Yep. I'm not happy I can't use it on my early 2014 MacBook Air. What's the point in limiting it unless there is a specific hardware issue which means it physically wouldn't work..?
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Apple Releases macOS Catalina 10.15.5 With Battery Health Management Features, Fix for Finder Freezing
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Yep. I'm not happy I can't use it on my early 2014 MacBook Air. What's the point in limiting it unless there is a specific hardware issue which means it physically wouldn't work..?
Seriously, this bug pales in comparison with what other people are experiencing with their Macs but still – so annoying. Same thing with how it keeps shuffling my multiple inbox folders. Mail (kinda) worked fine before Catalina…
is this why my 6 year old 13" macbook pro doesn't have the battery management feature show up after the update?
Is anyone still experiencing icons issues? With RAR files for example?
I installed The Unarchiver the icons showed up perfectly.
Once I installed VLC to watch movies the icons shows incorrect with a Blank Page with The Unarchiver logo on it.
From what I've seen in the forums, this is happening with other apps.
See this for example:
https://github.com/aonez/Keka/issues/453
Keka shows wrong as well.
Some people say that PDF files, Excel, also have similar problems with Acrobat...
Is anyone getting this issue?
I installed The Unarchiver the icons showed up perfectly.
Once I installed VLC to watch movies the icons shows incorrect with a Blank Page with The Unarchiver logo on it.
From what I've seen in the forums, this is happening with other apps.
See this for example:
https://github.com/aonez/Keka/issues/453
Keka shows wrong as well.
Some people say that PDF files, Excel, also have similar problems with Acrobat...
Is anyone getting this issue?
haha no. It took me over 6 years to break the old one, and I could've repaired it but decided a new base model Air would be better, and not too much more. Love the Air - surprised that the drop from a 15 to 13" screen stopped being noticeable after a couple of days.Did you get AppleCare+ On your new Mac?
Yes, I am getting exactly the same issue. I reported it Apple, and I was hoping this update would fix it, but it seems it won't do.
Just updated to 10.15.5 using the combo update. All went well. Some were reporting that after they updated their System Preferences were messed up (Shared named reset, Users & Groups unlocked), not seeing this.
There is one thing that I have been chasing though which happened in 10.15.4 and now 10.15.5, every time that I logout and log back in, folders named Recovered Files show up in the trash. It happens with all user accounts. Very strange. Anyone have any experience with this happening to them?
EDIT: Just got done chatting with a senior Apple advisor. The reason why the Recovered Files folder shows up in the trash is because an application can't deleted its temporary files on a unexpected shutdown or restart. It is a known issue with Catalina. But the twist in my situation is that I am logging out and back in so it is not an unpicked situation. I sent the Recovered Files folder up to Apple for them to look at. This is just a minor inconvenience bug.
There is one thing that I have been chasing though which happened in 10.15.4 and now 10.15.5, every time that I logout and log back in, folders named Recovered Files show up in the trash. It happens with all user accounts. Very strange. Anyone have any experience with this happening to them?
EDIT: Just got done chatting with a senior Apple advisor. The reason why the Recovered Files folder shows up in the trash is because an application can't deleted its temporary files on a unexpected shutdown or restart. It is a known issue with Catalina. But the twist in my situation is that I am logging out and back in so it is not an unpicked situation. I sent the Recovered Files folder up to Apple for them to look at. This is just a minor inconvenience bug.
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Still can’t enable safari extensions
Have you tried creating a new user and see if extensions can be enabled from the new user?
I just installed Al-Dente and am running it. I set the Max Battery Charge to 80%. Have the computer charging. It stopped charging at 83% where the battery indicator starts flashing, stops flashing and then goes solid like it reached full charging. Hmmm...
No, a 3gb+ update that took nearly a hour to install/reboot on your 2020 MacBook Pro that fixed a host of security holes, took care of more than a few issues, and added a handful of new features, such as the Battery Health Management.
Not that anyone ever reads changelogs.
A whole lot more codswallop.
For one, you completely fail to understand Apple’s primary user base - NOT people who are interested in writing their own battery maintenance software. Good grief.
Two, Software made by Apple now is not ****. Sure, some of it kinda sucks some of the time. A small amount of it sticks all the time, but most of it, almost all of the time, is still better than Windows - for the vast majority of normal users. Clearly you are not a “normal” user since you like to get into things like coding hardware tweaks. You can’t possibly think that’s typical of Mac users. You are further from Apple’s target market than pretty much anyone else I’ve seen on this forum or anywhere else. So, sure, for you, Apple’s stuff sucks. Fair enough. The question begs, what on earth are you doing here on an Apple forum?
Three, the hugely enormous piece that you seem to miss is that the point of this battery management software is to keep relatively newer batteries healthy. It's virtually impossible for this to be of any use to an older battery - the damage is already done. This is about making currently healthy batteries stay longer. It is virtually useless to older batteries so what point is there in putting in that extra work to make this available to 5+ year old hardware? Further to this point: your “batteries that, if not tended to properly, will fail” misses the point also. Batteries don’t normally just cruise along fine and then suddenly die. They slowly deteriorate.Again, for these older batteries the damage is done. And if you buy a new battery now for that older computer how much longer is that computer going to last? Longer than this second battery? Is a laptop that’s 5+ yrs old now - good battery or not, really going to be worth anything in another four years?
Four, you tout all these impressive sounding words/acronyms like API etc that any decent software developer knows but that’s as far as you go. You demonstrate the knowledge and understanding of a hard core coder, but no understanding of complete software development, QA, testing, refining, and release of a real marketable product. Rest assured it’s a lot more than just a few lines of code for Apple to make this work on anything and I’m sure most of Apple’s users - myself included - would prefer they spend their resources on making today’s stuff work better, not put those resources into the almost entirely futile effort of trying to maintain 5+ year old batteries.
As others here have posted, if you have an old Mac laptop you can get the battery replaced with a brand new one for $129 in most cases. Get over it.
Your posts have expressed your disdain for almost entirely everything Apple - their hardware, software, philosophies, and priorities. So what are you doing here???? Windows and Linux cater to your preferences, priorities, and philosophies so much better than Apple. Why are you here, other than to troll?
Seriously dude... what do you actually use your Mac(s) for? Why do you actually need to hold on to these things for so long?
Bottom line: You’re buying it wrong. Technology keeps rapidly changing. That’s a “fact” if you want to keep throwing “facts” around. These things are simply not designed to keep up with technology for 5+ years. If you want a computer that had today’s features get today’s computer. If you don’t need all the power and performance of today’s pro computers then get a refurbished or 1-2 year old one off eBay for a lot less than a new one.
Computers are generally either consumption devices or work tools. You said you need yours every day, and imply fairly heavy use. That implies work. What work are you doing with it that doesn’t pay for it? It’s like a cab driver complaining that his cab keeps breaking down after it’s got five years and 300,000 miles on it.
Apple is NOT interested in catering to the market of people who want to use five year old hardware. They never have been. Macs have good resale value because they happen to last longer and work well for longer but most people who buy the five year old computers from the rest of us offloading them at that time, understand that they’re getting old tech including old software sometimes.
Your entitled attitude that Apple SHOULD be catering to you and your 5+ yo hardware completely misunderstands Apple’s products, business model, pholosophies, and reason for existing. And don’t be blaming Tim for this. This was the same under Steve as well. And it’s been a recipe for success - for Apple, Apple developers, and Apple customers, the entire time since Steve returned in 1997. If Apple was ever any different it was when they nearly went bankrupt right before that.
Grow up.
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So... shall I pull the plug out of my macbook when it reaches 80% until it depletes to 5% and then charge it up to 80% again? Its always on 100% most of the time as it is plugged in. In past time, the more you deplete your battery and charge i all the way up again kills it faster(battery cycle) and keeping it plugged in at 100% was best IIRc, has this been changed?
Is there a study for how long the battery will last if it is always charged at 100% compared to 80%?
I tend to keep my smartphone 2-3 years, if its not going to be affected in such time frame then I rather use the 100% of the capacity. I don't my battery to last 10 years.
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Definitely not. It's targeted to people who are easily wowed by horse manure like (direct quote from Apple's page "About Optimized Battery Charging on your iPhone"): "Your iPhone uses on-device machine learning to learn your daily charging routine so that Optimized Battery Charging activates only when your iPhone predicts it will be connected to a charger for an extended period of time." Translation: let's pretend that we're managing battery health, but the feature doesn't really work at all (I recall it working for only one night for me ever since installing iOS 13 on launch day), so batteries still die at the exact same rate as before, and it's still too expensive to replace them given how old the hardware is, so guess what? People upgrade on cue as their batteries die!
If I were responsible for this feature, I'd just sync it to the alarm clock. It'd certainly work heaps better than that load of horse manure quoted above.
Who died and made you god to decide who's worthy of using an Apple computer? Do you have some sort of Seinfeld soup nazi complex? What's especially odd is how, on the marketing page for the 16" MBP, three of the quoted benchmarks (Matlab, Mathematica and Xcode) are tools I use daily, and a fourth (NASA/CFD) is not far from the kinds of workloads that I run. I wonder why 1/3 of the quoted benchmarks on that page are directly relevant to my work if they're not trying to sell the computer to someone like me.
You can try to pat yourself in the back all you want, but just go back to the first page of this thread and start reading. See how many different people are complaining about how many different bugs.
Clearly you have zero idea what you are talking about if you think a 5-year old battery can't benefit from battery management. I'm using my app on a 2014 MacBook Air who spent five years kept at 100% charge all the time. I'm confident the battery will last another 3 years, at least, which it certainly wouldn't without battery management. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it lasted 5 years.
I'm sure Apple's QA practices are beyond any reproach, especially today in 2020.
Good thing the Al Dente developer somehow unearthed the relevant SMC key and made it available to everyone. It'd be great if Apple publicized the API rather than trying to hide it at all costs, but it's not surprising that they do.
Heh, it's funny talking to Americans. They can't possibly fathom that things may work differently elsewhere. It's almost as if the world is America.
Where I live, the cost of replacing a MacBook battery is two months of the monthly national minimum wage.
Let's try to frame it in a way you could understand: would your opinion be exactly the same if replacing a battery cost you $1,000? Especially if a simple software fix (which, for all I know, Apple still hasn't implemented, if the macOS implementation is anything like the iPhone optimized charging feature) could easily double the lifespan of the battery?
Truth be told, inertia. I switched way back when Steve Jobs was still alive and Apple had products they were actually proud of and cared about. Currently, if I had to choose which of 2020 Apple or 2020 Microsoft better fit that description, there's no question the right answer is 2020 Microsoft.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Probably because those of us with the older ones don’t have a particular chip that is needed for the feature to work.
I've got 20+ years of email archives too. I've also got this great thing called a backup drive that I use regularly
Like I said, you Americans can't picture that things may be different elsewhere.
I just configured a 16" MacBook Pro with the same config as my 2018 15" MacBook Pro, both in the US store and in my local store. It's 18% cheaper than what I paid for it at the time. In my local store, the 16" MacBook Pro currently costs 2/3 of the price I paid for my brand new car last year (you read that right, it's not a used car, I took it straight out of the dealer). So taking that 18% difference into account, we're talking 80% of the price of a new car. And I expect prices to further increase because of local currency devaluation.
Are you starting to get the picture how some people might need computers to last more than a couple years? Rest assured this is the real situation around most of the world -- America is the exception, not the rule.
It's my personal computer which I bring into work so I don't have to use a 10- or 15-year old PC. Like I said, as an American you wouldn't be able to understand the need to do that. The classic movie scene with an advertising agency office with hundreds of Macs in view is far, far removed from reality in many places of the world.
I'm salaried, I'll make the same at the end of the month whether I use the computer or the 10/15-year old PC, it's just my life would be totally miserable with the PC. So, I use it for work, and work doesn't pay for it. Not impossible after all, right?
Great to see you're confirming my theory of planned obsolescence. Luckily I'm resourceful enough to work around these artificial limits imposed by Apple. Others, though, will just leave the ecosystem.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I have 5 year old hardware -- like I said, I have a 2018 MacBook Pro.
All I'm trying to point out is, Apple is needlessly screwing over the users most likely to be the first in line for upgrades -- I don't think people who just bought a 2020 MacBook Pro is going to be thinking about upgrades so soon. Here's hoping they remember Apple tried to screw them when they could have easily helped them.
It looks like you are, literally, invested in Apple (as in, a stockholder) and you're trying so hard to pretend everything is fine because you, too, see that it's not. From my view, the same people who were switching in droves from PCs to Mac ~10 years ago are looking to switch back (myself included).
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Not true. Similar software works on much older Macs. It's a case of planned obsolescence.
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Nothing changed. Keeping it plugged in at 100% has always been harmful (certainly for Li-Ion/LiPo batteries this has always been true). If anyone ever told you differently, they had no idea what they were talking about.
If all you aspire to is a battery that lasts 2-3 years, then you can do absolutely anything you want with your battery, it'll most likely last that long. We're talking people who want to have a usable (not like-new, usable) battery in 5 years.
Below is from the second crash. And it happened while I was checking mail, MBP was not even sleeping... The first crash happened during sleep.. Those are the two crashes I had since updating to 10.15.5 yesterday.
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