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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.6.8

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MrMoore said:
Windows 2000 (Version 5.0)
Windows XP (Version 5.1)
Windows Vista (Version 6.0)
Windows 7 (Version 6.1).

So the only reason XP and 7 are considered major version is the name? According to Microsoft they are only .1 releases.
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This has nothing to do with whether a release is major or minor. (All 4 releases that you mention are "major" - since Microsoft asked for money to upgrade. Service packs are free, and are therefore minor releases.)

The internal version number (5.* and 6.*) are mostly invisible to the user, and are available for privileged software to query the OS to determine the API support. If your driver uses V5.0 APIs, then V5.* is fine. If you use an extension released in V5.2, you'll check for that.

Although I can't imagine finding anyone who doesn't consider Windows 7 to be a major update from Windows Vista, at the privileged API level it was a minor, mostly compatible, update. Therefore, Vista and Windows 7 are both major version 6.

The minor version was updated from .0 to .1 so that software that depended on extensions in Windows 7 could make intelligent decisions. (For example, the installer might check major/minor versions to choose which files to install - or whether to generate an error message and abort.)
 
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KPOM said:
EGOvoruhk said:
My rules? Hahaha, right...



What!? That's not what I said at all. I said nothing about number changes, I said point releases

1.0 -> 1.1 is what is considered a point release in the software world
1.1 -> 2.0 is what is considered a major release

Windows 95 -> 98 would be a major release
OS 9 -> OS X would be a major release

Anything less is, well, not a major release regardless of how Apple spins it. I don't know why this is something offensive to all of you, it wasn't an insult.
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That isn't accurate. Versioning conventions aren't applied consistently, even by the same company. Sometimes a point release is as significant as a new version number.

Windows 95 to 98 was about the same in terms of new features as OS X 10.4 to 10.5. Arguably the leap from 98 to 98SE was as big, even though that was just a point release. 98SE to Me was a new "version number" but was another point release in practical terms.

In general, the jumps between each point release of OS X have been pretty substantial, though not as significant as the leap from OS 9 to OS X. The jump from OS 9 to OS X was about as monumental as the jump from Windows 3.1 to 95, or from 98SE/Me to XP. Those leaps involved new kernels.

XP to Vista was substantial (though it had the same fundamental kernel), but Vista to 7 was about the same as 10.5 to 10.6. If you dig into the command line of Windows 7, you'll see that it's coded as 6.1 (Vista was 6.0). Yet they went with 7 for marketing purposes to distance themselves from the disaster that was Vista.
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Beautifully said. Hopefully he understands now.
 
commander.data said:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4723

Skimming through the security notes, it seems there are quite a few fixes that target only Snow Leopard and not Leopard. For the Leopard only fixes, they tend to note that either Snow Leopard is not affected or already has a fix in place. However, for the Snow Leopard only fixes, they don't mention anything about Leopard. I wonder if this means that Leopard isn't affected or is Apple implying that they are just leaving it unpatched?
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Most likely Leopard isn't affected....BUT, and this is a huge but, given Apple's history this is probably the LAST Leopard security update you will ever see. Any flaws discovered from here on out will be left unpatched....probably. Apple has never made any comments about those kinds of things.

If this is true, this also means that most likely the Leopard security update will be the last PPC binary Apple ever pushes out.

A moment of silence if you please.
 
motulist said:
No, that's the same profiler that's always been there. The new profiler is coming in Lion.
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Sorry I didn't clarify, but I was asking about Thunderbolt showing up in the profiler. Not the System Profiler itself. Thunderbolt didn't show in the profiler in 10.6.7 (just checked my wife's iMac).
 
minchman said:
Beautifully said. Hopefully he understands now.
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Hopefully I understand what? Nothing in his argument said anything about my original statement, which was that 10.7 isn't a major release

All he said was that (some of) the examples, the ones I didn't bring up, also weren't major releases. If anything, he helped my original statement
 
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AidenShaw said:
This has nothing to do with whether a release is major or minor. (All 4 releases that you mention are "major" - since Microsoft asked for money to upgrade. Service packs are free, and are therefore minor releases.)

The internal version number (5.* and 6.*) are mostly invisible to the user, and are available for privileged software to query the OS to determine the API support. If your driver uses V5.0 APIs, then V5.* is fine. If you use an extension released in V5.2, you'll check for that.

Although I can't imagine finding anyone who doesn't consider Windows 7 to be a major update from Windows Vista, at the privileged API level it was a minor, mostly compatible, update. Therefore, Vista and Windows 7 are both major version 6.

The minor version was updated from .0 to .1 so that software that depended on extensions in Windows 7 could make intelligent decisions. (For example, the installer might check major/minor versions to choose which files to install - or whether to generate an error message and abort.)
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It is 2008 all over again.
 
EGOvoruhk said:
Windows 95 -> 98 would be a major release
OS 9 -> OS X would be a major release
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EGOvoruhk said:
Lion is not a major release, it's a point release. A major release would be going from OS 9 -> OS X, or sometime in the near future OS X -> OS XI
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Nope. OS 9 -> OS X is a different operating system. 10.6 -> 10.7 is a major release in the same way that Windows 95 -> 98 is.

I only brought it up to him because you have less to worry about when it comes to compatibility when you're dealing with point releases, because core components are less likely to change.
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It would actually be nice if they were just minor point releases with no compatibility problems. In reality, stuff broke going from 10.4 -> 10.5. More stuff broke going from 10.5 -> 10.6. Going from 10.6 -> 10.7 will have some major breakage, namely all PPC software will stop functioning.

--Eric
 
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I'm not offended and you shouldn't be either.

You don't think it's a major update because of the decimal point is in the wrong place. You're arguing over semantics.
 
I have a Macbook Air with 128gb SSD. After the update System Profiler says TRIM-support: yes.
 
TRIM-Support since 10.6.8 ! :)
 

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minchman said:
You don't think it's a major update because of the decimal point is in the wrong place. You're arguing over semantics.
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It's not in the wrong place. They put it exactly where they meant to. As I said before, Apple does full version upgrades and point releases on iOS, so they know how to do it. They chose not to, for a reason
 
EGOvoruhk said:
Hopefully I understand what? Nothing in his argument said anything about my original statement, which was that 10.6.8 isn't a major release
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Rereading this and your initial post I see your problem. You seem to think that Lion is a codeword for the 10.6.8 update.

It is not. Hope that helps. IHBT. HAND.
 
magz0r said:
I have a Macbook Air with 128gb SSD. After the update System Profiler says TRIM-support: yes.
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Is this a big deal?

APPLE SSD TS128C:

Capacity: 121.33 GB (121,332,826,112 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD TS128C
Revision: CJAA0201
Serial Number: <><><><><><>
Native Command Queuing: No
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: Yes
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
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