which app? could it possibly be one you bought from another apple id at some point in history?
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Apple Releases iTunes 12.7 With Major Changes, Including No Built-In App Store
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which app? could it possibly be one you bought from another apple id at some point in history?
This is what is happening to me. I only have one Apple ID and no matter how many updates show on the AppStore, Configurator 2 will not show any. It will only update apps to other devices that need a newer version of the app that is on my Mac (like an older iPad that was not updated for awhile).
Well downloading and syncing my iOS devices via iTunes is the reason I bought an iPhone and an iPad, it's easy, full compatibility without worries. Now these advantages are lost, I'm a Mac user, I don't care about iPhones when they don't offer these advantages of compatibility. I can listen to songs on an Android device as well and I can buy them from google as my iPhone's main reason of existence is the full automated way of installing, purchasing, usage!!! I don't want to go to three or more different shops: iTunes for songs; App Store for Mac software, iOS store for iPhone apps, iBook for reading, iPhoto for pictures. The iPhone and the iPad have lost a lot of value to me from today. And no I still will wear my Grand Seiko, keep your watch. Bollocks!
Probably because you updated them within iTunes. That's done so when you next sync the phone it would push any updated apps to the phone rather than requiring you to update them directly on the device. Well, until 12.7
Thanks.
A quick question.
So, if I download a game on my iPhone and then later connect it to iTunes, and backup my iPhone, usually, the game itself and any accompanying data for it (game level progress) is backed up to. So that if I needed to restore my iPhone (if I got a new iPhone for example) I would have everything as it was on my previous iPhone.
How will I be able to do this now please
I absolutely love the nested folders - NOT! I wonder if Apple Configurator archives the older apps when a newer app is available.
Google Maps. I have only one Apple ID and have never had any other.
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After I installed Configurator 2 it showed that there updates available for several apps, but I had downloaded the updates into iTunes already, before iTunes 12.7, but not transferred them to my iPad. Given what I experienced today, my guess is that it is at least necessary to start the update on the iPad so that the AppStore history shows that I have gotten the new version of the app. Thereafter Configurator 2 will check the version of the app on my computer and on the AppStore against what is on my iPad, and inform me that there is an update available if the version on the former is newer than the version on the latter. If that is so, then not only is the AppStore not available on C2 for getting apps for the first time but also for updating apps. It is thus useful for management of apps but not for keeping up with updates to apps.
I would be glad to be proven wrong, but it appears that the best solution is to revert to 12.6 and keep it for as long as possible.
Everything? Including managing the layout of various devices one might own? If not, then this is a step backwards and you aren't correct.
How is making things harder "the future"?
You back up to iTunes as before, but it only backs up the NAME of your app, not the app itself. When you do a restore, it restores all your data and app data but then triggers a download from the app store (using whatever Apple ID you originally used to download the app) to download that app.Thanks.
A quick question.
So, if I download a game on my iPhone and then later connect it to iTunes, and backup my iPhone, usually, the game itself and any accompanying data for it (game level progress) is backed up to. So that if I needed to restore my iPhone (if I got a new iPhone for example) I would have everything as it was on my previous iPhone.
How will I be able to do this now please
So ... iTunes restores everything apart from the apps from your local backup then downloads the apps directly on your phone/ipad. So make sure your phone is on wifi if you don't have a big data plan!
Thanks very much for that super useful, helpful and detailed reply, really appreciate it.
I always use the Lightning cable when I am doing a restore (as I find it faster) so I assume this method won't use any of my cellular data to directly download the apps on to my iPhone?
Tim Cook, you need to call your people into your office and tell them to fix this ****. There is a large number of us who have been with Apple for a long time because we felt safe knowing we could save our apps and their data on our Macs. We pay extra for the Apple brand just because we know how easy it has been to sync data between our devices. As it stands now I have no reason to by the iPhone 8 that I had plan to purchase because it come with iTunes 12.7. I'll just stay with iTunes 12.6 and the current Mac OS until it no longer works. I'm thinking I'll not be the only one doing this.
Please help us Mr. Cook.
Please help us Mr. Cook.
Makes no difference. Your apps will download directly to your phone. if your phone is on wifi it'll use wifi. If your phone is on 3/4G it'll use that. The lightening cable isn't used at all for this.
Here's how to revert back to 12.6.2. Worked great for me
https://www.itipbox.com/downgrade-itunes-previous-version/
https://www.itipbox.com/downgrade-itunes-previous-version/
yes, including managing homes screen layouts. i actually find the interface to be slightly more smooth when it comes to managing app layouts than itunes was, there's less lag. YMMV though
Any idea on whether Apple Configurator 2 can be used alongside 12.6? I'd like to try it out before even thinking about 12.7 (not that I've found a compelling reason to update – iOS 11 works fine with 12.6).
there's no reason it shouldnt be able to be, it was last updated in june i think it was.
Saw that it was updated recently, so I would think it'd coexist happily. But then again, who though they'd kill 12.7?
I haven't connected a device to AC yet, but do see it recognizes the current backups done through iTunes. Hopefully, that means any backups done through Configurator will use those. My other specific question is sharing the Mobile Applications folder.
Okay, then most of my complaints are addressed I guess, other than Apple's absymal communication on this issue which has been about the worst I have ever seen from them.
in their defence, remember it isn't just the kind of people who come here who buy apple devices... it's grandmas and non-computer savvy nouveau rich. the vast majority of apple's customers probably have no idea what we're talking about. i think our use case is very niche and you'd hope anyone savvy enough to need a solution would be savvy enough to find it.
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and you didn't get the ipa from, say, a family member? is google maps in your purchase history? ios and itunes both update apps purchased by a different apple id as long as it is available in the same country as the active apple id, but configurator 2 will not.
I think the fact you had downloaded the updates locally but not transferred them across may have confused matters in this case... it doesn't work like that usually. sorry for the long explanation below but only the full story will illustrate things properly:
I have two apple ids. One for all purchases since I moved to china, and one from back home which I used from, like, 2008 or so. some apps aren't available in china but i still need/want them (mostly a vpn, banking apps etc, in addition to duet display which i don't want to pay for again). my workflow involved having a second user account, and itunes logged into that account. the 10 apps i wanted, were downloaded locally (and these were the only apps i had locally, out of 100s bought). I would then use home sharing to import the apps to my main itunes library, and transfer the apps across to my iphone. for whatever reason (bad luck and forgetfulness, mostly i guess) i hadn't done this for months... i was planning on doing it late this week. the last time i had updated any of these apps was 21 june 2017.
the apps - in their older forms - still resided on my iphone. every app i want which is available on the chinese app store has been kept up to date, but the aforementioned apps aren't available and this had not updated since i last manually did so through itunes. I don't care to switch itunes accounts on my phone after the headaches that has caused me wrt apple music in the past (and having to re-download my entire library). so that was the situation. as an example, i have the .ipa in my mobile applications folder for BBC Sport 1.14.0, the latest version as of 21 june.
when i first used configurator 2 i signed into the "back home" itunes account (because i've been letting ios keep my apps up to date where it can, i have no need to use configurator 2 for my china account) and was presented with updates for 6 of the apps on my iphone - all of which were apps which were unavailable in China and thus ignored by iOS. I did the updates, and now I have BBC Sport 1.16.1 on my phone (along with an updated VPN app, banking apps etc).
If I go to "add apps" it shows every app I have purchased, ever, on that account including apps which AFAIK aren't even in the app store anymore such as FlightControl. I haven't tried to install these, but I can assure you that the list is (or is supposed to be) populated with apps from your purchase history and not from your local mobile apps folder. there are hundreds of apps on the list and they are definitely not locally stored anywhere on my computer.
re: the updated apps for anyone still reading, they didn't touch the copies of the apps still stored in /Mobile Applications. I still have BBC Sport 1.14.0.ipa in there, despite both my phone containing 1.16.1 and the option to add BBC sport to another device saying the version is 1.16.1.
If something has gone wrong in your specific case... it'd be good to find out what.
Opportunity knocks for Mac App Store (and non App Store) developers to take up the slack left by Apple's decision to lighten the iTunes bloat.
App updating & Syncing to iOS devices, Custom Ringtone creation and syncing to iOS devices, iBooks management (on iTunes for Windows) etc seem pretty high on the list of must-haves for many, judging by the comments on the various forums regarding the upcoming changes. I predict a lot of people. like me, are going to hold off on the 12.7 upgrade until their "Plan B" options are clearer and feasible.
App updating & Syncing to iOS devices, Custom Ringtone creation and syncing to iOS devices, iBooks management (on iTunes for Windows) etc seem pretty high on the list of must-haves for many, judging by the comments on the various forums regarding the upcoming changes. I predict a lot of people. like me, are going to hold off on the 12.7 upgrade until their "Plan B" options are clearer and feasible.
Hopefully because they don't want to be like amazon and remove paid apps from your computer without permission? At least we can side load all the previously downloaded apps to our devices by dragging them from a finder window onto the iDevice in the iTunes window...
Nope still no. The software will continue to work, or did everyone with Windows XP suddenly lose the ability to use the OS when Microsoft dropped support? Are you able to still run Lion? The whole point is that once an app is dropped from the app store, your purchase becomes a donation.
Yep, still yep. The apps that are removed from the app store still work until you uninstall them or change the OS in some way. I have an ipad with Flight Control HD on it still. Its exactly the same situation.