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funny that "convicted monopolists" are friendlier to users

Doubtful. Standard anti-competitive practice.

If Microsoft sold hard drives, and Microsoft added code to their OS to only support standard (but optional) SATA commands on hard drives sold by Microsoft - the DOJ and the press would be on them immediately.

Apple, however, with its tiny market share, can do whatever it wants - at least until Apple's customers get fed up.
 

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Rereading this and your initial post I see your problem. You seem to think that Lion is a codeword for the 10.6.8 update.

It is not. Hope that helps. IHBT. HAND.

Whoops, my mistake. I actually meant to put 10.7. All this talk in a thread actually about 10.6.8 is confusing :D
 
Just got a new message from time machine saying that it has to create a new backup, replacing all the past backups, to increase reliability. The only problem with reliability i've had with time machine is in relation to its use of Sparsebundle disk images. Perhaps that's been fixed. That would certainly require a full backup.
 
Although I can't imagine finding anyone who doesn't consider Windows 7 to be a major update from Windows Vista, at the privileged API level it was a minor, mostly compatible, update. Therefore, Vista and Windows 7 are both major version 6.

The minor version was updated from .0 to .1 so that software that depended on extensions in Windows 7 could make intelligent decisions. (For example, the installer might check major/minor versions to choose which files to install - or whether to generate an error message and abort.)

Actually, that was more to make sure that software that checked for version 5 didn't have a hissy fit over a major version number higher than it had been written for, e.g.

if nt_version <>5.x then
don't install
else
install
 
i don't care when Lion comes out because i know it'll be months before i'd be able to touch the thing.

[but the sooner the better, don't get me wrong]

This...kinda. I've never been an early adopter of new software. I like to be comfortable with my software and it seems there is invariably "bugs" that have to be worked out. I'll give it a couple of months to see if I want to upgrade after reading about it here. I want to see how the new changes are fairing before I commit my MBP to it. Heck, I just upgraded my Vista desktop to W7 a couple of months ago.

Those who are not downloading the update, just curious as to why you aren't.

See above...

Jerry
 
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While we are on version numbers, whats up with Chrome and Firefox. Version 12.0.742.100 and 5.0.0 respectively. Seems as if people don't care what a major and minor revision is now. Mozilla are gonna churn up the major numbers too it seems now.
 
problems after upgrading

I guess I am the only one having issues here. After reboot, I was greeted by a message saying my system time is set to before 1990 (or something like that, i don't remember) then 2 pop-ups asking me to allow network access for msDNSreponder and krbkr5 (or something like that, i don't remember). Wifi password gone. opened keychain access, told me Im not authorized to see some of the password (Access to this item is restricted.). Mail keep asking me password for all my email account. Open safari, it told me almost on every website the certificate is expired. I was freaked out. restarted 2 times and a call to applecare finally quiet things down a bit.
 
It's not in the wrong place. They put it exactly where they meant to. As I said before, Apple does full version upgrades and point releases on iOS, so they know how to do it. They chose not to, for a reason

If their reason for choosing this numbering scheme is to confuse people like you, then I buy it. Otherwise, you're exactly right in that they "chose" this naming scheme. They know exactly what they are doing. They have also publicly said Lion is a major release. This argument comes down to you vs. Apple. So by your rules (or convention), I suggest you multiply all future OSX releases by 10. Don't hold your breath for OSXI.
 
Mb pro c2D, updated to 10.6.8, won't boot properly any more. I have tried smc, repair permissions but no go.... Disastrous update for me....
 
It is a surprisingly quiet release.

This is mostly a maintenance / security release. Not all Mac out there are going to go Lion. I can see a lot of first generation Mac Mini's not going Lion and staying Snow Lep as a side machine.
 
I haven't heard about Lion being slow. Where did you hear that?

Ive used it. Snow Leopard is much much better in terms of speed (ram peformance). Also mission control sucks.. regular expose make use of the whole screen. The UI.. dont get me started!
 
I can see a lot of first generation Mac Mini's not going Lion and staying Snow Lep as a side machine.

First generation mac minis have PPC processors, not intel processors, so first gen mac minis are only able to go up to leopard, not even snow leopard.
 
Depends what a 'Major' release is. Though I would say each 10.x is a 'Major' release, and X to XI would be a complete rewrite?

The new standard Apple has set to distinguish between a "major" release and a "complete rewrite" is as follows.

1) a Major release adds new functionality to make things look more like iOS. This would be a 0.1 release like Lion (LaunchPad, swipe to scroll between screens, etc.).

2) a Complete Rewrite on the other hand means that nothing you worked on in the previous version will actually open in the new one. This would be a 1.0 release like Final Cut "Pro". The next complete rewrite of Mac OS, kiss ALL your old OS X files goodbye and start over, because this is the future, man!*

* (Eventually, in a few weeks/months/years, or whenever they're good and ready, they may give you a way to import some of your old documents. But not upon the launch of the OS. )
 
I can no longer adjust my brightness of my late 2009 iMac with a MacBook Pro/XBOX 360/PS3 connected, after updating to 10.6.8. Lame! :(
 
Well, this was the release I was waiting on.

Why, you ask?

Well basically I've been running DP4 of Lion on my internal drive for a few weeks now, and while it's perfectly usable, there's some RAM issues that cause my machine to slow significantly and require a reboot. I'm sure that'll be sorted for the public release, but that's not the point I'm making.

Basically I was waiting on 10.6.8 and the framework update it would bring to support the Lion upgrade from the Mac App Store, biding my time to format my internal drive with Lion on it (from my external running a basic installation of Snow Leopard) and do a full, clean 10.6.8 install on my internal drive in preparation for Lion's arrival on the Mac App Store.

My update came in at 1.09GB which I presume is because I installed 10.6.0 from my Snow Leopard retail DVD and as such required a full set of all updates including 10.6.8 (combo update no doubt).

Nice, quick, painless update. Roll on July and OS X Lion!
 
10.6.8 woes

Okay, what's going on?

I updated to 10.6.8.

Now iTunes will not download iPhone/iPad app updates because I "do not have the privilege to make changes."

I cannot move a folder of old files from a media drive to the trash, "because it can't be deleted"

I am trying to continue what I was doing immediately before the update, but it doesn't work.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

Holly cow I'm getting a kernel panic on startup right after the update... :( will have to troubleshoot after the class -_-
 
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