it is now I carry around my MacBook and iPhone, am I supposed to add an iPad to the list?

Really disappointed about lack of camera :(
 
Hummm.... interesting comments from some.

I think people need to keep this in perspective. What's really cool about this and makes it MUCH better than other tablets is the details they've put into the UI and re-doing all the applications to take advantage of the larger screen.

And it's not just a bigger iPhone. It has real apps on it like iWork and therefore we can assume it will have others soon. The cool thing is the apps aren't just a "here it is... a bigger version of the iPhone apps" but apps built to take advantage of the larger format.

The price points are good. I'm sure there will be a 2.0 version before the end of the year that rocks even more.

I say cool and another great addition!

The killer app that will make this a must-have device is the video game. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft need to be worried about this device as the perfect portable gaming platform that could easily displace dedicated consoles as well.
 
When you open it and look at the pages side by side? I don't think so. We're not talking about reading one page at a time, but having 2 pages side by side. That's probably why it's 4:3.

At the excessively low resolution and dot pitch of 1024x768 @ 132 dpi? I don't think so... and not once in those on-stage demos did they EVER show an eBook being read or displayed in Landscape mode, that's silly to think it's even an issue.

Does the Kindle do Landscape? Does any eBook reader? Nope.

But the Tablet PC I'm on right now does, at 1400x1050... go figure.

EDIT:
Was proven wrong here but keeping the text just in case, see post #732 for the facts. They did show it in landscape side-by-side, I just never caught that image on the live blogs I was keeping up with.
 
Those claiming that the iPhone does not have true GPS should check your facts. Apple specifically highlights the difference between GPS and cell tower triangulation in the iPhone PR materials, in case the tech specs are too cloudy for you.

Or, ask Tom-Tom:

http://iphone.tomtom.com/en-us/app.html

Sheesh.
 
I think I'll wait until iPad 2.0 with camera. Cool device though.

As the iPhone proved, the first version is usually a big open beta test while they work out their kinks. The second version will get all the cool bells and whistles that were subsidized by the early adopters.
 
Re: file management

The one poster was saying that's a good thing as there's no real reason to browse the hard drive. As long as the Photo-app can find the photo, why do you want to go manually searching for it?

If you wanted to email a photo and-or other docs (Works files etc) to someone, you would probably want to browse and make sure you're attaching the right docs.

Oh wait, I forgot, there's no multitasking.

Seriously, I left Microsoft for Apple years ago largely because I hated how they pushed so hard for me to use their software only for all my needs. A computer (or computer-type device like this) is something I want to buy and then use however the hell I want. I said "no thanks" to most of the Apple apps when I bought my first Mac and have enjoyed them for their hardware and OS ever since (and the few apps of theirs that meet my needs.)

This device sounds like a nightmare given how limited to running only certain apps in only the ways Apple wants. Maybe if I fit whatever profile of "average user" they designed this around, I'd be excited, but mainly I wish they just went back to making better hardware and interfaces than the other guys, and letting us decide how we want to use our computer (ultra-portable one in this case).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original iPod did NOT have anywhere near as many limitations as to what you could use it for compared to other MP3 players of that time as this does compared to netbooks today.
 
again, While I agree that flash has become the bane of the internet...

Flash is actually a really great platform for the people that know how to program for it correctly.

For instance, I have a web based app (www.freshtxt.com) that is used for restaurants that would be great for the ipad, except that it runs flash. The app itself is INCREDIBLY lean, and super fast because it wasn't programmed by some hack who doesnt know flash.

that is just one of many examples.

If your smart you'll get an SDK tonight and make an iPad version very quickly before someone else steals your market.
 
If you are in the market for an e-reader this is actually a great deal. I don't see how a kindle would be better:

e-ink: overrated obsolete technology.
Battery life: is a point, but who doesn't sit in the vicinity of a socket at least a few times per day.

Price points for the entry iPad and Kindle DX are the same. Same screen size, same book prices, more apps on iPad and better usage. Pretty amazing deal if you ask me.

I use an eink device, but its only 6in in size. It is ABSOLUTELY NOT overrated. I simply cannot read my computer monitor nearly as long as my sony reader.

I dont care about if the iPad has eink or not, but I KNOW I get eye strain from LCD. I hear there are other technologies that apple coudl have used, but didn't

Im really disappointed. All the large screen eink devices are not sold where I live:(
 
There is nothing like this on the market. Every other "tablet" device is a thick, ugly PC with a touch sensitive screen. Apple's goal here appears to be some level of "intimacy" with this device. You carry it around, you put it in your lap, you hold it, you pet it, you pass it around, you can cozy up into an armchair with it, etc. It will be practical in places typical tablets and notebooks are not.

This.

You've just described what's at the core of Apple products, and what is sadly missing from the devices the rest of the industry pushes out.
 
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