Apple Releases macOS High Sierra Golden Master Candidate to Developers and Public Beta Testers

App Store downloaded the GM Candidate without reinstalling the utility for me, is an app like a full release not a update
 
Strange. Three days later and still not appearing for me. I have beta updates active and was able to download the Sept 1st beta
 
justperry said:
If you want to install macOS 10.13 GM (this release) you need to reformat back to HFS, it won't allow you to install on an APFS formatted Fusion Drive.
Read through some of the last pages, it's there.
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Yeah, my bad, saw that later. Weird, I've had no issues at all running APFS during the beta. Meh, what a pita. Might just keep the beta running until 10.13.1 beta that will sure resume the APFS testing for fusion drives.
 
devincentis said:
I'm not sure then and that seems odd. You could also just try to do a Recovery Install and see what happens I guess. Here is the info on that: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204904

Or you could just wait till September 25.
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They recovery install it seems has improved performance and the boot time seems normal now howevere, I got thr dreaded folder with question mark again this morning. I decide to try and format back per Apple's instructions and cant get past step #5. Once restarting with the bootable installer as my startup drive, I get a screen that flashes a pic of the mouse basically prompting you to turn it on and pair your devices which it does not. Ive also tried it with a wired mouse with no luck. Ill try again later today.
 
devincentis said:
For whatever Apple doesn't send their GM version via the typical update. Instead, you have to either re-enroll your device into the beta, reinstall the beta profile and install the GM. Or you can simply click copy and paste this to get to it:

macappstores://itunes.apple.com/app/id1209167288
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You gave the wrong link.

Can0nfan said:
I have tried this one and it just goes to black screen and stays there...I have to power off then back on and it recovers back to beta 9
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It's this one :macappstore://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-10-13-seed-1/id1209167288?ls=1&mt=12
 
HenryFSU said:
No update shows up for me yet
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They aren't showing for me either. Still aren't showing 2 days later.
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GaryMumford said:
If your trying to get via software update you will be waiting forever. You have to re download the installer.
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It doesn't work from the installer either. I've downloaded and ran the utility 67 times.
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mikecwest said:
You guys need to re-install the beta profile, and click the link to re-download the full installer from the Mac App Store...It has been posted several times throughout this thread. It should not be too hard to find if you go back a few pages.
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dude, for a lot this isn't working. You keep saying it, but for me, it doesn't work.
 
Jlcollins said:
They aren't showing for me either. Still aren't showing 2 days later.
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It doesn't work from the installer either. I've downloaded and ran the utility 67 times.
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dude, for a lot this isn't working. You keep saying it, but for me, it doesn't work.
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After you download the installer, and it doesn’t work, what exactly happens when you try to open the installer? Does it give you some kind of error?
 
retinaimac said:
They recovery install it seems has improved performance and the boot time seems normal now howevere, I got thr dreaded folder with question mark again this morning. I decide to try and format back per Apple's instructions and cant get past step #5. Once restarting with the bootable installer as my startup drive, I get a screen that flashes a pic of the mouse basically prompting you to turn it on and pair your devices which it does not. Ive also tried it with a wired mouse with no luck. Ill try again later today.
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Same here with the dreaded folder with question mark this morning. I haven't tried to format per Apple's instructions yet as I have 1 TB on my 3 TB fusion drive and would rather not wipe it, despite finally now having a current time machine backup. Please let us know if you have any luck later today. If so, I may give it a go...
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noraa said:
Yup, you read it right :p. I knew Apple was having some issues with Fusion drives and APFS - which is why in early betas fusion drives would be automatically updated to APFS, but that was removed in later betas. In the previous (non-GM) build, you couldn't even convert a fusion drive to APFS after the fact. The only way to get APFS was to wipe your existing fusion drive, recreate and format it as APFS. I did just that, and restored from a Time Machine backup. Everything seemed to be working fine, but there may be a few show stopping bugs that I haven't encountered, forcing Apple to remove the ability to use APFS on fusion drives.

With all that being said, as frustrating and annoying as it is to have to wipe my computer clean and set it backup using HFS+, that is the price you pay for using beta software :p
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There still seem to be a lot of issues with APFS...which has me really concerned for this release.
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As far as I can tell you can't install the GM on fusion drives formatted as APFS at all - the installer simply won't let you. I've been using APFS on my fusion drive for a few weeks now, it seems to be okay. I haven't noticed any issues that seem file system related (corrupt files, etc.), but there have definitely been some annoying slow down issues, and a bit more than usual spinning beach ball of deaths - it is quite possible those issues are related to APFS and the fusion drive. I'm currently backing up my system and reformatting it back to HFS+ so I can install the GM - we'll see how things run after!
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Noraa did you end up wiping your computer per Apple's instructions or did you do a recovery install like RetinaiMac and I? If you did do a full wipe, did you get past step 5?
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retinaimac said:
They recovery install it seems has improved performance and the boot time seems normal now howevere, I got thr dreaded folder with question mark again this morning. I decide to try and format back per Apple's instructions and cant get past step #5. Once restarting with the bootable installer as my startup drive, I get a screen that flashes a pic of the mouse basically prompting you to turn it on and pair your devices which it does not. Ive also tried it with a wired mouse with no luck. Ill try again later today.
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Seems like my first comment didn't post. Retinaimac I got the same dreaded folder with question mark. Haven't tried the full wipe yet, please let us know if you get past step #5 and a full install of the GM w/o APFS.
 
Seems like using the recovery mode appears to finally install the latest GM beta for me. Never had to do this in the past. Anyway for those still having issues and not being able to install the GM and your last install was beta 9 you can use the steps recommended by others here to get it installed.

1.) Download the GM beta profile and install it. It should open the App store, now select open on Mac OS High Sierra. You should now see the beta installation, install it. If the beta profile does not open the app store for you automatically open safari browser than paste the below link which will open the app store for you with the option to download the GM:

macappstores://itunes.apple.com/app/id1209167288

2.) After the reboot is complete restart the computer again but as soon as the screen goes black hold Command R for some time then let it go.

3.) Select the option to re-install the OS. This whole process will take a while.

Once the whole process is complete you should now have the GM installed.

-Mike
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Jlcollins said:
They aren't showing for me either. Still aren't showing 2 days later.
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It doesn't work from the installer either. I've downloaded and ran the utility 67 times.
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dude, for a lot this isn't working. You keep saying it, but for me, it doesn't work.
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See my post for steps you can use to get it installed I had the same issue.

-Mike
 
mikefla said:
Seems like using the recovery mode appears to finally install the latest GM beta for me. Never had to do this in the past. Anyway for those still having issues and not being able to install the GM and your last install was beta 9 you can use the steps recommended by others here to get it installed.

1.) Download the GM beta profile and install it. It should open the App store, now select open on Mac OS High Sierra. You should now see the beta installation, install it. If the beta profile does not open the app store for you automatically open safari browser than paste the below link which will open the app store for you with the option to download the GM:

macappstores://itunes.apple.com/app/id1209167288

2.) After the reboot is complete restart the computer again but as soon as the screen goes black hold Command R for some time then let it go.

3.) Select the option to re-install the OS. This whole process will take a while.

Once the whole process is complete you should now have the GM installed.

-Mike
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See my post for steps you can use to get it installed I had the same issue.

-Mike
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Mike do you get the dreaded folder with a question mark (or have you before)? Or do you have it so your fusion drive mac doesn’t sleep?
 
devincentis said:
Mike do you get the dreaded folder with a question mark (or have you before)? Or do you have it so your fusion drive mac doesn’t sleep?
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Please keep in mind my situation was different. My machine has an SSD drive so what I mentioned may not apply/help you if you have a Fusion drive sorry. But do read the prior posts I think someone may have provided a solution that may work for you.

-Mike
 
devincentis said:
Mike do you get the dreaded folder with a question mark (or have you before)? Or do you have it so your fusion drive mac doesn’t sleep?
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mikefla said:
Please keep in mind my situation was different. My machine has an SSD drive so what I mentioned may not apply/help you if you have a Fusion drive sorry. But do read the prior posts I think someone may have provided a solution that may work for you.

-Mike
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Yup, you can install the GM on a fusion Drive, but it's a bit complicated, you need to install it on an external or other drive first, then use CCC (for example) to sync the disk you just installed on and the APFS Fusion Drive.

There are much more complicated ways which I won't go into, it will get you a disk with all your files intact on a bootable APFS Fusion Drive.
 
Check and check as I may, I don't seem to be able to download the High Sierra GM candidate. Did Apple pull it?
 
Don't update, it's buggy as $##t... If this is the final version before release I'll eat my own face.

I'm literally preparing to do another clean install when it's officially released, my own fault for being too eager.
 
Wow, that's mental! Thanks for the warning. I was quite literally logging into beta.apple to download the beta profile again.

I'll quit being so eager also and just wait for the release date.

Cheers!

Uplift said:
Don't update, it's buggy as $##t... If this is the final version before release I'll eat my own face.

I'm literally preparing to do another clean install when it's officially released, my own fault for being too eager.
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Uplift said:
Don't update, it's buggy as $##t... If this is the final version before release I'll eat my own face.

I'm literally preparing to do another clean install when it's officially released, my own fault for being too eager.
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Could you share the bugs you are seeing? On my 2011 Mac Mini I am seeing none!
 
devincentis said:
Same here with the dreaded folder with question mark this morning. I haven't tried to format per Apple's instructions yet as I have 1 TB on my 3 TB fusion drive and would rather not wipe it, despite finally now having a current time machine backup. Please let us know if you have any luck later today. If so, I may give it a go...
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Noraa did you end up wiping your computer per Apple's instructions or did you do a recovery install like RetinaiMac and I? If you did do a full wipe, did you get past step 5?
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Seems like my first comment didn't post. Retinaimac I got the same dreaded folder with question mark. Haven't tried the full wipe yet, please let us know if you get past step #5 and a full install of the GM w/o APFS.
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I wound up following these instructions and restoring from time machine backup.

https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/restore#macos
Not really what I wanted but now im back on Sierra and reformatted. I didnt wanna take any chances. Haha
 
retinaimac said:
I wound up following these instructions and restoring from time machine backup.

https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/restore#macos
Not really what I wanted but now im back on Sierra and reformatted. I didnt wanna take any chances. Haha
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Wow. Why all the way back to Sierra and not the High Sierra GM? Guess your folder of death will stop. My plan is to now hold tight with the GM, stopped my iMac from going to sleep (via System Preferences - Display) and hope that the Sep 25 version corrects all. If not, I'll probably then need to do a system wipe I guess...
 
devincentis said:
Same here with the dreaded folder with question mark this morning. I haven't tried to format per Apple's instructions yet as I have 1 TB on my 3 TB fusion drive and would rather not wipe it, despite finally now having a current time machine backup. Please let us know if you have any luck later today. If so, I may give it a go...
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Noraa did you end up wiping your computer per Apple's instructions or did you do a recovery install like RetinaiMac and I? If you did do a full wipe, did you get past step 5?
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Seems like my first comment didn't post. Retinaimac I got the same dreaded folder with question mark. Haven't tried the full wipe yet, please let us know if you get past step #5 and a full install of the GM w/o APFS.
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I did end up reformatting back to HFS+. I ended up doing it my own way, using Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable backup to a standard HDD formatted as HFS+. I then updated the bootable backup to the High Sierra GM (which went flawlessly), wiped my internal drives and recreated the fusion drive - and then cloned the bootable backup back to the fusion drive. I will say, the system seems more stable now that it's back to HFS+ (less slow downs and less spinning beach ball of death), though this could be as a result of the GM being a newer build that the previous beta.
 
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devincentis said:
Wow. Why all the way back to Sierra and not the High Sierra GM? Guess your folder of death will stop. My plan is to now hold tight with the GM, stopped my iMac from going to sleep (via System Preferences - Display) and hope that the Sep 25 version corrects all. If not, I'll probably then need to do a system wipe I guess...
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Just being extra cautious I guess. Only took a few minutes to wipe and reformat. The restore from backup took about an hour. I then installed the GM. No more issues.
 
noraa said:
I did end up reformatting back to HFS+. I ended up doing it my own way, using Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable backup to a standard HDD formatted as HFS+. I then updated the bootable backup to the High Sierra GM (which went flawlessly), wiped my internal drives and recreated the fusion drive - and then cloned the bootable backup back to the fusion drive. I will say, the system seems more stable now that it's back to HFS+ (less slow downs and less spinning beach ball of death), though this could be as a result of the GM being a newer build that the previous beta.
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Thanks for the update. I’m going to hold tight till Monday (Sept 25) and then probably do roughly the same.
 
devincentis said:
Thanks for the update. I’m going to hold tight till Monday (Sept 25) and then probably do roughly the same.
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As much of a giant pain as it was (took me the good chunk of 2 days moving everything back and forth), it was worth doing as there are no immediate benefits of APFS vs. HFS+, and I'd rather have a stable antiquated file system than an unstable shiny new file system.
 
Almost a week later, and the GM still doesn't show up in App Store and says that macOS is up to date (I'm on beta 9). What the hell? Anybody else?
 
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