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Apple Releases iTunes 10.1 With Support for AirPlay and iOS 4.2
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Carbon is so heavily seeded into iTunes to the point where an entire rewrite of the application is needed. This was not the case for Logic.
There is a major difference between home sharing and airplay that everyone seems to be missing.
With home sharing you play the song or video on your Apple TV and it streams from your computer. It plays only on that Apple TV.
With airplay, you play the song (and hopefully soon video) on iTunes and then you can stream that to whichever Apple TV (OR COMBINATION OF APPLE TV'S) you want. If it works well, the ability to stream video to multiple Apple TV's will be very handy if you are playing something in the background, for example, whilst moving between rooms. I've been doing that a lot with music since I got the Apple TV's
Airplay is very handy with my MacBook Pro as well. We use home sharing from our iMac, but I also have all my music and some playlists on my MacBook. I can play that music on the Apple TV without it being set up for home sharing which keeps the Apple TV menus cleaner.
If video airplay works then for me it will be the best feature of the 4.2 updates.
With home sharing you play the song or video on your Apple TV and it streams from your computer. It plays only on that Apple TV.
With airplay, you play the song (and hopefully soon video) on iTunes and then you can stream that to whichever Apple TV (OR COMBINATION OF APPLE TV'S) you want. If it works well, the ability to stream video to multiple Apple TV's will be very handy if you are playing something in the background, for example, whilst moving between rooms. I've been doing that a lot with music since I got the Apple TV's
Airplay is very handy with my MacBook Pro as well. We use home sharing from our iMac, but I also have all my music and some playlists on my MacBook. I can play that music on the Apple TV without it being set up for home sharing which keeps the Apple TV menus cleaner.
If video airplay works then for me it will be the best feature of the 4.2 updates.
You can also remove the Ping button thing that appears to the right of any selected track from the preferences. It's in the parental controls tab. Unchecking Ping from the general tab and checking it in the parental controls tab will effectively hide Ping everywhere in iTunes. Even the sidebar and all
The Windows version is not 64 bit. There are two versions, one for 32 bit Windows and one for 64 bit in terms of compatibility, it's not a 64 bit iTunes. Why would they make it for Windows and not for Mac?
I have nothing against that. What I am against is having something I'm not interested in waste my screen real estate. And I'm glad they added the option to disable it.
And for the record in the previous version the PING button replaced the arrow that went to artists/albums, so yes it did remove some functionality.
Quit your damn meta-whining. YOU were the one who asked what people didn't like, so don't whine when someone actually takes the time to answer you.
Logic is close to 20 years old, it started out in Carbon and absolutely needed a total rewrite to end up 64 bit.
Cover flow view (Music) broken!
10.1. seems to work just swell. Except:
When I click the cover flow icon in the status bar (whilst on music in the left pane), the view moves to "List view" with listings showing up both in the status bar AND below in the window.
Because the icons are overwritten by music entries, the only way to move back is through the view-menu.
I can reproduce this bug.
No big deal but sloppy and annoying.
V
10.1. seems to work just swell. Except:
When I click the cover flow icon in the status bar (whilst on music in the left pane), the view moves to "List view" with listings showing up both in the status bar AND below in the window.
Because the icons are overwritten by music entries, the only way to move back is through the view-menu.
I can reproduce this bug.
No big deal but sloppy and annoying.
V
I don't think that iTunes on 64-bit Windows is actually 64-bit version of iTunes. It is still 32-bit. It is just compatible with 64-bit Windows (like Win7 x64). I installed itunes 64-bit on Win7 x64 and it still is a 32-bit app.
Logic wasn't totally rewritten. As an audio sequencer, much of its core is GUI-independent.
The age of an app is irrelevant. The apps current status is relevant. The fact remains that Logic had far more advances than iTunes has had in its development of modern API usage. You think a rewrite of an entire application happens over night? Logic was already fully Cocoa before 9.1 came out.
I'm assuming that every pixel on your computer and other electronics represent something you are interested in. Doubt it. I wasn't whining at all, just stating a few facts about functionality. People began to whine about Ping long before I asked what they didn't like about it. My asking of what people didn't like about it is irrelevant with my post asking people to stop whining. People still whine after my post asking people to stop whining, just read what you wrote above.
While there may have been some code that was split off into other threads and let them get around having to rewrite all of it, it was still a huge amount of code to be rewritten. And if you're going to get that technical, iTunes also has things like encoding libraries that may be GUI-independent and they can get away with not rewriting. Anyway, the point is that it's silly to insist somehow iTunes is a mammoth undertaking to update while Logic is a walk in the park. And note that none of the other major audio sequencers (DP, Cubase, PT) are 64 bit yet.
So you're actually agreeing with me - Logic WAS rewritten. Of course they didn't do the entire rewrite after 9.0 shipped (and I didn't say it did), but it's still a rewrite. So what makes you think it's not a similar situation with iTunes where they already have done some (most? all?) of the rewriting? For all we know they may have a 64 bit version of iTunes already running internally and just haven't released it for whatever reason (I certainly hope so).
Is it really so hard for you to understand?
The item in the left menu took up vertical space, pushing out playlist items at the bottom. Yes, I'd rather have less of that wasted vertical space and scroll less often - obviously Apple came around to agreeing that the "whiners" were right in this case since they changed it. As pointed out earlier, the ping buttons in the listings of songs DID remove functionality. And no, if they had found somewhere in the interface to put that stuff without removing functionality I used and without pushing some of my content offscreen, I wouldn't have complained at all.
Go back and read the thread.
You asked what people didn't like.
When I answered the question, you called it "whining".
Do I really need to explain in more detail why that response looks so foolish?
I've got news for you.
iTunes is dog slow on a Mac too. This thing takes forever to load, and while moving around in the iTunes app I see the spinning beachball of death so often I think I'm at Malibu. Connecting to the iTunes store takes forever and a day. And iTunes sucks up considerable processor power even when it's just siting there idle.
iTunes needs a MAJOR overhaul.
You can't. Despite what it says in the release notes, Airplay on 10.1 still doesn't work as advertised. You can only stream audio, as if it were an Airport Express.
Its does...but there is nothing better...Why don't we send letters to Apple asking for a rewrite?
I'm not sure if anyone has responded to this already, but you can make iTunes always display the artwork even for albums that only have a few songs. Just go to "View > Always Show Artwork."
Hope that helps.
Uhh, no I'm not. You stated that a point update added 64-bit capability in Logic which was already fully written in Cocoa (it has been since version 8). This does not apply to iTunes which is still majorly written in Carbon. Case closed. What makes me think iTunes isn't in a similar situation? I already stated my reasons and have you even used iTunes? iTunes is no where near Cocoa quality. It's this weird frankenstein app that tries to imitate Cocoa.
My original point still stands: Anyone that expected iTunes to be updated to 64-bit when it's still written in Carbon is setting themselves up for disappointment. I would not have said this had iTunes been fully Cocoa compliant already, but it isn't.
Can i stream or share an itunes library from my mac to my iDevice.. say my iphone?