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Windows DOS/9x to Windows NT, as OS9 is to OSX.....
So, depends what a 'Major' release is. Though I would say each 10.x is a 'Major' release, and X to XI would be a complete rewrite?

I agree. every 10.x is a major update considering the initial proposed timeline of OS X, which Steve said would be 10-15 years.
 
It's a major release. What in my argument would make Windows 98 not a "real update"?..

Because, according to you, Windows 95 -> Windows 98 is just a number change.

Or something.

I'm not sure exactly what your argument is, but I can safely say that Snow Leopard -> Lion is about the same amount of changes as W95 -> W98.

Whatever it is you're saying about one you must also be saying about the other.
 
Are others having trouble getting to the support article with details? I'm curious as to what the IPv6 improvements are.

Well, the support article is equally vague.
I am not sure how we could find out. Maybe OSX supports DHCPv6 now? It was supposed to come with Lion, maybe they also put it into 10.6.8 :confused:
 
So then what's a whole new point release considered? A Major major release? :confused:
Perhaps you've noticed that it's been 10 years since they've changed the so-called "major" version number--so your point is moot. They, apparently, don't do it (for OS X, anyway; compare iOS).

In fact, it will get very interesting should they choose to do so. OS XI? iOS X? (Yeah, I hope not either, but... :))
 
Are you a software developer? Speak for yourself. Apple's numbering schemes don't have to follow any of your rules. Try to think outside of the box.

So then what's a whole new point release considered? A Major major release? :confused:



According to who, Apple? According the majority of software developers/releases, I'm right
 
Just installed on my mbp 2010.. The same thing as before.. I'm just really excited about mac os x lion...
 
Are you a software developer? Speak for yourself. Apple's numbering schemes don't have to follow any of your rules. Try to think outside of the box.

My rules? Hahaha, right...

Because, according to you, Windows 95 -> Windows 98 is just a number change.

Or something.

I'm not sure exactly what your argument is, but I can safely say that Snow Leopard -> Lion is about the same amount of changes as W95 -> W98.

Whatever it is you're saying about one you must also be saying about the other.

What!? That's not what I said at all. I said nothing about number changes, I said point releases

1.0 -> 1.1 is what is considered a point release in the software world
1.1 -> 2.0 is what is considered a major release

Windows 95 -> 98 would be a major release
OS 9 -> OS X would be a major release

Anything less is, well, not a major release regardless of how Apple spins it. I don't know why this is something offensive to all of you, it wasn't an insult. I only brought it up to him because you have less to worry about when it comes to compatibility when you're dealing with point releases, because core components are less likely to change. Just look at what moving from XP to Vista broke, or OS 9 to X
 
I agree that posting pointless bits of info make for more reading for a lot of people, but everyone has the right to do as they please.

Here's what I noticed:
A bit sluggish on restart
Activity Monitor said MDT was using a fair amount of resourced - a guess this is a Mac Defender eradicator so ok with it

No real changes things that still need work:

Watching Perform this Way by Weird Al on You Tube in 720p and fullscreen can't catch up (I have latest version of flash installed and on a 27" iMac i7 so flash is still slow)

In icon view shift clicking does not select a range but acts like command clicking does.

In iCal when you perform the goto date and then type in the date and hit enter the enter command is not recorded but the mouse needs to click on the OK button.

In iCal when you search for something then you change it’s repeating pattern you need to delete your search terms and research for it.

I have a list of first names in Pages. I make a PDF using the built in print to PDF feature then open the PDF and select the list (each one separated by a return) and copy and paste into a spreadsheet. The returns are missing and seems to pick a predetermined length per cell before it wraps to a cell lower. This was fine in 10.5 but not now in 10.6.

When opening a folder from a stack by Command Clicking on it the window size and location isn’t memorized from the last time but rather defaults to another window size and location.

If I notice anything else helpful I'll post it. I hope the switch to Lion goes as smoothly but probably not.
 
I don't know why this is something offensive to all of you, it wasn't an insult.

Apple: Every few years comes out with a new OS with many changes that they charge money for. Offer minor free updates in between.

Microsoft: Every few years comes out with a new OS with many changes that they charge money for. Offer minor free updates in between.


Looks the same to me. I don't care WHAT you call them, the point is they're the same. Call them major, call them points, call them pudding. I don't care. The "offensive" part is that you said Apple's are "not major" and then said that Microsoft's are major.

I don't care what term you use, but to call them different things does sound a lot like an insult to Apple.
 
Well, the support article is equally vague.
I am not sure how we could find out. Maybe OSX supports DHCPv6 now? It was supposed to come with Lion, maybe they also put it into 10.6.8 :confused:

I did a quick poke around the network related preference panes and utilities and couldn't find anything. IPv6 config options are still in advanced under network prefs and automatic/manual are still the only options. Network utility gui for ping/traceroute/etc still is IPv4 only. If anyone finds anything actually different please share.
 
This is a good sign that Lion is coming early July. I am hoping it is available to download in 2 weeks.

I wouldn't read too much into it. 10.6.8 had "no issues" for several weeks now. It got released regardless of Lion's schedule.

BTW, anyone know what the enhancements to the App store actually are? How exactly does it prepare for Lion?
 
Question: to do a clean install of Lion you have to install Snow Leopard first from a disk. Do you then have to upgrade to 10.6.8 before installing Lion, or can you go directly from 10.6.1?
 
Personally, I find posts complaining about other people's posts or post "types" to be lamer than the posts the complainer is complaining about. Such posts tend not to solve the original irritant and instead spawn a meta-discussion about the futility of posting to stop people posting. Then that spawns a discussion about the futility of posting to stop people posting to stop posting. And so on. Metas all the way down. Cheers. :)

...and you're complaining about those posts. :p
 
The "offensive" part is that you said Apple's are "not major" and then said that Microsoft's are major.

I didn't bring up Microsoft, someone else did

But the fact still remains that Apple themselves doesn't think their updates are significant enough to label them as such. They see no problem to changing versions with iOS, so it's not like they don't know the difference
 
those that say this is a minor update. Apple just sucks at release notes, they don't mention the fact that this has significantly newer video drivers then 10.6.7, or even the ones included on the 2011 mac refreshes. The drivers also fix a few bugs in 3d applications/games (why do you think the new final cut pro recommends 10.6.8?

In any case, often apple only mentions small details about an update. I wish they did verbose change logs but they don't even do that in dev seeds anymore, haven't since like 10.5.x days. :(
 
My rules? Hahaha, right...



What!? That's not what I said at all. I said nothing about number changes, I said point releases

1.0 -> 1.1 is what is considered a point release in the software world
1.1 -> 2.0 is what is considered a major release

Windows 95 -> 98 would be a major release
OS 9 -> OS X would be a major release

Anything less is, well, not a major release regardless of how Apple spins it. I don't know why this is something offensive to all of you, it wasn't an insult. I only brought it up to him because you have less to worry about when it comes to compatibility when you're dealing with point releases, because core components are less likely to change. Just look at what moving from XP to Vista broke, or OS 9 to X

Question for you is Windows Vista ---> Windows 7
or Windows 2000 --> Windows XP a

major release?
 
Question: to do a clean install of Lion you have to install Snow Leopard first from a disk. Do you then have to upgrade to 10.6.8 before installing Lion, or can you go directly from 10.6.1?

Since the Mac App Store is not included until 10.6.6...

and you need the Mac App Store to download 10.7...

you do the math.
 
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