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Apple Releases New MacBooks
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That is odd the data sheet I linked to in my post mentions nothing of vertex shaders. Maybe there is some other differences between the mobile and desktop part.Just a note (if it hasn't already been mentioned somewhere in the previous 1000 posts) for everyone really disappointed at the lack of X3000 graphics from Intel (I'll admit I wanted that chip in there)... While the chip *is* out and can be had in some PC laptops, the WINDOWS drivers for it are nowhere near complete. Currently, Windows does not support its Hardware T&L abilities nor its vertex shaders. Full support for all that stuff is planned for "later" in 2007.
If the WINDOWS drivers for this thing aren't complete and fully functional, I don't really see why the OS X drivers should/would be. And if Apple released this spiffier graphics chip but didn't include the MAIN advantages it has over the GMA950 (hardware T&L...), I think you guys would be even MORE upset. Keep in mind all of this is coming from me, someone who hates the GMA950 as much as anyone and wants an update to the Macbook's graphics. My point is, I think it's still just a tad too early. We'll get it next rev.
Source:
http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intelg965/sb/CS-025665.htm
Newbie here
Hey guys. I was checking out the new Vaio FZ and configured it to be about as good in hard drive and processor as the top of the line macbook (black), and i was shocked to see that it was only 50 dollars more, but it includes a decent graphics card. I honestly dont need that much portability, and the weight difference isnt that much. I wanted a mac, cause everyone talks so well about its great software, but im not sure im willing to sacrifice that much hardware for a different OS.
And I think that the average internet surfing, casual gaming buyer like me would feel the same. I think that apple is missing another line of laptops somewhere in between the MB and the MBP, with less portability (bigger screen) and sligthly better graphics (though the difference between the MB and the FZ in that is very large). Im still not sure what to do, do you think that theres another update comming soon? cause to be honest that didnt look like an update, its just a price drop.
P.S. sorry if i make some mistake on the hardware, I really dont know too much about it.
Hey guys. I was checking out the new Vaio FZ and configured it to be about as good in hard drive and processor as the top of the line macbook (black), and i was shocked to see that it was only 50 dollars more, but it includes a decent graphics card. I honestly dont need that much portability, and the weight difference isnt that much. I wanted a mac, cause everyone talks so well about its great software, but im not sure im willing to sacrifice that much hardware for a different OS.
And I think that the average internet surfing, casual gaming buyer like me would feel the same. I think that apple is missing another line of laptops somewhere in between the MB and the MBP, with less portability (bigger screen) and sligthly better graphics (though the difference between the MB and the FZ in that is very large). Im still not sure what to do, do you think that theres another update comming soon? cause to be honest that didnt look like an update, its just a price drop.
P.S. sorry if i make some mistake on the hardware, I really dont know too much about it.
Thank you! That actually DOES make me feel better. I guess I could wait another 6 months for another rev, but I'd rather just spend the money now and enjoy the new laptop.
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Filter out the Noobz
I think Apple purposely updated the MacBooks in the way they did to filter out all the Mac noobz that would mar their fan base image.
Well done, Apple.
I am personally awaiting the MacBook Pro updates, and it is not because I want to compare GPU sizes with PCers, but because I want whatever Apple's latest is.
I mean, come on, PCs run the oldest technology still sold: Windows.
I think Apple purposely updated the MacBooks in the way they did to filter out all the Mac noobz that would mar their fan base image.
Well done, Apple.
I am personally awaiting the MacBook Pro updates, and it is not because I want to compare GPU sizes with PCers, but because I want whatever Apple's latest is.
I mean, come on, PCs run the oldest technology still sold: Windows.
Ya know what I just noticed reading the last 30 pages?
I was kind of curious as to why people who use a mac on a daily basis would be so hung up on little spec differences and updates, and then I noticed that almost every person who was so worked up about there not being SR, or LED, or a GPU, prefaced or ended their comments with:
"I was all set to switch, but now I guess I'll wait/buy a pc."
That's Hlarious!!!
Seriously, potential switchers, if you don't use a mac on a daily basis, your argument has no validity with me. I was VERY anxious about switching until I actually got behind one of the machines for a couple weeks. I realized that the little stupid differences and perceived shortcomings meant nothing compared to the actual experiece of using the mac, and the results that I received from it.
My first mac was a 1Ghz ibook, 512 ram, combo drive.
I compared it with my friends desktop intel pc, which was supposed to clock at around 2.5ghz, and not only did it keep up (in general tasks), but I enjoyed my experience so much more than I did with the windows machine.
So if you're going to switch, then switch. Don't bitch and complain about what hardware the PCs have that macs don't, because the end result is greater than the sum of it's parts.
I was kind of curious as to why people who use a mac on a daily basis would be so hung up on little spec differences and updates, and then I noticed that almost every person who was so worked up about there not being SR, or LED, or a GPU, prefaced or ended their comments with:
"I was all set to switch, but now I guess I'll wait/buy a pc."
That's Hlarious!!!
Seriously, potential switchers, if you don't use a mac on a daily basis, your argument has no validity with me. I was VERY anxious about switching until I actually got behind one of the machines for a couple weeks. I realized that the little stupid differences and perceived shortcomings meant nothing compared to the actual experiece of using the mac, and the results that I received from it.
My first mac was a 1Ghz ibook, 512 ram, combo drive.
I compared it with my friends desktop intel pc, which was supposed to clock at around 2.5ghz, and not only did it keep up (in general tasks), but I enjoyed my experience so much more than I did with the windows machine.
So if you're going to switch, then switch. Don't bitch and complain about what hardware the PCs have that macs don't, because the end result is greater than the sum of it's parts.
I can't believe MacBooks are this cheap now
I can't believe MacBooks are at this pricepoint now...$1099 for the 13" black. I should not have bought my Macbook Pro so quickly (at over $2100!).
http://www.logicbuy.com/hotbuys/101...ok_13__Widescreen_2GHz_Core_2_Duo_Laptop.aspx
I can't believe MacBooks are at this pricepoint now...$1099 for the 13" black. I should not have bought my Macbook Pro so quickly (at over $2100!).
http://www.logicbuy.com/hotbuys/101...ok_13__Widescreen_2GHz_Core_2_Duo_Laptop.aspx
As predicted, Apple released revised MacBooks today.
- 2.0GHz, 13.3" White MacBook, 80GB, 1GB RAM, Intel Graphics 950, $1099
- 2.16GHz, 13" White MacBook, 120GB, 1GB RAM. Intel Graphics 950, $1299
- 2.16GHz, 13" Black MacBook, 160GB, 1GB RAM, Intel Grahics 950, $1499
The new Apple laptops will be available at the Apple Store U.S. (U.K. Store)
Everything is fine on the MacBook except for the video chipset. Apple can make it much more of a value with improving the rest of the hardware as much as they want. You're still going to lose sales due only to the graphics option.
True I suppose, although Linux support isn't all that bad...HP's supporting Ubuntu now and Nvidia drivers are out for Linux.
Yeah, it has a built in camera/microphone. 14.1 inch. Wireless G (no N), but I've not got an N router, so that's not an issue today for myself. iLife is nice, no argument there, and I would love to tool around with it, but not for a $550 premium. I figure I'll dual boot Vista and Kubuntu (with KDE 4.0 once it releases).
Open Office will stand in for Microsoft Office. If that's not good enough, running Crossover Office (http://www.codeweavers.com/) will do just fine.
The Apple software is nice, no argument. There's a reason I wanted to buy a Macbook, and there's a reason why I'm sad that I can't justify doing so. Maybe one day I'll spend some serious time behind one and see if it really is worth the premium, but right now I can't.
I'm not going to argue specs, but I have never run into a problem with any of the apps I run.
Of course I only run consumer apps, and I don't play games. I guess I would be the person that apple targets with their consumer level, non-gaming, laptop.
surely we should be waiting with the next gen centrino chip after santa rosa coming out in 2008 with hspda (3.5g) capability to be put into the macbooks/pro's also with deff GPU of up to 512mb dedicated, like the PC laptop equivalents at the moment. would it not be a waste to get these ones if we could technically wait for the next gen ones?! correct me if im wrong, im new to this!
A GeForce 7200/7300 would have been more then enough to appease the masses while keeping its price point.
The processor is overkill for this type of machine. I'd rather have the same CPU (or even a slower one) for a better GPU in the long run. What is shaving seconds off of encoding job over the previous Macbook going to do? The bottleneck is still the video card.
"Fat" 35% margins? Sarcasm or disbelief? Read the link I posed earlier, that number is directly from the Apple Shareholders meeting. Granted 35.1% margins are gross margins across all business units averaged, and not Macbook specific, but they do act as an indication.
"Fat"? Not exactly. Out of line for industry norms? Absolutely. I wouldn't define them as "fat" though....good on Apple (or any company) for commanding such a premium. I'm quite sure the board rooms of HP/Dell/Acer/Gateway are filled with talk of envy.
Again...what is this really going to do practically?
Make it better at gaming? It's not a gaming computer.
Make it better at movie editing? It's not a pro machine.
Make it better at it's normal day to day tasks? It's already perfectly fine.
I don't think it's the masses that need appeasing, it's the forum geeks and snobs that pay way too much attention to specs instead of real world experience that seem to need appeasing, and that is the minority.
Without OpenGL multithreading, I hope you'll enjoy playing Sims 2.
There's marginal difference between Merom and Woodcrest until you start going beyond dual core. Why did you bring this up?
No complaints.
Apple refreshed it with a new processor and higher end stock options. The bottleneck for purchasing is still going to be the video card. The processor and other options are value upgrades but in the end are pointless.
Excellent!
1000th reply! I SO rule!
Now, what's this I hear about new MacBooks? God, I hope they have the Santa Rosa chip inside. And get rid of that damn combo drive.
Oh yeah, a separate graphics card would be nice.
And shrink the screen to ultra-portable specs.
And make it $400, FREE SHIPPING!
1000th reply! I SO rule!
Now, what's this I hear about new MacBooks? God, I hope they have the Santa Rosa chip inside. And get rid of that damn combo drive.
Oh yeah, a separate graphics card would be nice.
And shrink the screen to ultra-portable specs.
And make it $400, FREE SHIPPING!
Yeah, that's all good and well, and I agree with you, but the post you quoted was in response to people claiming that you could not get a PC notebook with macbook hardware specs for a macbook price. Which you can, and then some.
yeah, let's insult the admins because people are interested in this topic... right...
QFT. You can push the processor as high as you want and it's hardly gonna change a thing with that GMA 950 in there.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - people were upset with the choice of the GMA 950 a full year ago. At this point it's beyond ridiculous.
Yeah, that's all good and well, and I agree with you, but the post you quoted was in response to people claiming that you could not get a PC notebook with macbook hardware specs for a macbook price. Which you can, and then some.
yeah, let's insult the admins because people are interested in this topic... right...
QFT. You can push the processor as high as you want and it's hardly gonna change a thing with that GMA 950 in there.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - people were upset with the choice of the GMA 950 a full year ago. At this point it's beyond ridiculous.
fun fun, but why the need to prove that you have been godlike and said something a year ago. everyone has said things like that. join the crowd, it's cool
For all of the whiners complaining that the MacBook is lame, the graphics suck, and that Apple is losing sales by using the GMA950 (which of course Dell, HP, and many others in the same price range still happen to use too), you should have read the press release this morning. Doesn't seem like the real world numbers are hurting one bit...
