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Hey, let's not lose sight of what iWeb was intended to do. It is intended to let a first-time web designer get a basic website online very easily. I made my first website ever with iWeb and it was a real thrill to finally have "my" own presence on the 'net. Until iWeb I just didn't have the time or inclination to learn anything more powerful (and I still don't). iWeb achieved its goal perfectly -- it got me publishing my own website in an hour, and it made me very happy to have done so. So come on guys, cut it some slack. You can't edit Avatar with iMovie, publish National Geographic with Pages, or balance the books of Exxon with Numbers. Rather, those programs give an inexperienced user the ability to do some pretty darn cool stuff with relative ease, consistency, and (most importantly) a lack of intimidation. iWeb does exactly what it purports to do, and it does it very well. :apple:
 
Doesn't appear in Software Update

Has anyone had any success in downloading iWeb 3.0.3? All of my Macs have iWeb 3.0.2 and the iWeb 3.0.3 update does not appear when I run Software Update on any of my Macs. :confused:
 
Hoping for iWeb 4.0.

It's good to see that they are fixing some of the persistent problems iWeb 3 has had. The last few updates seem to have cleared up a number of issues with publishing and with blog comments.

In leaving feedback on Apple's site, I was encouraged to see that there were a number of questions that suggested that Apple was looking for input on future iWeb features, so maybe they haven't abandoned it after all.

I've been pleased enough with iWeb 3 that I really don't care if 4.0 has a lot of new features, as long as it stays compatible with the current OS and browsers. I've been using it for over 3 years now (back to iWeb 1), and have generated more than 400 pages so far (http://www.paleolab.org). I emphatically don't want to deal with learning to be proficient with coding (even though I can muddle through when I have to); I just want to be able to get my new pages posted without having to invest a half a day in the process. For that, iWeb has no equal that I'm aware of.
 
I haven't used iWeb in forever. I think Apple needs to open the books and give the app dev teams some love. Except for iTunes most of the Apple apps seem to be 5 years behind the times.

I'd say iTunes is at least as behind the times as any other app, if anything it's an example of how apple does things wrong more than it does things right.
 
Yeah, the example below is where it still shines ....

I think people who need to regularly post and have total control over their content, but who aren't in an industry related to web development or graphic arts, wind up being good candidates for iWeb.

Personally, I really like RapidWeaver and the power you get from it with just a few extra plug-ins. But when all I wanted was a good-looking basic web site, done FAST? iWeb filled the bill better than anything else I could have used.

I work in I.T. myself, and I've built a few corporate web sites for my employer. In those cases, I went with DreamWeaver and hand-edited some javascript and so forth. (They wanted things a program like iWeb simply couldn't offer, like photos of salespeople appearing whenever the mouse was rolled over their names/email addresses on a page.)

But yes, I'd also be sad to see iWeb get discarded completely -- unless Apple plans to roll all of its functionality into other iLife apps?


I LOVE iWeb. I own a real estate company and it's awesome to use! I wish it had more up to date functionality but to be able to control 100% of my content, add all the information about my properties including pictures, video, documents, etc in a simple and typical Apple way, is GREAT! I take video and pictures with my iPhone 4, add them to iPhoto and just do drag and drop into iWeb makes it soooooooo simple and easy. I have a facebook page for my business but it's NOT the same. I need my own website to communicate my message the way I want it and iWeb makes it very simple and uncomplicated.

I want iWeb 4.0 too! Please please please!

It would be great to be able to add in Twitter, Facebook links easily in the widget menu as well as other new and modern apps, some new design and functionality improvements would be awesome!
 
honestly, ive tried the other website creators (sandvox, rapidweaver ect)

and i just like iweb the best by far.....


keep it up apple, 4.0 please please please!!!!! :D
 
I LOVE iWeb. I own a real estate company and it's awesome to use! I wish it had more up to date functionality but to be able to control 100% of my content, add all the information about my properties including pictures, video, documents, etc in a simple and typical Apple way, is GREAT! I take video and pictures with my iPhone 4, add them to iPhoto and just do drag and drop into iWeb makes it soooooooo simple and easy. I have a facebook page for my business but it's NOT the same. I need my own website to communicate my message the way I want it and iWeb makes it very simple and uncomplicated.

Hey, let's not lose sight of what iWeb was intended to do. It is intended to let a first-time web designer get a basic website online very easily. I made my first website ever with iWeb and it was a real thrill to finally have "my" own presence on the 'net. Until iWeb I just didn't have the time or inclination to learn anything more powerful (and I still don't). iWeb achieved its goal perfectly -- it got me publishing my own website in an hour, and it made me very happy to have done so. So come on guys, cut it some slack. You can't edit Avatar with iMovie, publish National Geographic with Pages, or balance the books of Exxon with Numbers. Rather, those programs give an inexperienced user the ability to do some pretty darn cool stuff with relative ease, consistency, and (most importantly) a lack of intimidation.

I think people who need to regularly post and have total control over their content, but who aren't in an industry related to web development or graphic arts, wind up being good candidates for iWeb.

Personally, I really like RapidWeaver and the power you get from it with just a few extra plug-ins. But when all I wanted was a good-looking basic web site, done FAST? iWeb filled the bill better than anything else I could have used.

I work in I.T. myself, and I've built a few corporate web sites for my employer. In those cases, I went with DreamWeaver and hand-edited some javascript and so forth. (They wanted things a program like iWeb simply couldn't offer, like photos of salespeople appearing whenever the mouse was rolled over their names/email addresses on a page.)

All these comments are absolutely spot on. I think Apple should make it a bit clearer exactly who iWeb is aimed for, and what its limits are.

Part of the problem is that iWeb doesn't act as a stepping stone to a more professional, more expensive app in the same way that idvd -> Studio DVD, iMovie -> Final Cut, iPhoto -> Aperture, Garageband -> Logic etc.

Arguably, web development is just as important as movie editing or photo editing, and it's crying out for a neat, professional app that has a junior version as a stepping stone.

An Apple-designed web dev environment on the scale of Final Cut Studio would really be something to see, and could upset a few fruit carts. Some of the dev frameworks for iOS are already well on the way to becoming web dev environments.
 
Hey, let's not lose sight of what iWeb was intended to do. It is intended to let a first-time web designer get a basic website online very easily. I made my first website ever with iWeb and it was a real thrill to finally have "my" own presence on the 'net. Until iWeb I just didn't have the time or inclination to learn anything more powerful (and I still don't). iWeb achieved its goal perfectly -- it got me publishing my own website in an hour, and it made me very happy to have done so. So come on guys, cut it some slack. You can't edit Avatar with iMovie, publish National Geographic with Pages, or balance the books of Exxon with Numbers. Rather, those programs give an inexperienced user the ability to do some pretty darn cool stuff with relative ease, consistency, and (most importantly) a lack of intimidation. iWeb does exactly what it purports to do, and it does it very well. :apple:

You stated this as perfectly as anyone could for people like us.
 
everything - and a whole stack easier.

you gotta try it to appreciate it …

takes a short learning curve to set up and once you're up to speed even changing themes is a breeze.

plus the total upload file size is a far skinnier than iWeb

It does everything that iWeb doesn't do? What doesn't iWeb do? Everything that I need to do on iWeb I can do, easily. I'd have to have a compelling reason -- a need -- to move to another Web page generator, but I don't. Maybe I don't know what I'm missing, so specifics would be a whole lot better than citing "everything." The only specific benefit you pointed to was a far skinnier file upload size. That's nice, but by how much? 25%, 50%?
 
Personally I'd like to see Apple buy GoLive from Adobe (who bought the app when it was called CyberStudio), then release both a more powerful version of iWeb and a Pro version.

As for alternatives, RapidWeaver befuddled me so I opted to investigate WordPress.
 
Sandvox better than iWeb and RapidWeaver

So what makes Sandvox better? I looked at some websites created with it and they don't seem to load any quicker than sites created with iWeb. Both of these are WYSIWYG code generators.

I did a thorough comparison of Sandvox and iWeb a couple of years ago, and found that Sandvox was way better in almost every way. It's been a while since then, so my memory of iWeb is a bit shaky, but here's what I remember:

1. Sandvox sites are ordinary documents, and you can save them where you want, e.g. in the Documents folder or on Dropbox for use on another Mac with Sandvox installed. This avoids confusion with iWeb "Domain" files.

2. Sandvox is more reliable with 2-byte languages. Japanese-language sites created in iWeb often have dead internal links because of a bug with the handling of folders and pages with Japanese-language names, even though iWeb gives them those Japanese-language names by default.

3. Sandvox has an easy-to-understand and very flexible site hierarchy based on "Collections". A blog is a Collection, as is a podcast, as is a photo album. As well as creating pages within Sandvox to populate these Collections, you can also drag in audio or video or photos and Sandvox will handle them intelligently. Note that pages are aware of where they are in the hierarchy, so links to enclosing items and so on are updated automatically and intelligently. I don't remember the details exactly, but in iWeb I remember having to update some of these by hand, in a way that struck me as totally lame.

4. Code injections allow more advanced developers (of whom I am not one) to do more advanced things with their site.

5. Exported sites make sense. I can look through the folder and basically understand what Sandvox has done.

6. Better native themes. This is of course subjective. In fact, my criticism of Sandvox is that the themes are a little too design-intensive, such that if I ever came across a site with the Sleepytime, or Erratic, or Branching Out theme, I would feel that I couldn't really use that theme. Fortunately, some third-party developers are bringing out some more vanilla and adaptable themes.

7. Unlike with iWeb, the developers of Sandvox are identifiable human beings who appear to feel responsible for their product and whom it is possible to persuade to add a feature or take a certain direction.

It would be great if other Sandvox fans could add to or correct the above as appropriate.
 
I did a thorough comparison of Sandvox and iWeb a couple of years ago, and found that Sandvox was way better in almost every way.

6. Better native themes. This is of course subjective. In fact, my criticism of Sandvox is that the themes are a little too design-intensive, such that if I ever came across a site with the Sleepytime, or Erratic, or Branching Out theme, I would feel that I couldn't really use that theme. Fortunately, some third-party developers are bringing out some more vanilla and adaptable themes.

7. Unlike with iWeb, the developers of Sandvox are identifiable human beings who appear to feel responsible for their product and whom it is possible to persuade to add a feature or take a certain direction.

It would be great if other Sandvox fans could add to or correct the above as appropriate.


Jumsoft do some great templates for Sandvox (as well as for pages Numbers and iWeb)

Sandvox people respond by email usually same day if not just about straightaway
 
My understanding was that the web hosting facility offered by .Mac/MobileMe has ceased being provided by Apple - would that explain why iWeb has been more or less ignored for the last couple of years?
 
My understanding was that the web hosting facility offered by .Mac/MobileMe has ceased being provided by Apple - would that explain why iWeb has been more or less ignored for the last couple of years?

Nope, they still host mine! But didn't they get rid of something called FrontPage a couple of years back? I'm not very swotted up in this area.

But yeah, Mobile Me still hosts iWeb websites :)
 
My understanding was that the web hosting facility offered by .Mac/MobileMe has ceased being provided by Apple - would that explain why iWeb has been more or less ignored for the last couple of years?

They still host web sites, but if they didn't that wouldn't explain anything related to iWeb. I also don't understand why you think iWeb has been ignored the last couple of years. They are in version 3, aren't they? I've been using iWeb since the beginning and support two web sites with it. There is nothing I need to do that I can't with iWeb. It's not the tool for everyone, but it's been perfect for me.
 
With iWeb doesn't it make your link www.me.sitename.com instead of www.sitename.com? Thats the only reason I don't use iWeb is because I am under the impression you can't remove that "me" or "apple" instead of just your site name. This true?

I think that may be the case if you publish your website MobileMe. You can publish your website made with iWeb through any hosting service using FTP. I use a different hosting service for the two sites I publish and bought the domain names through them. No ".me" in either of them.
 
Iweb 3.0.4 is now out......just an FYI.

:cool:

I've already moved on from iWeb, since Apple is going to abandon it. Based on the recommendations of some others here, I use Sandvox. I'm pretty happy with it and am pleased that the publisher issues significant updates, bringing even more features to a product that they care about..
 
I've already moved on from iWeb, since Apple is going to abandon it. Based on the recommendations of some others here, I use Sandvox. I'm pretty happy with it and am pleased that the publisher issues significant updates, bringing even more features to a product that they care about..

I trying to get into sandvox but still cant get away from iweb. maybe im just really bitter and refuse to move on..... :eek:

let me ask this question, if apple abandoned it why are they still doing updates? Is that normal?
 
The latest update removes the ability to publish newly-created sites to MobileMe. (Older sites that were already going there still retain the ability.)

iWeb is not available for sale on the App Store, and is not shipped on new Lion-equipped Macs. It has been discontinued. As has iDVD.
 
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