Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Oh, I can't listen to that. But I did do the 90 day Apple Music trial and then quickly set the auto-renew option to OFF. Apple Music was the only way I could listen to my music yesterday, as I couldn't get any of my "in the cloud" purchases to show up in my library. So far, I've used Apple Music to listen (more than just the 30/1:30 clips) to stuff from some bands I have material from, but haven't delved too deeply, like The Ramones. So it's really good as a research tool for me now. I could see myself maybe paying for a month here and there, only using it to go and find stuff I've not had a chance to hear fully. But I don't ever see myself paying month to month to month.

I guess it's horses for courses. I already pay for Spotify with a 'family' sub adding my wife for an additional £5, and IF Music works as I'd like then I can see me moving over to it so I can add my Mum etc all for the same price I pay Spotify. So far, Music does what it says on the tin for me. Maybe I was just lucky. Which, to be honest, would make a change.
 
Two questions: 1) I thought I heard you could edit song titles and album art of songs you own and have downloaded to your device but I can't find the ability to do this anywhere. Was I dreaming or am I doing something wrong?

2) What kind of format do I need to submit a bug report to Apple in? Also, where exactly do I go to submit a bug report? My main issues are when I tap on "add to my music library" It stays for a few seconds, but if I go back to make sure it changes back to "add to library" from "remove to library" and it does not ever end up in my library. Also, Sometimes I will heart a song, and a few seconds later it will un-heart itself. The third issue I'm having is All my old playlists including my top rated (rated by my star ratings) are still all usable and visible on my phone, however they are no longer visible at all in my iPad and I can't create a playlist on my ipad of all my 5 star rated music either. I'd like to report these three issues however I can.
 
I have the latest iOS and iTunes and latest rMBP OS X

Not sure if any of those did this

When opening iTunes on my rMBP, I can select the Music icon on top left and it shows all my playlists at bottom of sidebar and they are synced to iPhone. Those playlists also show up when I select the Playlist tab at top bar on iTunes. All music is shown within the Playlist icon. These are the Playlists shown at the bottom of the left sidebar in iTunes. I assume that is the playlists on the rMBP.

My iPhone is in sync with the iTunes Playlists.

But, when I click on those Playlists under my device icon on the left sidebar 2 Playlists are empty, although the playlists are populated on my iPhone.

I can't seem to select and copy those songs back into the empty playlist folders.

If I go to Summary with my device selected and want to sync just selected playlists, that is going from iTunes to iPhone, correct? Which may wipe the good playlists on iPhone.

I don't want to delete and recreate as it may delete Playlist folders on iPhone also.

Does this sound like a 12.2/8.4 issue? I have not accepted Apple Music.

Any thoughts?

Hope I explained this well enough--

Thanks
 
I have the latest iOS and iTunes and latest rMBP OS X

Not sure if any of those did this

When opening iTunes on my rMBP, I can select the Music icon on top left and it shows all my playlists at bottom of sidebar and they are synced to iPhone. Those playlists also show up when I select the Playlist tab at top bar on iTunes. All music is shown within the Playlist icon. These are the Playlists shown at the bottom of the left sidebar in iTunes. I assume that is the playlists on the rMBP.

My iPhone is in sync with the iTunes Playlists.

But, when I click on those Playlists under my device icon on the left sidebar 2 Playlists are empty, although the playlists are populated on my iPhone.

I can't seem to select and copy those songs back into the empty playlist folders.

If I go to Summary with my device selected and want to sync just selected playlists, that is going from iTunes to iPhone, correct? Which may wipe the good playlists on iPhone.

I don't want to delete and recreate as it may delete Playlist folders on iPhone also.

Does this sound like a 12.2/8.4 issue? I have not accepted Apple Music.

Any thoughts?

Hope I explained this well enough--

Thanks
I'm having similar issues on my iPad Air. All my previously made playlists went poof.... however on my iPhone 6+ they all still seem to be there. I haven't messed AT ALL with iTunes on my PC because i'm still far far too scared of the horror stories I've heard so far. Apple Music has NOT effected anything negatively on my iPad or iPhone and I don't want to take that chance yet because so far, Apple Music has been amazing for me. I'm also by the way an iTunes Match subscriber and I was before Apple Music as well. I think in my current setup of not updating iTunes and leaving it for matching music and not Apple Music, and then just having Apple Music on my iOS devices is a great setup for me (and maybe others?) who are scared of the iTunes issues.
 
I'm having similar issues on my iPad Air. All my previously made playlists went poof.... however on my iPhone 6+ they all still seem to be there. I haven't messed AT ALL with iTunes on my PC because i'm still far far too scared of the horror stories I've heard so far. Apple Music has NOT effected anything negatively on my iPad or iPhone and I don't want to take that chance yet because so far, Apple Music has been amazing for me. I'm also by the way an iTunes Match subscriber and I was before Apple Music as well. I think in my current setup of not updating iTunes and leaving it for matching music and not Apple Music, and then just having Apple Music on my iOS devices is a great setup for me (and maybe others?) who are scared of the iTunes issues.

My problem is not an issue per se, as the those empty folders are only on the mac and not something i would click on. Just OCD on having it all correct. I am not going to subscribe to AM as I am not a big listener. Thought about Match as my son and his wife use it. But, I probably won't. Have no memory issues on iPhone, so can keep everything on iPhone. Never was good at iTunes and all the inputting of my personal music/movies and syncing. Blindly stumbled thru all it to get everything as I want it. I do read and research a lot, so may figure it out. Unless someone has an answer. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jstuts5797
I'm not sure I can really answer. But aside from missing playlists on my iPad, Apple Music has worked great for me with the setup of having it all turned on in my phone and iPad but NOT on iTunes. Apple Music actually fixed a lot of missing album art and stuff that I had still had not fixed yet myself. It was pretty instant and did its thing. But again I don't mess with iTunes. I know that's one thing I love about iTunes Match. It made it so that I really rarely ever have to use iTunes for anything. And everything syncs automatically. I'm like you on the iTunes bit. I used it as a means to an end. And the end is I never have to use it anymore... Which works great for me.
 
I am the same. I don't really use it other than backups anymore. I buy most things from Store now and set up thru iPhone. Use to use Wondershares TunesGo Retro for moving things around, but I don't think it is up to date with latest OS's. Probably mentioned here, but read any of your personal music put into AM will have DRM added in icloud.
 
I found a few bugs. The biggest is making a playlist avaliable offline. It works and songs do get downloaded to device but they don't get marked as being local with a phone symbol next to the "..." But I've tried going into airplane mode and all the songs do play. The only time they get marked with a phone symbol is when u manually go through each song and set it to "make avaliable offline".

Hopefully they fix this in the next update
 
I am the same. I don't really use it other than backups anymore. I buy most things from Store now and set up thru iPhone. Use to use Wondershares TunesGo Retro for moving things around, but I don't think it is up to date with latest OS's. Probably mentioned here, but read any of your personal music put into AM will have DRM added in icloud.
Apparently... According to a reply someone got from Apple in another forum, if you are an iTunes Match subscriber you can still download NON DRM files of songs you purchased, have matched, or have up,loaded to the iTunes Match service.
 
Apparently... According to a reply someone got from Apple in another forum, if you are an iTunes Match subscriber you can still download NON DRM files of songs you purchased, have matched, or have up,loaded to the iTunes Match service.

Yes with Match you are fine. With AM you really don't own them anymore unless you are still subscribed. Otherwise you can't play them. afaik
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jstuts5797
Yes with Match you are fine. With AM you really don't own them anymore unless you are still subscribed.

Ok that makes me feel better about my situation, but I still feel bad for you all you were not/are not iTunes Match subscribers. I really see Apple in the future just including itunes match in its full functionality to Apple Music subscribers and then also allowing people to subscribe to JUST iTunes Match if thats all they want. The fact that with iTunes Match if you download the songs you still got the DRM free (and upgraded quality if it applies) version was a HUGE selling point. If they have suddenly and quietly changed gears on that for iTunes Match subscribers who ALSO want Apple Music.... well that would be bad. Apple NEVER EVER promised ANYONE that Apple Music only subscribers were getting full iTunes Match functions thrown in as well. I know a lot of people assumed that, but this is what they meant by independent but complimentary. My issue right now is insuring for me that they are holding to the "complimentary" part.
 
  • Like
Reactions: navaira
I couldn't get my iTunes Match to turn on after upgrading iTunes. It gave me message that I had to turn off Genius from the Store menu. Well, there no longer is a store menu.

I then tried restore the last version of iTunes from Time Machine and it told I couldn't because iTunes was needed by the system.

I ended up restoring my entire computer to the day before and got the old iTunes back with iTunes Match working. I don't need Apple Music, I want iTunes Match to work.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Benjamin Frost
I couldn't get my iTunes Match to turn on after upgrading iTunes. It gave me message that I had to turn off Genius from the Store menu. Well, there no longer is a store menu.

I then tried restore the last version of iTunes from Time Machine and it told I couldn't because iTunes was needed by the system.

I ended up restoring my entire computer to the day before and got the old iTunes back with iTunes Match working. I don't need Apple Music, I want iTunes Match to work.

Ahhh this is what I was afraid of. I have no problems staying with the old version of iTunes for my iTunes Match and just using Apple Music on my iphone and iPad
 
Getting operation error on practically every song i play on my iPhone since trying out Apple Music and switching iCloud Drive off since it messed with my library. Waiting on my new iOS9 beta to come.
 
http://www.mcelhearn.com/the-real-difference-between-itunes-match-and-icloud-music-library-drm/

"When you match and download files from iCloud Music Library (without having an iTunes Match subscription), however, you get files with DRM; the same kind of files you get when you download files from Apple Music for offline listening. (These files should have DRM, so you can’t just download and keep all the music you want for $10 a month.) But if you’re using Apple Music, and not iTunes Match, Apple doesn’t make a distinction between which files were originally yours, and which you downloaded for offline listening from Apple Music.

[…] Update 2: It’s gotten even worse for me. I’ve tried signing out of my account, and signing back in again, but I still see many of my tracks showing the iCloud Status as Apple Music. And this is now also affecting purchased tracks."

As I understand this, if you subscribe for the free trial and sync your songs with iCloud, it removes SONGS YOU PURCHASED and replaces them with Apple Music files you can't play without a subscription, therefore ensuring you will have to pay whether you want to or not. True or false? I'm suddenly very happy that my library wouldn't upload to iCloud due to "Genius results can't be updated right now" error. (I do not use Genius, and the error actually means "Your library is too large")
 
It appears that the problem that you have is not happening everywhere (otherwise there would already be articles about it and a few class action lawsuits)

There's been some coverage already for the problem hkrabye and I have been having. No statement from Apple. No word on an official fix yet. It seems limited to people who used to have iTunes Match and re-subscribed.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2943532/users-experiencing-mangled-music-librari es-in-itunes-12-2.html

http://www.cultofmac.com/327897/did-icloud-music-library-break-your-collection-h eres-a-fix/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/1/8877129/apple-music-icloud-problems

http://mashable.com/2015/07/01/itunes-icloud-music-library-bug/

There's a thread in the Apple support forums with a work-around in case anyone needs it: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104745?start=0&tstart=0
 
I'm curious... For those of you having this issue ... As I understand it this is kind of what's happenin(I'm going to generalize and simplify for the sake of time and sanity) basically you guys are having the issue where say 6 months ago you purchased a song from the iTunes Store WITHOUT DRM. Now that Apple Music has done whatever to your libraries, when you try to download that track to your device(or computer) it's now a version with DRM on it without a way to get back your non DRM version? If this is indeed what some of your are experiencing have any of you tried to instead of downloading from within the music app, instead going to the iTunes Store and either searching for said song and redownloading from there (should show a cloud icon instead of the price, or maybe just GET now) . Or if it's all or a lot of your purchased music, try going to the purchased tab then click on "not on this iPad/iPod/ext" and download from that list.... But again from all within the iTunes Store and NOT Apple Music or the music app.

Some of you may have already tried this I don't know. I haven't updated iTunes on my PC yet in fear of issues. But I figured this might be worth a shot for someone, and aside from that I'm just damn curious if this would fix that one issue anyway.
 
What are you talking about? Of course they test their products. It appears that the problem that you have is not happening everywhere (otherwise there would already be articles about it and a few class action lawsuits) so it might be a local thing that triggered this behaviour that is so unique that it could not be anticipated ot tested.

These things also happen on other platforms. Software development for large markets wth many variables is difficult. Mistakes and errors will happen, regardless of the amount of testing anyone does.
But the delivered software works quite questionable. It is really hard to let anyone think, the software is tested.

I believe most of us in here understand difficulty in developing huge software. But this is not the excuse to deliver such software package, especially for apple, which charges premium price for almost every paid service or product. And, Apple music is more expensive than iTunes match.

Solely talking about this doesn't help much. I decide to end up here.
 
I'm sorry to be hearing about some issues folk are having with iTunes match and the cloud. I sure hope Apple gets those fixed quick.

As for me, I'm not using either match or the cloud. But I have been so focused on the new radio aspect of iTunes 12.2 (and had a busy holiday weekend), that I've only just started examining the other aspects of it. I think it's GREAT! I teach an exercise class and create playlists for it. 12.2 has a lot of really useful features for that. I especially like that when I hit a song on my playlist, it doesn't immediate go to a cover image (requiring me to go back to the list, then back to "what's playing" as it did before). It stays on the list. As with the radio feature, the song is not only shown to be playing in the list (play/pause button by the song in the list), but also down at the bottom. With a swipe, I can bring up the album image if I like and see all the details (length of song--important in exercises classes as you want to say "ten seconds more--!" volume, etc). But I can stay on the list if I want. Very useful!

It's also way easier to edit those playlists, which I often do, switching in new songs and refreshing them. And I like the aesthetic changes, too. The artwork that shows a quartet of images from the playlists albums for each playlist. Also that each list is backed by the color of the album art from the first song. That's helpful for me as I can now associate a certain playlist with it's background color, better remembering what kind of music is on it.

It's visually appealing with a lot of good options, and it makes it even easier than it was to use such lists in my classes. Good job, Apple!
 
I'm sorry to be hearing about some issues folk are having with iTunes match and the cloud. I sure hope Apple gets those fixed quick.

As for me, I'm not using either match or the cloud. But I have been so focused on the new radio aspect of iTunes 12.2 (and had a busy holiday weekend), that I've only just started examining the other aspects of it. I think it's GREAT! I teach an exercise class and create playlists for it. 12.2 has a lot of really useful features for that. I especially like that when I hit a song on my playlist, it doesn't immediate go to a cover image (requiring me to go back to the list, then back to "what's playing" as it did before). It stays on the list. As with the radio feature, the song is not only shown to be playing in the list (play/pause button by the song in the list), but also down at the bottom. With a swipe, I can bring up the album image if I like and see all the details (length of song--important in exercises classes as you want to say "ten seconds more--!" volume, etc). But I can stay on the list if I want. Very useful!

It's also way easier to edit those playlists, which I often do, switching in new songs and refreshing them. And I like the aesthetic changes, too. The artwork that shows a quartet of images from the playlists albums for each playlist. Also that each list is backed by the color of the album art from the first song. That's helpful for me as I can now associate a certain playlist with it's background color, better remembering what kind of music is on it.

It's visually appealing with a lot of good options, and it makes it even easier than it was to use such lists in my classes. Good job, Apple!

Glad to hear you've gleaned some nuggets from the wreckage.
 
It's been amazing for me too. But I have yet to update iTunes on my PC, and I was/is an iTunes Match subscriber the entire time. The "For You" section gets me to a T. The Beats1 radio station is way better than anything terrestrial radio has to offer in my area. For me, it's been a HUGE win. It's even fixed and correct some issues I still had with bad metadata and album art. I too however feel bad for those stuck with issues. I imagine the bad experiences are just unfortunate bugs and not the intended experience by Apple.
 
It's been amazing for me too. But I have yet to update iTunes on my PC, and I was/is an iTunes Match subscriber the entire time. The "For You" section gets me to a T. The Beats1 radio station is way better than anything terrestrial radio has to offer in my area. For me, it's been a HUGE win. It's even fixed and correct some issues I still had with bad metadata and album art. I too however feel bad for those stuck with issues. I imagine the bad experiences are just unfortunate bugs and not the intended experience by Apple.

It's been great here too. Loving the UI, features long overdue. Beats 1, whilst not always playing what I like, has introduced me to new music. Some shows I like, some I don't.

Installed iTunes update on the Mac and no issues at all. I was on iTunes Match. Seamless.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jstuts5797
I've just been avoiding updating iTunes for. Few reasons #1 it's rare I use it for music much anyway, unless it's for adding stuff to iTunes Match... Which brings me to my next reason #2 I still want to be able to add stuff to my iTunes Match without worrying if it got added to the iCloud music library instead(I've heard of this issue) and #3 I've heard that even some iTunes Match subscribers have had issues with their library. I wish I had an idea of how widespread the issues with iTunes really is. You can't really tell on here because the people who have issues are louder than those who don't. If I were to find that people in my particular situation as a whole haven't been having widespread issues I would go ahead and update. I'm also soooo happy to have up next! Been waiting for that forever! And despite claims of just being Ping 2.0 I'm finding connect way more engaging for me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Benjamin Frost
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.