You would have shaved about a grand off the price if you were really shopping.
Man, if that's possible, I would really appreciate if you could put together a component list to show me how. I don't think I could do it.
You would have shaved about a grand off the price if you were really shopping.
Ha ha, I guess, but it seems like as long as Apple has been making products, people have been complaining about the price. Yes, they cost more. And unfortunately, that extra cost is "justified" by nebulous factors like sexy industrial design and the compatibility and serviceability of having standard components and builds. Plus some other junk.
Different strokes for different folks. I know that on the internet you're supposed to love something or hate something, but these iMacs seem pretty reasonable. Not too expensive, but not exactly a steal. They seem reasonable to me. Your mileage may vary, evidently.
Why on earth do the gamer/DIY people come into every thread about iMacs to complain about them? They will NEVER be like a home-built mid-sized tower scrapped together on daily deals. Ever.
Why on earth do the gamer/DIY people come into every thread about iMacs to complain about them? They will NEVER be like a home-built mid-sized tower scrapped together on daily deals. Ever.
Reality check.
There are a lot of places other than US selling the Dell U2711 (27" IPS) at a much lower price. Hong Kong Dell online store is selling one of those at around US $675 .
Lets make a same spec computer but with a much higher spec video card:
Intel i5 760 2.8Ghz US $205
Corsair XMS3 CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3 1600 4G Kit (2Gx2) US $105
WD Caviar Black 1TB 1002FAEX SATA3/64MB HDD US $82
HIS HD5870 I-Cooler V PCI-E 1GB DDR5 US $385
ASUS P7P55-LX P55,DDR3 M/B US $125
ANTEC NE620C NeoEco 620W 80Plus power supply US $76
Webcam US $50
Wifi 802.11N wireless card US $40
Case US $80
Whatever crap you want to throw at it US $100
Total : US $1923
For almost the same price as a iMac 27" $1999, you have one of the best video card on earth + 27" IPS LCD.
Note: I own a 27" iMac. I bought it just because I have spare money to buy a Mac OS computer. If I want to build a gaming machine, definitely not the iMac. Period.
The U2711 has an extremely high resolution 2560x1440 panel - similar to the panel that's used in the Apple 27" iMac. Notice that we highlighted the word similar? That's because the two panels aren't identical; the glass might be the same, but there are definitely differences.
For one, Apple uses LED backlighting whereas the U2711 sticks with CCFL technology. But isn't CCFL worse? That depends on what you're after; the iMac 27 offers a 72% color gamut while the U2711 has a 102% color gamut (based on the CIE 1931 standard). Using RGB LEDs, it would be possible to get a similarly high color gamut, but our experience with RGB LEDs to date is that they cost more and consume more power than regular LEDs, so we can understand Dell's interest in sticking with the "older" technology. (We've only seen RGB LEDs in a few laptops so far, and as one example it's a $175 upgrade on the Dell Studio XPS 16 compared to a regular white LED display.)
Besides having a higher color gamut and different backlighting technology, Dell uses 12-bit internal color processing with the ability to output 10-bit color. That means you can get 1024 levels of grey instead of just 256, reducing the amount of banding present in certain situations. 24-bit vs. 30-bit color also means you get a color palette of 1.07 billion instead of 16.7 million, though we were unable confirm this in testing. First, you need to have a graphics card with the ability to output 30-bit color, which typically means you need a workstation class GPU. You also need some sort of "special sauce" - specifically, you need an application that knows about deep color support. We connected the U2711 to a Dell Precision M6500 notebook (Quadro FX 3800M GPU) via DisplayPort. NVIDIA tells us that the GPU is aware of the deep color capability of the display at that point, but it requires an appropriate application before 30-bit color output would start. Despite our inability to test this feature, considering the cost of other 30-bit displays (often they are priced upwards of $1800), the U2711 becomes a very interesting option for users that need (and know how to use) "deep color" support.
What should I go for gaming?
A Core i5 760 with a GTX 460.![]()
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i5-680 (4M L3 cache, 2 Cores,4 Threads, 3.60 GHz 32nm) $294
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i3-550 (4M L3 cache, 2 Cores,4 Threads, 3.20 GHz 32nm) $138
i3-540 (4M L3 cache, 2 Cores,4 Threads, 3.06 GHz 32nm) $117
I'm not particularly impressed with the GTX460, its price point sucks in NZ.
Are they still capable of cooking eggs?
Ok I'll go again.
What iMac configuration should I go for tasks such as gaming, music production, etc?
21", 27"? Quad?
Damn. After the Mini went up the roof, now the iMac is following.
In Europe these were the prices for the 4 basic models (all i euros)
* 1.099 * 1.349 * 1.499 * 1.799
Now:
* 1.199 * 1.499 * 1.699 * 1.999
THAT is pretty bad news: 200 euros extras for the basic 27-models?? Apple is definitely letting us down. Full economic crisis out there and Apple is making more profits than ever, and yet, they increase all prices.
Guys, our favorite company is now exclusively driven by greed. In case there was still a doubt about that.
Did you miss the part about him being in Canada?....
460s run in the 70s at load and a SLI configuration wipes the floor with the 480 for the same price (90% improvement in SLI. That's excellent scaling). What is their USD equivalent in NZ?
I'm not particularly impressed with the GTX460, its price point sucks in NZ.
Are they still capable of cooking eggs?
Anywhere between $225 - $250 US, these are standard clock cards. The 5750 is about $200 - 225. The 5770 is that same as the GTX460.
I want to know what models these graphics cards REALLY are...
That's their price here. I don't see the issue.
Thanks.Can you adopt me!?!?!? Congrats!
Consoles have the most vibrant gaming scene. (Lots of games that aren't on PCs)
I'm not particularly impressed with the GTX460, its price point sucks in NZ.
Are they still capable of cooking eggs?