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Apple Releases macOS Catalina 10.15.7 With Fixes for WiFi Bug, 27-Inch iMac Graphics Issues

Seems like it may almost be time to retire the Macbook Pro late 2012. But buy into the last Intels or wait for the switch?
 
No other issues than a odd pause in the screen saver when it shows (2012 Mini)

guess it’s time to buy a new Mac... /sarcasm
 
arefbe said:
I understand, but will this update incorporate it? I tried 14, it's been terrible for me, bad enough to have to switch to Firefox. But by erasing and reinstalling Catalina last Tuesday, it had Safari 13, and things are all right.
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IG88 said:
First-ing? Really? And you weren't even first lol.

I'm gonna speculate that this release probably means Big Sur is still a ways out. Like late Oct or early Nov time frame.
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Nothing wrong with trying to be first!
 
My update didn't go well. It just would not complete the process. To be sure I had a working computer in the morning I elected to do a clean install, use the combo updater, and time machine restore overnight. I had the same problem with the .6 update (supplemental went fine). I'm all good now, but my recent update experience has been similar to that of my my Hackintosh phase...

Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
 
I've been running from my Mojave backup drive this morning. I haven't run it for several months, so it's amazing how much stuff is out of date and needs updating, apps and security updates, etc. I think i've pretty much brought it up to date now, and while it runs slower due to a spinning drive in a usb 3.0 enclosure, once the initial startup is done, it runs pretty smooth.
 
I've been reluctant to upgrade from Mojave to Catalina because of some of the issues with the Music app. In the more recent versions of Catalina are you still unable to manually manage your music when syncing with your Phone?...i.e. drag and drop your music.
 
ManUtd08 said:
I've been reluctant to upgrade from Mojave to Catalina because of some of the issues with the Music app. In the more recent versions of Catalina are you still unable to manually manage your music when syncing with your Phone?...i.e. drag and drop your music.
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If you're asking me, I haven't had issues with syncing music. I don't drag and drop usually though. I just click the checkboxes of what I want in the finder window for the phone. Hasn't failed yet. I typically sync connected by wire because i've always had unreliable results syncing by wifi. Even before Catalina was born.
 
ManUtd08 said:
I've been reluctant to upgrade from Mojave to Catalina because of some of the issues with the Music app. In the more recent versions of Catalina are you still unable to manually manage your music when syncing with your Phone?...i.e. drag and drop your music.
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I really wouldn’t upgrade, unless you want a world of grief for very little upside. See my posting on this thread of Thursday 24 September. I’m about to go through the time-consuming process of downgrading back to Mojave, which is bound to throw up problems, but neither I nor my business I can work with Catalina.

I'm definitely not up for Big Sur’s Fisher-Price kiddie toy UI, which seems riddled with translucent effects – if I wanted a computer that looked like an iPad, I’d buy an iPad.

I’ll be sticking with Mojave until OS BS has had its bugs ironed out (which should be 18 months after release, given the debacle of Catalina).
 
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watakoola said:
Oh! Oh! I can help on this one!

cannot completely empty trash in Mojave - Apple Community

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Have a look at ⁤aaplCore’s suggestion (Post: "Mar 7, 2019 1:46 AM in response to sticky moments")

Start at this point:

DataVaults are folders to which neither the user nor third-party software has any access at all. The only software which can see and work with their contents are certain Apple-signed products which have a specific entitlement to do so.

At this time, the only other method to acquire access to the directory is to turn off SIP (About System Integrity Protection on your Mac - Apple Support)

Reboot your computer into Recovery Mode by holding down Command + R on startup

Open Terminal from the Utilities menu

Run command:

csrutil disable


Reboot your computer

Login

Open Terminal from the Utilities menu

Run command:

sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*


Reboot your computer into Recovery Mode by holding down Command + R on startup

Open Terminal from the Utilities menu

Run command:

csrutil enable

Using ⁤aaplCore’s suggestion was the ONLY way I could get rid of those items in my trash. I hope this works for you.
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Running "csrutil disable" on Catalina worked for me when nothing else did.
 
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JacquesleMac said:
I really wouldn’t upgrade, unless you want a world of grief for very little upside. See my posting on this thread of Thursday 24 September. I’m about to go through the time-consuming process of downgrading back to Mojave, which is bound to throw up problems, but neither I nor my business I can work with Catalina.

I'm definitely not up for Big Sur’s Fisher-Price kiddie toy UI, which seems riddled with translucent effects – if I wanted a computer that looked like an iPad, I’d buy an iPad.

I’ll be sticking with Mojave until OS BS has had its bugs ironed out (which should be 18 months after release, given the debacle of Catalina).
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Thanks for the advice. I'll be sticking with Mojave. I'm just nervous because the Catalina update has appeared in my system preferences. I don't want to accidentally upgrade to a buggy OS.
 
CJ Dorschel said:
God I miss those years. Bertrand Serlet was the head OS X engineer for 10.4 - 10.6 and also headed the Intel transition. Snow Leopard will always be the holy grail of OS X releases.

Apple should return to two year cycles. I remember having to wipe my Mac Pro with each biweekly development release and install each fresh. It allowed for proper debugging by eliminating possible third party apps and plugins from interfering in properly ironing out OS bugs while allowing developers plenty of time to work on their apps. Then Cook wanted to cash in on the Mac App Store by aligning OS X releases to iOS annual cycles to entice more developers and cash in on a new revenue stream with the Mac App Store.

Unfortunately, rushing release cycles lead to more bugs and less polish. I’d rather spend $129 for a proper OS release than free annual system updates that need more time for a proper release, especially as Apple began developing more variants of MacBooks and iMacs and Macbook Air’s and Mac mini’s and Mac Pro’s.

the genius of Jobs was his ability to see simplicity and make it work. When he returned to Apple in the late 90’s he slashed Scully era projects and created the now infamous Quadrant focusing on core products:

Consumer Professional

Laptop iBook/MacBook PowerBook

Desktop eMac/iMac PowerMac/Mac
Pro

simple. No product fragmentation. Reasonably priced systems that balanced form and function perfectly. Jony Ive made his visions come to life and Cook ran the financials. It was the perfect trio.

Now we have three iPhone sizes and each have different features, iPad/iPad mini/iPad Air/iPad Pro 11 and 12, MacBoo Air, MacBook Pro 13/16, mac minis, but only one 27” iMac and a $6000 Mac Pro. Then Apple Watches with endless bands, HomePods, AppleTV and AppleTV 4K, iPod Touch, etc etc etc

I miss the three dedicated displays that ranged from 20”, 23”, and the award winning 30” ACD professionals used that didn’t cost $5999 without a stand.

Then they ditch their airport line instead of moving to mesh systems while pushing harder into streaming services. If 90% of your product line and services depend on wireless networking, why ditch a stellar network product line? Update it or buy out a company producing next gen mesh systems and bring them in house. Add mesh networking into HomePods and AppleTV’s as they’re already HomeKit hubs. Don’t wipe a central product line and sell third party systems that are hit or miss in working with the very products that depend on them to function. I knew Cook had to have made that decision as it‘s very typical of CFO’s to see only what may be and not what can be, thinking primarily about cutting divisions shortterm while not understanding the longterm consequences. Ever since they ditched their AirPort line consumers have had to fend for themselves in finding systems that work with Apple products.

I feared Cook would run Apple like Scully and he is only focused on one thing: stocks and marketshare. Jobs knew to create stellar products first and everything else would follow. He brought Apple out of bankruptcy and paved the way in reshaping numerous markets. Before the iPhone, cellular companies would not allow mobile device manufacturers to run their own software. It had to be Verizons or Sprints. AT&T was the only carrier who agreed to Jobs’ insistence on running iPhoneOS on Apple’s first iphones. After the success, Verizon agreed followed by other carriers and soon Android came out and the days of mobile phones running carrier OS’s became a distant memory.

Jobs was difficult but he knew exactly how to make it work.

How I miss those days.
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Hear Hear. Totally 100% agree.
 
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Steven Lutz said:
Seems like it may almost be time to retire the Macbook Pro late 2012. But buy into the last Intels or wait for the switch?
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I think, it would take sometime (2 years?) to have stable Apple silicon system stable and usable. If you can’t wait 2 years then buy now.
 
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IceStormNG said:
That's fine... if you have that option. People who bought newer Macs cannot use Mojave. I would really like to use Mojave on my 16". Catalina is a mess. It feels pretty much like Windows Vista in its early state.
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Why, People who bought newer Macs cannot use Mojave?

Came
 
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camelia said:
Why, People who bought newer Macs cannot use Mojave?

Came
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Because you cannot install an older OS than the one your Mac was shipped with. For the 16" it's Catalina. Like with the 13" 2020 and the new iMac and also the 2020 Mac Mini. They simply cannot run Mojave. It won't let you install it and even if you did, it would probably not boot and just crash.
 
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IceStormNG said:
Because you cannot install an older OS than the one your Mac was shipped with. For the 16" it's Catalina. Like with the 13" 2020 and the new iMac and also the 2020 Mac Mini. They simply cannot run Mojave. It won't let you install it and even if you did, it would probably not boot and just crash.
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Oh I did not know that :eek:

Thanks

Came
 
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