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The Apple Music app on Mac still has the iTunes CD ripping functionality apparently. I haven't tried it but it's still in there.
I used it just earlier this week. It's completely identical to iTunes in that regard.
 
Now you have people who get upset their iPod or iPhone won't show up in Music.app because they don't realize it has to be managed in the Finder.
These people might need glasses.

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I used to use iTunes for Windows, but there was a character limit on filenames that was a problem for me as I was managing a very large music library. I switched to Mac and haven't looked back since. I wonder if the character limit is still an issue these days.

I wonder if this is an issue with Windows and not iTunes.

In the Windows API (with some exceptions discussed in the following paragraphs), the maximum length for a path is MAX_PATH, which is defined as 260 characters. A local path is structured in the following order: drive letter, colon, backslash, name components separated by backslashes, and a terminating null character. For example, the maximum path on drive D is "D:\some 256-character path string<NUL>" where "<NUL>" represents the invisible terminating null character for the current system codepage. (The characters < > are used here for visual clarity and cannot be part of a valid path string.)

Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/maximum-file-path-limitation?tabs=registry
 
iTunes may not be perfect but it’s still a necessity as it’s the only way to manage an iOS device, at least on windows.


The biggest problem with itunes is that for some inexplicable reason, it still doesn’t support FLAC files. it’s the only way to sync music files to the iOS music library, due to Apple’s locked down ecosystem, but you can’t even put FLAC files onto your device because iTunes is crippled and can’t recognize them to begin with. Whereas Apple’s official specification for iOS and iPhones claims to support FLAC, it is meaningless as they don’t offer any way to get the files into the library. It is a false claim as far as I am concerned. I wonder when they will fix this.
 
So weird reading all these 'we love iTunes' posts here. On Reddit and other forums people on Windows can't wait to ditch iTunes for the new Music/TV+/Device apps currently in preview.

iTunes performance is terrible on Windows, no lossless and other missing functions and it looks like software from the nineties on Windows with no dark mode. The new Music app fixes all that (but still is very buggy)
Windows iTunes has always been garbage, but what I'm talking fondly of is the name iTunes itself. It was an awesome trademark and Apple abandoned it on their own platform.

Rather than do that, Apple should have just made Windows iTunes better, and kept using iTunes across MacOS and Windows.
 
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iTunes may not be perfect but it’s still a necessity as it’s the only way to manage an iOS device, at least on windows.


The biggest problem with itunes is that for some inexplicable reason, it still doesn’t support FLAC files. it’s the only way to sync music files to the iOS music library, due to Apple’s locked down ecosystem, but you can’t even put FLAC files onto your device because iTunes is crippled and can’t recognize them to begin with. Whereas Apple’s official specification for iOS and iPhones claims to support FLAC, it is meaningless as they don’t offer any way to get the files into the library. It is a false claim as far as I am concerned. I wonder when they will fix this.
Whenever I obtain a FLAC file, I just transcode it to ALAC which is fully supported. The nice thing is both formats are lossless, so the conversion is lossless too.

I use an old app called Max to do the conversion. It can batch convert hundreds of files quickly by doing it in parallel across all your cores.
 
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Whenever I obtain a FLAC file, I just transcode it to ALAC which is fully supported. The nice thing is both formats are lossless, so the conversion is lossless too.

I use an old app called Max to do the conversion. It can batch convert hundreds of files quickly by doing it in parallel across all your cores.
Unfortunately there are other considerations that make ALAC a non-equivalent, these have been explained and gone over on the internet countless times. So I’m not going to go into it here but the TLDR is I would sooner hit delete on my entire music library than transcode to ALAC.


I have to wonder why Apple has such an aversion to simply adding support for both. There’s no good reason I could think of. Imagine if it was 2003, iTunes could only play AAC and would reject your MP3 files - everyone would’ve been up in arms.
 
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Itunes on my PC has worked really well. I'm not a fan of the new formats. Heck, on the Mac computer, I can't even buy full box set series of TV shows because the TV app doesn't have it. I have to either use Itunes or go on the Apple TV. The TV app is a mess, and the music app leaves some to be desired as well. Itunes just feels more convenient.
Same here, the TV app on both my Macs is horrible and i do all my purchasing either via the Apple TV, or my PC, then I download them and use them via my Mac/apple tv. I blame the Mac developers for this, it shouldn't be this way.
 
Everybody was complaining a few years back that iTunes was a bloated mess and that it needed to go, yet those same people are now claiming the opposite…
I've never complained about iTunes -- I actually have always like it.
 
Sooo how does this work for those who downloaded Apple TV and Apple Music which disables iTunes? Do we have to uninstall those for it work or will it work in the background now?
 
It’s not strange for non Apple users with Apple devices like iPhones.
iTunes is the native app to manage Apple devices, even with its limitations, especially for Windows users.
I know but I’m curious why they didn’t rebrand the app for Windows too.
 
Did MacOS stop supporting iPod Classics? I honestly haven't tried plugging one into a Mac from the last few years yet.
Ventura still supports iPod Classic, at very much reduced functionality (i.e. not able to edit or change smart playlists on the classic, etc).
 
Unfortunately there are other considerations that make ALAC a non-equivalent, these have been explained and gone over on the internet countless times. So I’m not going to go into it here but the TLDR is I would sooner hit delete on my entire music library than transcode to FLAC.


I have to wonder why Apple has such an aversion to simply adding support for both. There’s no good reason I could think of. Imagine if it was 2003, iTunes could only play AAC and would reject your MP3 files - everyone would’ve been up in arms.
And there is no reason for Apple to honor everything they claim either, at least according to Apple’s track record. In fact, even back in 2003 Apple would’ve just forced everyone using AAC and deny MP3 access and after initial backlash it would be as if nothing happens. FLAC doesn’t benefit 10 billion people, so Apple clearly forgot about the support and just subsequently ignored it.
 
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New iTunes is out for Windows build 12.12.9.4 x64. Release notes shows "This update includes security improvements."
Although I would never want to use Windows (because I strongly prefer macOS), I am glad to see that iTunes is still getting updates. I miss iTunes and prefer its interface to what Apple has created for the Mac as replacements for iTunes.
 
iTunes is a music player, right? Can it play FLAC files yet?

If not, it is either a programming error or a deliberately malicious anti-consumer exclusion by Apple.
 
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