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Yep, our Mac Pro 1,1 with an SSD and Snowy still feels (and looks!) like a new machine nearly 10 years on - and can certanly do without innovations like glued-in batteries, desktops with no expansion that can't even play a DVD, and an ugly OS X full of iOS/iCloud stuff that we don't need... :rolleyes:


I heard they're testing OS 9.3 at the moment, hopefully it'll bring the G5 support we've all been waiting for...oh wait, iOS...

By the way 9.2.2 was actually released after Windows XP, yet the latter can run a newer version of iTunes than Snow Leopard can...


Sooooooo true. I put an SSD and upgrade my RAM to 16 GB in my MacBook Pro 2010 and it flys! I see myself using that machine more and more lately then my other macs. Built in DVD player with all the different ports...decent screen...so convenient. Able to change parts if I wanted to, including the battery, a plus.

Snow Leopard flys on it!! Have OS X Yosemite on one partition and OS X Snow Leopard on another. Best of both worlds.
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At times you may find that some of your "obsolete" equipment works more reliably than the newest and thinnest. It is not logical, but it is often true.

I have also learned that unfortunately is true....

The theory is that "Newer" is better. In the old days when technology was on the rise,"Yes". But, now...we see basically just "convienient" features or attempts on improvement instead of "needed" prime features.

Though I have newer equipment and computers, I have had to go back to older technology that "Just works" lately, especially in the video and music creation applications and hardware. Too much "bells and whistles" lately in software and gear just to try to sell more instead of solid workable products. Keeps the machine going instead of "changing the world" or "The Best Possible Product" that lasts for about five years like before.

Apple did not make their money lately by creating the "Best" at the time. They created the "desire" to want more by making products that have everything except...what is in next year's model (or resently the next model in six months) that they could have produced now. Keeps people buying each year and fills up the landfills, but hey...they made a lot of money and I guess that is what it really means to be successful and you have "done well".
 
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I agree, Snow Leopard is one of the best OS X versions Apple has released. I would prefer that Apple would take notice of it for the OS development, fast and lean is what I prefer in OS instead of pointless features, idiotic bugs (Time Machine, Spotlight etc.) and more bloat.

I keep 10.6.8 installed on my old iMac for occasional AppleWorks use, iWork 09 was promising but all later iWork versions are POS and I keep using 09 as long as possible. When using 10.6.8 I keep internet disabled as a precaution.


I'm currently using Pages 4.1. I like the floating palettes (Inspector etc). Tried the latest version and my workflow was thoroughly disrupted. I know familiarity eases the pain of the new but still... I was never keen on the way Apple began to make the computer experience more akin to using a smartphone or tablet either. Bells and whistles are no good to me. A good, solid work tool is. Snow Leopard fitted the bill perfectly. I don't play on Facebook, squander time on YouTube (very much) and don't own a smartphone. I do own several encyclopaedias.

I can't remain on Snow Leopard forever but my comfort with and respect for the user-experience keeps me there for now.
 
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Exactly. The PHONE doesn't work. It's a problem with software on the phone. iTunes is a hacky work-around in this case. If this were a day-one delivery issue with Android, users would just be SOL until some kind of tethered software update was available.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the monstrosity that is iTunes tethering these days. But in this case the bug was with iOS. The fact that it required a recent version of iTunes to use the work-around isn't the salient point.
To a common consumer, the phone does not work right out of the box, caused the consumer to download the latest iTunes and found out it was not available for Snow Leopard but available for Windows 7; hence making said customer to go through the whole hell to get the horrible experience of Yosemite. That is what had happened.
 
To a common consumer, the phone does not work right out of the box, caused the consumer to download the latest iTunes and found out it was not available for Snow Leopard but available for Windows 7; hence making said customer to go through the whole hell to get the horrible experience of Yosemite. That is what had happened.
Okay, this conversation has diverged to the point where you just suggested that the "common consumer" is still using Snow Leopard.

So this has gotten pretty weird.

But I'll finish by pointing out that this is what happened to YOU, and I think you'll find you're hardly a common consumer. Most people that faced this issue probably discovered their phone didn't work right out of the box and immediately took it to their cell-provider's store, an Apple store or authorized retailer, or already had the latest version of OS X and iTunes on their computer.

I understand that this is not how it worked out for you. I get that. I'm sorry that you had to upgrade your OS to fix your phone. But the issue was still a bug with the software on the phone. The fact you were still running Snow Leopard really has nothing to do with the primary source of the problem. And I'm honestly a little surprised that you're so upset that Apple required you to update to Yosemite to get the latest version of iTunes, but are totally okay with them shipping a phone that wouldn't let you activate it when you got it without having to be tethered to iTunes in the first place.

Like I said, we've ended up in a strange place with this one.
 
Okay, this conversation has diverged to the point where you just suggested that the "common consumer" is still using Snow Leopard.

So this has gotten pretty weird.

But I'll finish by pointing out that this is what happened to YOU, and I think you'll find you're hardly a common consumer. Most people that faced this issue probably discovered their phone didn't work right out of the box and immediately took it to their cell-provider's store, an Apple store or authorized retailer, or already had the latest version of OS X and iTunes on their computer.

I understand that this is not how it worked out for you. I get that. I'm sorry that you had to upgrade your OS to fix your phone. But the issue was still a bug with the software on the phone. The fact you were still running Snow Leopard really has nothing to do with the primary source of the problem. And I'm honestly a little surprised that you're so upset that Apple required you to update to Yosemite to get the latest version of iTunes, but are totally okay with them shipping a phone that wouldn't let you activate it when you got it without having to be tethered to iTunes in the first place.

Like I said, we've ended up in a strange place with this one.

A common consumer can still be on Snow Leopard easily.

The consumer does not need to go to the App Store and therefore would not notice the newer OS. The consumer has no interest in the hassle with the OS update. Or the consumer simply ignores all those push notifications. All of these are possible scenarios.
The phone was launched on Friday and people do need to work to pay for the phone; thus getting the phone from the Apple store after work was a likely scenario.
In my case, the phone was activated at the store like a new phone and nothing seems wrong until I tried to restore it from a backup where it simply went in the loop. I honestly do not remember all the details at this point when considering that I had to stay up all night to get the iMac from Snow Leopard to Yosemite along with dealing with the iPhone's restore.
Ultimately, it was quite an underhand for Apple to get a consumer off from Snow Leopard when it was one of the greatest OS.
All that I can say is I guess I was in pretty crappy luck with that one...
 
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