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Great comments Applemark. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Totally agree and well said. :)
 
I can count off a half-dozen people I know right now that have the iPhone 6s/6s+ and don't even have iTunes installed on their computers. The phone works just fine. So it's hardly a "requirement" for most people. Syncing to computers is very much a minority practice for smartphone users these days.
Except, launch day 6s shipped with the crippled iOS 9.0 where it would not even boot into iOS...
Also, it would be greatly appreciated if I can be enlightened on how to restore the data from my 5s to the 6s without using iTunes.
 
Also, it would be greatly appreciated if I can be enlightened on how to restore the data from my 5s to the 6s without using iTunes.
My backup is in iCloud, so the data is restored OTA. For most people I know, that backup is all they use the 5 gigs of free iCloud storage for. It's pretty convenient, you should look into it.
 
My backup is in iCloud, so the data is restored OTA. For most people I know, that backup is all they use the 5 gigs of free iCloud storage for. It's pretty convenient, you should look into it.

Perhaps you need to go out and meet more productive people then in that case.

The fact that you think that everybody who owns an iPhone has access to an internet service at all times fast enough and reliable enough to be able to [rely on] back-up and restore their phone from iCloud says it all.

One size does not fit all.
 
Perhaps you need to go out and meet more productive people then in that case.

The fact that you think that everybody who owns an iPhone has access to an internet service at all times fast enough and reliable enough to be able to [rely on] back-up and restore their phone from iCloud says it all.

One size does not fit all.
I don't know if it's possible to gather statistics on this, but I would be stunned if more than 10% of all iPhone users have ever actually plugged their phone into a computer. If you've got numbers to suggest otherwise, I'd love to see them.

Also, I did a restore over spotty 3G one time. It took forever, but it worked. If you've got a data plan, a pretty good assumption if you have an iPhone, then you've got semi-reliable internet at least part of the time. And sure, there's data caps to worry about, but how often to most people restore their phone from a backup? I'd suspect most only ever do it once, when they set the thing up.

Which usually happens at a carrier store or someplace like Best Buy, where you might be lucky enough to use their wifi. So there's that, too.
 
But wow, I really missed the extreme speediness of SL on SSD... None of the post-SL OS X is that fast... Launching de facto OS X apps are instantaneous...
Yep, our Mac Pro 1,1 with an SSD and Snowy still feels (and looks!) like a new machine nearly 10 years on - and can certanly do without innovations like glued-in batteries, desktops with no expansion that can't even play a DVD, and an ugly OS X full of iOS/iCloud stuff that we don't need... :rolleyes:

Anything for 9.2.2 ?!
I heard they're testing OS 9.3 at the moment, hopefully it'll bring the G5 support we've all been waiting for...oh wait, iOS...

By the way 9.2.2 was actually released after Windows XP, yet the latter can run a newer version of iTunes than Snow Leopard can...
 
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My backup is in iCloud, so the data is restored OTA. For most people I know, that backup is all they use the 5 gigs of free iCloud storage for. It's pretty convenient, you should look into it.
Okay, 1 down. Thank you for the info.
But the phone still would not have boot into the iOS without iTunes with the launch day batch.
 
Many music pros keep snow leopard around because of compatability and performance issues. Also a handful of video editors, although most moved to other platforms or finally FCP X.
 
as others have said if only itunes had been updated as well. wonder if i should hold out any hope. have to update my moms imac because she is getting my old 5s.

i think its a crying shame that perfectly fine computers need to be replaced for the sole reason they cant sync an iphone. its just contacts, music, photos and apps. nothing earth shattering
 
Many music pros keep snow leopard around because of compatability and performance issues. Also a handful of video editors, although most moved to other platforms or finally FCP X.

Very true...maybe not as much with FCPX due to lesser restrictions on hardware except thunderbolt, but for musicians and interface hardware, now a days has fewer options if you prefer the old style faders and turning knobs etc. Problem with OS X Snow Leopard (which sucks) is that it is not compatible at all with Logic Pro X.

On OS X Lion, the first version 10.0.0. works if you kept a backup of it. You have to change a command line in the .list file I think to make it work). If you have gear restricted to 32-bit, you can boot in 32-bit mode in OS X Lion and use Logic Pro X 10.0.0. Has some bugs, but workable. Logic Pro 9 and Studio are solid apps, all though the interface graphics is a little dated...but not bad still.
 
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Getting a Snow Leopard update was a bit of a treat after so long, but after I'd updated I noticed lots of ads when using Safari and subsequently discovered that AdBlock had disappeared from my extensions. Odd. I've reinstalled it and sanity has returned.
 
Okay, 1 down. Thank you for the info.
But the phone still would not have boot into the iOS without iTunes with the launch day batch.
True. But that's not a "this device requires iTunes" thing, that's a "this software had a major defect at launch" thing.
 
You are both incorrect. My Mac Mini will not be classified as obsolete for another 6 weeks, but it only came with 1 GB of RAM. Lion requires 2 GB of RAM. Anyone who hasn't upgraded the RAM would be limited to Snow Leopard. (I upgraded the RAM about 2 months ago using an iFixit guide.)

At times you may find that some of your "obsolete" equipment works more reliably than the newest and thinnest. It is not logical, but it is often true.
 
Getting a Snow Leopard update was a bit of a treat after so long, but after I'd updated I noticed lots of ads when using Safari and subsequently discovered that AdBlock had disappeared from my extensions. Odd. I've reinstalled it and sanity has returned.
The app store update and what you're seeing in a browser are in no way related.
 
It's great that you have a definitive knowledge of these things. What will have caused it then?
I'd assume some sort of adware, particularly given how far out of date Safari on 10.6.8 is, but it's effectively impossible to narrow down to a specific change with your browser. The App Store update only changes frameworks related to the App Store, not browsers.
 
To the consumer, the phone does not work right out of the box and needs to get the latest iTunes to get the phone to work.
Exactly. The PHONE doesn't work. It's a problem with software on the phone. iTunes is a hacky work-around in this case. If this were a day-one delivery issue with Android, users would just be SOL until some kind of tethered software update was available.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the monstrosity that is iTunes tethering these days. But in this case the bug was with iOS. The fact that it required a recent version of iTunes to use the work-around isn't the salient point.
 
I'd assume some sort of adware, particularly given how far out of date Safari on 10.6.8 is, but it's effectively impossible to narrow down to a specific change with your browser. The App Store update only changes frameworks related to the App Store, not browsers.

It does seem an odd coincidence that AdBlock disappeared from my Safari Extensions after I'd downloaded the first OS Snow Leopard update in quite some time. Is there any possibility at all of a link? Some unforeseen and generally unlikely but not impossible consequence?
 
It does seem an odd coincidence that AdBlock disappeared from my Safari Extensions after I'd downloaded the first OS Snow Leopard update in quite some time. Is there any possibility at all of a link? Some unforeseen and generally unlikely but not impossible consequence?
No, there really is not. The update is just a few files that relate to the App Store and the way applications purchased there are signed (validated) by Apple.
You really should not be using Safari anymore with Snow Leopard. It's very outdated and has many unpatched security vulnerabilities.
 
No, there really is not. The update is just a few files that relate to the App Store and the way applications purchased there are signed (validated) by Apple.
You really should not be using Safari anymore with Snow Leopard. It's very outdated and has many unpatched security vulnerabilities.


Yes, I am aware of the weak security aspect of using Snow Leopard and Safari but it was such a great OS for me, and generally remains so. And I still get to use the likes of AppleWorks when I want to, despite it being written for PowerPC, thanks to the Rosetta element of OS 10.6. After Snow Leopard I don't think this is possible. I don't like what Apple did to Pages, either. I'm on an earlier version.

I know I should really do all my Net stuff on my MacBook Air though I'd certainly be happier if Apple threw a few more updates Snow Leopard's way. (Yes, I realise it's never going to happen.)

Thanks for the advice.
 
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Yes, I am aware of the weak security aspect of using Snow Leopard and Safari but it was such a great OS for me, and generally remains so. And I still get to use the likes of AppleWorks when I want to, despite it being written for PowerPC, thanks to the Rosetta element of OS 10.6. After Snow Leopard I don't think this is possible. I don't like what Apple did to Pages, either. I'm on an earlier version.

I know I should really do all my Net stuff on my MacBook Air though I'd certainly be happier if Apple threw a few more updates Snow Leopard's way. (Yes, I realise it's never going to happen.)

Thanks for the advice.

I agree, Snow Leopard is one of the best OS X versions Apple has released. I would prefer that Apple would take notice of it for the OS development, fast and lean is what I prefer in OS instead of pointless features, idiotic bugs (Time Machine, Spotlight etc.) and more bloat.

I keep 10.6.8 installed on my old iMac for occasional AppleWorks use, iWork 09 was promising but all later iWork versions are POS and I keep using 09 as long as possible. When using 10.6.8 I keep internet disabled as a precaution.
 
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