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Samba was working fine until some of the last Fedora 10 updates. No extra configuration needed. It just ... worked. I doesnt even work on Fedora 12/9.10/SuSE11.2. (Im particularily supprised at Conincal and Novell. RedHat is known for breaking stuff for the sake of bleeding edge.)

Its like Linux devs, once they have a Stable build of a product they just have to kill the next update.

Like the KDE4 problems were udnerstandable because it was completely new code and a new coding API. But a point update shouldnt kill X or soemthing. Oh and ATi and nVidia still dont fully support the latest versions of X.

I believe Samba 4 is fixing most of the Unicode/Filename problems. But the Dev said they were going to fix the code they have now.

Yea, that's very strange thing with Linux. They like to outdo themselves, only to mess things up.
 
I wonder if the new Nvidia driver snafus (where the new windows driver is turning off fans thus killing the cards) are causing delays in the .3 roll out?
 
The iPad is going to require iTunes support. Since I highly doubt the current version, 9.0, includes this, 9.1 will be released on April 3rd.
I would also put my money on Apple requiring that iTunes 9.1 run on either 10.4.11, 10.5.8, or 10.6.3 ( or that '7' thing :rolleyes:).

Would love to see 10.6.3 released this week along with new MBPs.

Also, Apple doesn't like to roll out new products close to one another. We won't see an updated MBP '10 the week before or after April 3. If it's soon, they'll unveil it this tuesday. If not, it won't be out until the end of April. On the other hand, could this be why they chose April 3? So there would be enough time between this week's launch of new MBPs and the iPad?

Pretty sure iTunes has required at least 10.4.11 since v8. As for Windows 7, it would be nice if they put in a bit of an effort with iTunes like they did with Safari in 4; iTunes just ain't nice in Windows. QuickTime X would be nice while they're at it ... never thought I'd say that!

I'm also wondering about timing at this point. I think we're expecting quite an announcement on MBPs; if it were a tock update maybe they could put it through quietly without worrying much, but as it is, if the updates don't come this week I'd say they'll be post-iPad, despite what the buyer's guide will be saying by then :).
 
Pretty sure iTunes has required at least 10.4.11 since v8. As for Windows 7, it would be nice if they put in a bit of an effort with iTunes like they did with Safari in 4; iTunes just ain't nice in Windows. QuickTime X would be nice while they're at it ... never thought I'd say that!

I'm also wondering about timing at this point. I think we're expecting quite an announcement on MBPs; if it were a tock update maybe they could put it through quietly without worrying much, but as it is, if the updates don't come this week I'd say they'll be post-iPad, despite what the buyer's guide will be saying by then :).

Well, we know it needs to hit before April before Steam and the Valve games arrive. And I would think Apple would want to get it out sooner than that for widespread testing.
 
Btw Finder is much much faster in 10.6.3. The multiple folder open/close in list view is as fast as Leopard finally. Folder view still is slow though. They definitely did lots of tweaks to Finder in this build.
 
Although I haven't encountered any really disastrous bugs myself, the fact is that I've encountered a fair number and Apple have failed to release an update to resolve any of them in this time. Why didn't they just issue an update featuring what they'd addressed so far a couple of months ago? Why didn't they recognise that the time required to do everything they'd set out to do was unrealistic and divide it into two smaller updates? There's a lot of bug fixes coming in .3, I find it hard to believe that a decent number of those issues could not have been released a couple of months ago.
 
Although I haven't encountered any really disastrous bugs myself, the fact is that I've encountered a fair number and Apple have failed to release an update to resolve any of them in this time. Why didn't they just issue an update featuring what they'd addressed so far a couple of months ago? Why didn't they recognise that the time required to do everything they'd set out to do was unrealistic and divide it into two smaller updates? There's a lot of bug fixes coming in .3, I find it hard to believe that a decent number of those issues could not have been released a couple of months ago.

As Apple's market share continues to grow, they're going to have to make some changes to the way they release updates. Companies aren't going to be able to go months with bugs or security holes unpatched.
 
Releasing more frequent and smaller point updates do have advantages but more disadvantages. Releasing more means each of them is going to be tested for a lesser time, meaning the bugs which are going to be introduced in the updates can go live without being seen.
 
I think going with smaller releases would probably be wise at this point. Since there is likely so much effort going in to getting the iPad software in a somewhat ready state, this update just keeps getting delayed further and further. Smaller, more frequent updates require less manpower and fewer beta releases--security updates, in particular, shouldn't face this ad infinitum delay.
 
As Apple's market share continues to grow, they're going to have to make some changes to the way they release updates. Companies aren't going to be able to go months with bugs or security holes unpatched.

A patch process for individual bugs that have serious impact could be possible. I don't expect we'll see point upgrades any more frequently than ~3-4 months though. There's just too much overhead for those.
 
A patch process for individual bugs that have serious impact could be possible. I don't expect we'll see point upgrades any more frequently than ~3-4 months though. There's just too much overhead for those.

Ultimately Apple have a responsibility to their consumers to allocate the resources to make the system stable. Snow Leopard was released eight months ago and still a significant number of people are experiencing issues that seriously affect their use of the machine (I'm one of the lucky ones).

Doubtless, there will be people saying 'Oh well, you should have waited before upgrading then', but that still leaves the people who have bought a new Mac in the last eight months stuck in limbo: they don't have the luxury of rolling back to Leopard.

I'm starting to be concerned that Apple seem to be developing an unhealthy obsession with delivering the latest gimmick at the expense of making sure products already in the hands of consumers are of sufficient quality. Macintosh has made massive inroads into the consumer market, but they've been the dominant force in most media related design activities for a long time. If they're not prepared to provide the resources to meet those standards then I would be very grateful if they'd consider selling the Macintosh arm of the company and concentrate on being the toy-makers that they clearly want to be.
 
I'm starting to be concerned that Apple seem to be developing an unhealthy obsession with delivering the latest gimmick at the expense of making sure products already in the hands of consumers are of sufficient quality. Macintosh has made massive inroads into the consumer market, but they've been the dominant force in most media related design activities for a long time. If they're not prepared to provide the resources to meet those standards then I would be very grateful if they'd consider selling the Macintosh arm of the company and concentrate on being the toy-makers that they clearly want to be.

Many of us would prefer that Apple put more emphasis on their Mac products again instead of the latest cool toy. But obviously that is not the priority of Mr. "the iPad is one of the most important things I've ever done" CEO.
 
Many of us would prefer that Apple put more emphasis on their Mac products again instead of the latest cool toy. But obviously that is not the priority of Mr. "the iPad is one of the most important things I've ever done" CEO.

Well, I guess until someone develops a professional grade video editing system for Linux my alternatives are somewhat limited.

Fancy building a good quality FreeBSD based OS, Adobe? Or Microsoft, don't really care who it is if it can do the job.
 
Soooooooo, are we due for yet another seed or will Apple finally release 10.6.3?
 
It will be a while because Apple is busy with the iPad release. However they might have iPad stuff (like new iTunes) and might release it right before April 3rd.

I highly doubt the seeds are being pushed out farther out because of iPad, I am sure Apple isn't putting the entire company on hold just for the iPad.
 
I highly doubt the seeds are being pushed out farther out because of iPad, I am sure Apple isn't putting the entire company on hold just for the iPad.

Definitely not, it would just be preposterous. I don't think they will delay it for another couple of weeks - should be out within a week imo.
 
Then why the delay on new Mac Pro and Mac Book Pros? I stand by my first statement.

A sub-point update to OS X is a lot different from new hardware, which, by the way, we have no way of knowing whether the iPad launch has anything to do with the delay.
 
Then why the delay on new Mac Pro and Mac Book Pros? I stand by my first statement.

Delay? Apple doesn't have a pattern to their hardware release schedule, not to mention as long as they don't announce release dates or even mention the possibility, there are no delays. But that's just semantics.

What exactly do they have to hold the 10.6.3 for? They can easily release 10.6.3 a month or two ago, and do an immediate 10.6.4 release for new Mac hardwares and compatibility with the new iTunes and iPad.

Assumptions are not facts.
 
Delay? Apple doesn't have a pattern to their hardware release schedule, not to mention as long as they don't announce release dates or even mention the possibility, there are no delays. But that's just semantics.

What exactly do they have to hold the 10.6.3 for? They can easily release 10.6.3 a month or two ago, and do an immediate 10.6.4 release for new Mac hardwares and compatibility with the new iTunes and iPad.

Assumptions are not facts.

I've had the impression in the past that updates seems to come in clusters. The fact that Safari was updated yesterday makes me hopeful that it really could be any day.

Could be wrong though.
 
I've had the impression in the past that updates seems to come in clusters. The fact that Safari was updated yesterday makes me hopeful that it really could be any day.

Could be wrong though.

Apple releases the updates any time it is ready to go and whenever it fits with the hardware as well as any other software updates. There's usually a cluster, but not always.
 
any news on a new seed??? after all, we are overdue on either a new seed or the official release....

Carmine
 
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