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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.4

jzuena said:
Any word on the SMB read/write issue being fixed? I have been seeing that one as well.
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Well... I hate to be a party pooper but... yes and no. Yes, you can write files via SMB now, but holy smoke is it slow. I tried to copy a 2.9 GB file from my MBP to my QNAP NAS drive. With OS X via AFP it took mere minutes, with Windows via SMB it took mere minutes, with OS X via SMB it took... well I don't know because I eventually stopped it, but the estimate was 1 hour. Tried both ethernet and wireless. Tried rebooting both the Mac and the NAS. No difference. After a few MB it grinds to a halt. It was never like this before SMB was broken in 10.6.3 (some say 10.6.2 but I never had write problems until after installing 10.6.3).
 
MorphingDragon said:
Work gave me a sonicwall Firewall/Wireless for the VPN. :rolleyes:

Awesomely stable though. Thanks for the tip on the Apple one though. I didn't know how stable they were and couldn't find any reviews under heavy usage.
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The old UFO style ones were horrible, but the latest Airport Extreme of late 2009 and early 2010 models are really rock solid - at the end of the day though if one is surrounded by idiots who don't specify an exact channel then you're going to find that their router jumps all over the show with each reboot. I had to do some hunting when I set up this one to find where everyone was then settle on a channel that doesn't conflict with anyone else.
 
Seems faster

Upgraded to 10.6.4 on the latest Macbook Pro 17" + Cinema display in dual screen mode. Everything seems a bit faster and smoother. Probably just due to being the first reboot in 2 months ;)
 
underwater said:
Upgraded to 10.6.4 on the latest Macbook Pro 17" + Cinema display in dual screen mode. Everything seems a bit faster and smoother. Probably just due to being the first reboot in 2 months ;)
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U've not updated your mac for about 2 months? huh :) anyway its good time tho.
 
twoodcc said:
glad to see this finally released. i still need to install it
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yea me too - but id rather keep my 62days uptime going haha. love my imac :)

underwater said:
Upgraded to 10.6.4 on the latest Macbook Pro 17" + Cinema display in dual screen mode. Everything seems a bit faster and smoother. Probably just due to being the first reboot in 2 months ;)

kemo said:
U've not updated your mac for about 2 months? huh :) anyway its good time tho.
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woops i guess i havent either. its running just as fast as it was 2 months ago - i dont care. 10.6.2 wouldnt let me get above 30 days! i have 56GB page ins and 35GB page outs lol, do i care? nope. the computer runs perfectly fine, ill put off upgrading until it needs a reboot. i did upgrade to Safari 5 and didnt restart (still great).

my MBP is still on 10.5.8 lol :D
 
Stay away from 10.6.4 if you're on a Macbook Pro

I just updated to 10.6.4 and it bricked my unibody MCP. After the first reboot it got stock on the apple logo and spinning wheel and nothing I did helped until I restored from time machine.
 
hekg said:
I just updated to 10.6.4 and it bricked my unibody MCP. After the first reboot it got stock on the apple logo and spinning wheel and nothing I did helped until I restored from time machine.
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That's something wrong with your specific machine. Me and lots of other people have been running 10.6.4 on MBPs since day one.
 
10.6.4 = Fail

topmounter said:
So does this include any of the "modest gaming improvements" mentioned recently?

I don't see anything in the release notes, but they don't seem too exhaustive.
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Oh my goodness, 10.6.4 is a gaming MESS. No duh Steam came to the Mac recently, I was running 10.6.3 at the time; Portal and Team Fortress 2 installed. They worked reasonably well (settings *lowered* from what Valve recommends for my system) and I could play a game at 58 fps quite comfortably.

So here's the fail part: Yesterday, June 17th, I knew 10.6.4 was out, but hadn't upgraded yet. Around 1:00 PM, I got an email from the Apple Dev center saying that the 2010 WWDC videos were available for free on iTunes U. I was downloading 30GB of video, and was trying to play TF2 - the lag was unbearable. So I quit, let iTunes do its thing for the evening, and started upgrading to 10.6.4 around 11:00 PM. I finished the installer, rebooted my MacBook Pro, and left it for the night.

I come back this morning, June 18th, and tried to play TF2; the graphics were UNBEARABLE. It claimed I was playing at 56 fps - I was clearly playing at around 6 or 7 fps.

I quit TF2, quit Steam, and restarted my Mac, hoping for better performance. It was better, for all of 20 seconds. I quit Steam again, and waited a few hours - around 8:00 PM, I started it up again, to be faced by a Steam Client Update. I let it do the 30MB update, and I'm given a "Steam News" screen. What do I see?

The recent 10.6.4 update from Apple has noticeable performance issues for NVidia graphic chip owners running high performance games.

If you wish to avoid this, you should consider waiting to install the 10.6.4 update until Apple has had the opportunity to address this issue.

Full details of what is contained in the 10.6.4 update can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4150.

If you have already installed this update and believe your graphic performance is affected, please contact Apple support (http://www.apple.com/support/) for details on what to do.
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Looks like all those suckers on OS X who updated to 10.6.4 and play games through Steam are stuck with poor nVidia card performance until Apple can "get around to it" or Valve hacks the GPU drivers.
 
MacintoshKat said:
Oh my goodness, 10.6.4 is a gaming MESS.....
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hmmm. so let me get this straight. you are having a hissy fit ONLY because you cannot play some silly game?? what about the performance improvements that 10.6.4 brings out? or the stability improvements?? or the security patches? or application compatibility? or system resource optimisation/bug improvements? not everything revolves around games - and i think that most people who use their mac as a tool will agree that this upgrade will be a nice addition to stability.

let me explain, when i was on 10.6.2 i couldnt get any more then 30 days uptime. the computer would freeze and force me to restart. now that i have 10.6.3 i havent had to restart in 63 days time. the thing doesnt even go to sleep!

it is steams responsibility to write software that go with the OS, so that they communicate "nicely". they must optimise it accordingly, and it is only a beta/new release too.

system performance from 10.6.0->10.6.1 jumped 1000 points in tests, then another 500 from 10.6.1->10.6.2 AND from 10.6.2->10.6.3. we can assume that the same benefits will roughly be seen from 10.6.3->10.6.4.

sorry for being upfront. ;)
 
DoFoT9 said:
hmmm. so let me get this straight. you are having a hissy fit ONLY because you cannot play some silly game?? ....
sorry for being upfront. ;)
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If an OS update cripples the performance of an application that you run, regardless of its nature, you have every right to be upset and complain on a public forum. You're both consumers and you both pay good money for an OS that can run the apps that you want to run, reliably.
 
THere's no solution in this update for the freezing keyboard issues outlined here (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2161076&start=0&tstart=0), and my apps still have problems staying in their assigned spaces. Not third parties apps, mind you, but Apple's own iTunes will not stay where it's supposed to!

As stable and wonderful as 10.6 has been, these two issues are killers for me because I've had to cut one thing out of my workflow b/c of it (using Show and Autofill with Things) and because I have to drag iTunes back to Space 3 almost every single day.

Maybe in 10.6.5? Here's hoping...
 
Does anybody remember the good old days when Apple, Inc. was called Apple Computer, Inc.? You know, back when they cared about computers and computer software. We are well into the Snow Leopard variant of OS X and Disk Utility still cannot verify/repair permissions cleanly. :rolleyes:

Sloppy work Apple!!

I guess thats what happens when a computer company becomes a mobile devices company. Maybe Nokia will give up on phones and start building computers and writing software. :D
 
CallsignBaron said:
Does anybody remember the good old days when Apple, Inc. was called Apple Computer, Inc.? You know, back when they cared about computers and computer software. We are well into the Snow Leopard variant of OS X and Disk Utility still cannot verify/repair permissions cleanly. :rolleyes:
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Comments like that are stupid, Apple still cares about their computer line. Do you seriously think they would've just updated the Mini or continue to update snow leopard if they were now ignoring macs. :rolleyes: Yes Apple cares about Mac OSX still. I doubt they would've invested all this time into XCode 4, OpenCL, LibDispatch(GCD) just to suddenly kill off Mac OSX. If they ported XCode to say iPad or Windows, then I'd start to worry.

You shouldn't need to do disk repair anymore, not since 10.2. YOu must be doing really really bad things to your computer to even warrant a disk repair anymore.
 
hekg said:
I just updated to 10.6.4 and it bricked my unibody MCP. After the first reboot it got stock on the apple logo and spinning wheel and nothing I did helped until I restored from time machine.
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I was in the same boat as you. I had to reinstall after getting the blue screen with the spinning wheel of death.
 
There's an alert on Steam that 10.6.4 degrades graphic performance on some nVidia cards :-(

Hope Apple fix this soon - in an interim patch, rather than having to wait until 10.6.5.

"The recent 10.6.4 update from Apple has noticeable performance issues for NVidia graphic chip owners running high performance games. If you wish to avoid this, you should consider waiting to install the 10.6.4 update until Apple has had the opportunity to address this issue. Full details of what is contained in the 10.6.4 update can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4150. If you have already installed this update and believe your graphic performance is affected, please contact Apple support (http://www.apple.com/support/) for details on what to do."
 
MorphingDragon said:
You shouldn't need to do disk repair anymore, not since 10.2. YOu must be doing really really bad things to your computer to even warrant a disk repair anymore.
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No matter how "true" that sentiment might be, it doesn't even begin to excuse the embarrassing quantity of fail for which DURP is now famous. [on top of that, generations of Mac users are being trained to ignore suid warnings.]

Your statement also overlooks those cases where folks are experiencing a problem of some sort, and then get further confused or misled by DURP's bogus reportage.

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PS: that list i linked to there hasn't even been updated yet, to include the latest bloopers from the 2010 MacBookProSoftwareUpdate1.3 (which adds these two items to the fray):
"Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/kcproxy"
"usr/libexec/security_authtrampoline"
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Cupertino, we have a situation here.
Original post at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/942691/
Basically, our Mac Pro 2009 single Quad-core 2.66GHz cannot be updated past 10.6.2, kernal panics during update or immediately on reboot.
This machine is essential to our work flow and cannot be easily replaced, so sending it to Apple is a big problem. Any ideas appreciated.
 
Hal Itosis said:
No matter how "true" that sentiment might be, it doesn't even begin to excuse the embarrassing quantity of fail for which DURP is now famous. [on top of that, generations of Mac users are being trained to ignore suid warnings.]

Your statement also overlooks those cases where folks are experiencing a problem of some sort, and then get further confused or misled by DURP's bogus reportage.

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PS: that list i linked to there hasn't even been updated yet, to include the latest bloopers from the 2010 MacBookProSoftwareUpdate1.3 (which adds these two items to the fray):
"Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app/Contents/Resources/kcproxy"
"usr/libexec/security_authtrampoline"
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FIXME: nt kernel missing

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Every disk/partition utility in existence comes up with false meanings, there's a whole entire bloopers book based around such things in linux.
 
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