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There's a whole lot of folks in this thread that have no actual clue about the technicals of emojis, but surely don't allow their ignorance to stop them from blathering on.
The primary complaint the "MOAR EMOJI?!?" crowd has is with Apple's insistence upon listing "new emojis" as a top item of "new features"; it is, if you understand the technicals, nonsensical, and straight pandering to ignorant users easily impressed by superficial things. In short, it is Apple saying they've accomplished something fantastic, when in reality they haven't really done much at all. It is both disrespectful to the intelligence of technical users—who spend significant time being hindered by bugs in Apple's code, or by their users being hindered, and, often, attempting to help Apple fix them by reporting and testing—and of less technical users—because Apple is treating them like babies, who goo and gah over baubles. It should be beneath Apple. But yet they persist.

And don't EVEN start with "Unicode Consortium" blah blah blah. You don't know what you're talking about. Stop wasting our time blathering about things you don't know about. It is annoying. MUCH more tiring than the complaining about Apple's propaganda decisions. Do you realize that there was an age when a user could add hundreds of new glyphs to their system by merely dragging a Font suitcase to the System folder? Zapf Dingbats, WebDings, etc. So adding new emojis in 2024 truly is the dumbest "feature" Apple could trumpet, there are other, much more important things that need addressed. Stop pandering to the idiocracy. That's the point of the complaining.
 
That was a rocky update, or at least starting it was. After an hour of downloading I had 23 more hours to go? So I cancelled it, then two hours later tried again and it worked much better. I don't know if it was my ISP or Apple's server that puked, but something broke.

Also of note, this security update plus new emojis came in at 3.5 GB. A full install of Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon is 3.1 GB. Apple's bloat is truly epic now. Is Swift the most inefficient language ever? Is MS just as bad?
 
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There's a whole lot of folks in this thread that have no actual clue about the technicals of emojis, but surely don't allow their ignorance to stop them from blathering on.
The primary complaint the "MOAR EMOJI?!?" crowd has is with Apple's insistence upon listing "new emojis" as a top item of "new features"; it is, if you understand the technicals, nonsensical, and straight pandering to ignorant users easily impressed by superficial things. In short, it is Apple saying they've accomplished something fantastic, when in reality they haven't really done much at all. It is both disrespectful to the intelligence of technical users—who spend significant time being hindered by bugs in Apple's code, or by their users being hindered, and, often, attempting to help Apple fix them by reporting and testing—and of less technical users—because Apple is treating them like babies, who goo and gah over baubles. It should be beneath Apple. But yet they persist.

And don't EVEN start with "Unicode Consortium" blah blah blah. You don't know what you're talking about. Stop wasting our time blathering about things you don't know about. It is annoying. MUCH more tiring than the complaining about Apple's propaganda decisions. Do you realize that there was an age when a user could add hundreds of new glyphs to their system by merely dragging a Font suitcase to the System folder? Zapf Dingbats, WebDings, etc. So adding new emojis in 2024 truly is the dumbest "feature" Apple could trumpet, there are other, much more important things that need addressed. Stop pandering to the idiocracy. That's the point of the complaining.
Yes, there does indeed seem to be a lot of noise about emojis. I find it strange that any technical users wouldn't be able to figure out when a marketing bullet point isn't aimed at them, though. We have been a rather small segment of Apple's market for at least 10 years now, and the younger iPhone crowd is a much larger demographic than us, so I personally try not to hang on to the glory days and think that I somehow drive Apple's marketing anymore. I'm not personally a fan of the emoji focus and agree that there are other things Apple actually needs to work on, but I figure that if I don't want Apple to treat me like a baby, I probably shouldn't complain about the small things that other potential new customers seem to like and that really have little impact on the features that I do want. As far as Apple thinking that trying to appeal to the non-technical mass market should be beneath them, well that just sounds like a great plan to reduce the size of their business.
 
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Think about that for a second…half way through until the next version comes out, and we start all over with bugs …

…and reminders is finally working for you

Reminders
A feature which was basically table stakes for an OS or piece of software a quarter century ago


This is the quality we are holding up so high and touting?
You seem way more upset about it than I ever was. Reminders continued to work perfectly well on my iPhone, where I needed it most, for the entire time. It was the first real Mac OS issue I've had since I can remember, and I had full confidence Apple would fix it eventually. And they did.

But thanks for caring so much. 😄
 
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You seem way more upset about it than I ever was. Reminders continued to work perfectly well on my iPhone, where I needed it most, for the entire time. It was the first real Mac OS issue I've had since I can remember, and I had full confidence Apple would fix it eventually. And they did.

But thanks for caring so much. 😄

I just think a company with these resources should allocate more of them to software quality

"Reminders" should never "not work right"
 
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I just think a company with these resources should allocate more of them to software quality

"Reminders" should never "not work right"
Maybe, but with so many moving parts and system configs I'm more surprised when things generally work as well as they do. For a little more background, it was an unusual bug apparently. I spent two separate 2 hour+ phone sessions with Apple support back in November trying to sort it out. And while it took this long to get the fix, obviously they had many other things to sort out with Sonoma that took priority.
 
Do you realize that there was an age when a user could add hundreds of new glyphs to their system by merely dragging a Font suitcase to the System folder? Zapf Dingbats, WebDings, etc.
That's a terrible justification. Fonts like this were hacks to work around limitations of the older systems. Proper solutions are where the visual glyph matches the semantic meaning of the character it is attached to, which is what adding characters to Unicode does, and what fonts like Dingbats do not.
 
I don’t think user experience is getting much better with the generations. Change for the sake of change is uninspired. “It just works” is no longer something I can say about the Apple ecosystem. Instead of always changing UI to enhance UX it would be far more useful to kill bugs and focus on regaining the, “it just works” user experience.
 
The 5-pixel dead zone between the Dock and the edge of the screen is still there. Try dragging a file onto an app in the Dock. If your mouse goes to the edge of the screen, the drag will fail. Fitt's Law used to be religious doctrine with Apple... Did they hire a bunch of Windows engineers? (This isn't a 14.4 problem, it may go back to when they wanted the Dock to float apart from the screen edge.)

After the 14.4 update, Spotlight search was seriously screwed up. Adding my drive to the "ignore" list, turning off all the find options, and then reversing these seemed to partially fix it. I'm getting search results, but they aren't complete.

My VPN software won't connect. Not sure if that's a 14.4 problem, but I never had problems before and now nothing works. I've deleted and reinstalled the software, the profiles, restarted the computer, etc. Having done all that, I'm going to call customer support on Monday...
 
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Anyone else get prompted to log in to “Set up iCloud‘ after the last reboot in the update?
All my updates to Sonoma have done this on M1 MacBook Pro. I choose ignore / try again later and then it is all Ok as before - already set up. It may be security related: you are not properly logged in the first time. Apple should add an explanation on the screen.
 
Thanks, but you are assuming that I cannot find what I am looking for. I can always find it, but I still find it less useful than the original layout. I would have figured that by now I would find it more natural, but I still find the old method easier, hence my original comment. I understand that things change, but this doesn't seem like one of the better changes to me, and I prefer that if there is a change, it is obviously for the better. Edit: I also have other Macs running older OSes, which likely doesn't help, but Settings is the only MacOS change that seems to bother me when I alternate computers.

Again, I'm just getting old and grumpy, so I miss the days when system changes for the better were low hanging fruit. Computers work well enough now that most changes just seem like window dressing, so I find most of them either pointless or a downgrade... Apple forcing multiwindow on iPad OS being the biggest example of that one, as it is frustrating on an iPad mini unless you take a pencil sharpener to your fingertips (I digress, but if you can tell me how to turn that off I would truly appreciate it because that is one thing I actually haven't been able to figure out, as there no longer seems to be a way.)
I just started using an iPhone for the first time. I found the similarity of the way Settings works helpful.

We have an iPad, not mini. Press the small three dots at the top of the app window. There you will find the options to manage the windows. Forget about trying to hit the slider bar on split screen, it is a frustrating lottery. Use the three dots.
 
Does someone know whether the InDesign bugs are fixed now with this release of Sonoma? Adobe updated their system requirements page on 6 March and I was hoping that they have finally resolved the issues:


Can't test it myself since I'm still on Ventura because of the issues with Adobe CC.
Ah, is that related to Acrobat Reader not being able to print in poster layout? It would be nice to have that back.
 
“It just works” is no longer something I can say about the Apple ecosystem.
At this point "It just emotes." sounds more appropriate. The first time I saw Apple praising the new animoji I thought it was a joke. Guess the joke is on me. Can't wait for the M4's Emoji Engine™ to light the computing world on fire.
 
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So now macOS 14.4 and Ventura 13.6.5 enter screen saver all by itself when watching Youtube etc, or using a DJ program for example, this did not occur before. Now happens on Sonoma and Ventura.
It is supposed to do it if you leave your computer alone etc, but when watching movies or being controlled with music software it starts even though its technically being used

Also, Sonoma still freezes sometimes when using external displays....
 
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