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Uh, actually a 128kbps song is around 8MB and a 320kbps song is around 10MB. So it's not even close to half, but you lose a lot more than half the quality.

I just selected the tick box and re-sync'd and the space taken by my music reduced from 12.77GB down to 5.4GB. The looks like more than half to me.
 
Anybody else kinda annoyed that on MacOSX 10.6.3 we're having to reboot after installing iTunes? That really does not make any sense to me. It's reminiscent of MicroSoft.
 
My PC Itunes Update, no problems, it took a long time to update the library, but it finished. My Snow Leopard Mini was still hung with a Spinnig Beachball this morning when I force quit it, I'll have to look at it tonight. My Mini's Library is just the same as the PC 's except its from drives connected to the PC.
 
Books coming to iPhone and iPod?

Check this out. I added a ePub book to the new version of iTunes, then went to Books, saw the book and then tried to delete it from my Library. Check out the warning message.
 

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Anybody else kinda annoyed that on MacOSX 10.6.3 we're having to reboot after installing iTunes? That really does not make any sense to me. It's reminiscent of MicroSoft.

Did you do the 10.6.3 update or the 10.5 Security update at the same time? That would be where your reboot came from.
 
Anybody else kinda annoyed that on MacOSX 10.6.3 we're having to reboot after installing iTunes? That really does not make any sense to me. It's reminiscent of MicroSoft.

on 10.4.11 and Windows 7 i didn't have to reboot
 
Well after a LONG wait to convert all my music I appear to be up and running normally. No issues other than that syncing seems to really bog my machine down now for about 15-20 seconds. Possibly due to the "convert" option.
 
Check this out. I added a ePub book to the new version of iTunes, then went to Books, saw the book and then tried to delete it from my Library. Check out the warning message.

I don't know if this a generic, catch-all prompt, but maybe books will sync with iPhones.
 
Is the Audio chip in the iPhone/iPod touch that bad that you won't be able to tell the difference between 128kbps and higher cos i personally can...even more so when i attempt to play these tracks on other phones like the Pre/Hero/BlackBerry
 
Is the Audio chip in the iPhone/iPod touch that bad that you won't be able to tell the difference between 128kbps and higher cos i personally can...even more so when i attempt to play these tracks on other phones like the Pre/Hero/BlackBerry

I personally feel like I can tell the difference, however, I only use my iPhone as an iPod when walking around or on the rare occasion where I don't have my laptop in front of me, so there's usually sufficient ambient noise such that I'd rather have all my music available on my phone than selected tracks at higher quality.
 
I like the option of converting high bitrate audio to a lower bitrate for iPhone/iPod/iPad playback, but I really wish they would have let us set the target bitrate. I would use the feature if I could convert my lossless soundtracks to 256kbps AAC.
 
Check this out. I added a ePub book to the new version of iTunes, then went to Books, saw the book and then tried to delete it from my Library. Check out the warning message.

Try doing the same with an audiobook. If the same message is displayed then I think it's a catch-all prompt for "Books" which now includes ebooks AND audiobooks.
 
The auto-convert option was available for the iPod Shuffle for years, really glad its made its way to proper iPods too. Most of my music is 320kbps AAC so I'd get a lot more capacity back after my next sync :).
 
The lossless > lossy arguments are really for another thread. The bigger picture here is that apple is locking us into 128 kbps and not giving us the choice as to what bit rate we'd like to down sample.

I'm all for this feature, don't get me wrong. I use it now with my shuffle and it's great. Just wish I could choose what bit rate I wanted without creating a whole new library of different bit rated songs. I did that and it sucked...

I agree entirely, the fact is, what bit-rate you want is entirely dependent on personal taste and what compromise you'd be willing to make to store more music on a device with limited space. I imagine even the most picky audiophiles would willingly "downgrade" to 320 kbps AAC over apple lossless for their iPods.

The only real problem I see is that, for some reason unknown to me, AAC files tend to be larger than mp3 files at the same bitrate. At 128 kbps the size difference is negligible, but at higher bitrates the disparity approaches a 10-20% larger file. This means re-encoding mp3 files to a smaller bitrate in AAC could actually increase the filesize negating the point of re-encoding while introducing artifacts. It'll only occur when the original bitrate of the mp3 is close to the target bitrate of the AAC, but means apple would have to develop a way to deal it. They should introduce a cutoff where iTunes wouldn't re-encode for a file within, lets say, 30 kbps of the target bitrate. This also avoids "lossy to lossy" artifacts as it's effects are particularly noticeable when the re-encoding at a near same bitrate.
 
After installing the new version of the iTunes VoiceOver framework, iTunes updated all of the voiceover entries on my iPod Shuffle. The updated entries didn't sound at all different.

Likewise when I then tried a few tracks in German, I also couldn't tell any difference.
 
Converting 14000 lossless tracks to AAC. iMac i5 worked all night and still was only half way done this morning. I only hope it doesn't need to reconvert every time...
 
Who claimed that iTunes didn't include artwork in the converted files on the iPod? I just checked mine, and both the iTMS purchases and my own added files got their usual artwork. :confused:
 
Perhaps it is locked at 128 for a reason. Time, possibly.

It took the entire night for my phone to re-sync my music last night. Saved me about 3 GBs of space. Incredible. I went from having 450 MB's free to 3.4 GBs without losing any tracks.

Music sounds "good enough" for me as well. I'm very pleased.
 
Converting 14000 lossless tracks to AAC. iMac i5 worked all night and still was only half way done this morning. I only hope it doesn't need to reconvert every time...

It does :D

(Well, not for every time you sync your iPod, of course, but: If you uncheck the option, sync, check it again and sync again, iTunes will have to start from scratch)

Who claimed that iTunes didn't include artwork in the converted files on the iPod? I just checked mine, and both the iTMS purchases and my own added files got their usual artwork. :confused:

I'm claiming the converted songs lose their lyrics metadata
 
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