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This is all well and good but how about updating the desktop line!? The Mac mini hasn't seen a real update since January 2006! Thats almost 2 years!

I agree it needs an update, but its not even close to 2 years. It be about 1 year and 4-5months...but since it got updated in Sept 06, its more like 9 month. Still a long time, but far more reasonable then 2 years!
 
HHmmmm let me think, a beautifully designed, reliable laptop that doesn't get viruses, runs the latest software effortlessly without having to spend a whole lot of money on chunky hardware requirements, no need to run regular disk maintenance (like disk defrag), everything you need is built right into it, you get a ton of apps that windows users have to pay for separately... Gee I don't know :rolleyes:

It seems people are all caught up in the rumour mill expecting things that Apple have never committed to, comparing a Mac to some of the ugliest and less reliable laptops on the market and most of whom have probably never used these windows laptops in any case.

Get a grip people, if you're unhappy then go to a windows machine and don't whinge when you realise what you missed out on.
 
Do you also belive the news on TV??:D Yeah you are right but even if there is ANY gain its minimal. Thats at least what Andatech claims and I have no reason to disagree with them. FSB is like what 130MHz? You really wont notice that. I dont think SR in MB will really change battery life. We will see sooner or later though. But it is entry level machine and it's cheap.!!

Oh Im def. sure it would change battery life. The updated wireless card. Intel Turbo Memory. The active switching FSB. You would def. see am improvement. Without a doubt.
 
Intel say: "With a powerful 400MHz core and DirectX* 9 3D hardware acceleration, Intel® GMA 950 graphics"

Yes, it's crappy, and the vertex processing is handled by the CPU, but it's not 1999 quality as the combination of GMA950 + Drivers can (in Windows) handle DirectX 9 completely (or OpenGL 1.5 / 2.0 / whatever, in Mac OS X).

The MacBook has two very powerful processors. With the GMA 950, it is unlikely that any game would be CPU limited, so I'd say that the MacBook can handle vertex processing in software quite easily without any loss in speed, especially with multithreaded OpenGL.
 
The MacBook is a consumer laptop. I like mine, it does everything I expected it to do. If it can't for you then go Pro. There is a reason for different product lines.
 
Oh Im def. sure it would change battery life. The updated wireless card. Intel Turbo Memory. The active switching FSB. You would def. see am improvement. Without a doubt.

But we dont know if Apple will include turbo memory even in MBP. We have no idea if OS will be comatible with it. I think it coud be like with N. MBP will be shipped and there will be no word about Turbo Memory and after Leopard you will be able to enable it after OS upgrade. We have no idea frankly. maybe you right but I dont think it will be enough of improvement to be noticed by 95%+ of MB buyers
 
or the iMacs, or the mini, or the Mac Pro....

The MacBook Pro is riding the oldest case.

PowerMac G5: Jun '04
iMac G5: Aug '04
Mac Mini Introduction: Jan '05


Powerbook: Jan '01. Or if you only want to count the Alum Books: Jan '03.

Its getting close to 5 years on just the Alum design which has not been changed except for charging port, isight, and double latch in 4 and a half years.

Psssh... the Tit, which is basically the same thing is 6 and a half year. Over double most of the other case lifes. I think MacBook Pro are most in need of a new case. Especially since they have the largest problem with cooling, bad signals, lack of expandability, and prone to bending, cracking, dinging. All the other cases are pretty good. I mean their desktops, the cases dont exactly change much.
 
Considering all the fantastical hype and rumors circling the web, I found today's announcements a bit underwhelming.

I guess we'll have to wait it out. :(
 
false... it will help battery life!

While the MacWorld article makes that claim I'd like to actually see that substantiated. People seem to assume that LEDs are more efficient than fluorescents for some reason. Your typical CFL has a better lumen/watt rating than the typical LED does. Some of the latest white LED prototypes are finally exceeding the lumen/watt ratings of CFLs but they are very expensive. I would be very surprised if there is much, if any, improvement in battery life. See luminous efficacy article over at Wikipedia for enlightenment. ;)
 
Originally Posted by Half Glass
Operating System (Office software not included):
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Basic VHB3E [313-4910][420-5769][420-5924][420-6436][420-6481][420-6553][463-2282] 11​
Did you just post your Vista activation code? O_O Hahaha!

Just a bundle of Dell order numbers :)
 
The MacBook Pro is riding the oldest case.

PowerMac G5: Jun '04
iMac G5: Aug '04
Mac Mini Introduction: Jan '05


Powerbook: Jan '01. Or if you only want to count the Alum Books: Jan '03.

Its getting close to 5 years on just the Alum design which has not been changed except for charging port, isight, and double latch in 4 and a half years.

Psssh... the Tit, which is basically the same thing is 6 and a half year. Over double most of the other case lifes. I think MacBook Pro are most in need of a new case. Especially since they have the largest problem with cooling, bad signals, lack of expandability, and prone to bending, cracking, dinging. All the other cases are pretty good. I mean their desktops, the cases dont exactly change much.

Very true. I didn't realize that the MBP cases where causing so much trouble. The problem is that when everyone was used to almost annual case redesigns from the late 90's/early 00's even a couple of years can seem a long time. Maybe its a testimony to Apple finally having achieved near case perfection. :D
 
Incorrect Specs Spain/Netherlands Apple Store

I just wish that Apple would correct the Spain and Netherands Stores so that the new Macbook specifications are right.

Talk about confuse people!
 

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Do you even know what you're talking about? LED screens are MUCH superior to the current ones. Better battery life and longer brightness life are just two of the many advantages that LEDs have.
See my other post regarding better battery life. As for longer brightness life... I have yet to experience a loss in brightness in any LCD I've owned so far so I stand by my comment: What's all the fuss about?
 
Lots of people say this. Its a free bump. But its not true. People don't understand.

You see computers depreciate from the day you buy them, and they depreciate fast. They have to upgrade them to keep the value at the asking price. You can't keep charging the same for old hardware. But CPU speed is not the issue.
The platform is old now and so is the gpu. Not to mention its time for Blue-ray and OLED screens. Oh, can some one tell me why they can't put an express card slot and a standard DVI connector on a macbook? Oh let me guess, then what will be the point in buying a macbook pro right? EXACTLY!

No I dont think you understand. Computers and gadgets are the first thing in the history of mankind that can be said to be amazing based on features one month and ****** the next. By the same person. Just two centuries ago it was amazing if things changed at all! EVER! Then it was cool when your car got an update every couple years or when a new gadget came out. No one ever cared from a nearly week to week standpoint what was in something. If they had bumped to SR now. At WWDC people would have been asking for more. Then come Xmas, what are they supposed to bump? There is nothing coming out until next Spring. This is def. smart. Give a bit more. Clear the stocks. Stagger the less than luster amount of updates untill next year. You can't redesign the case for LEDs, you just came out with a new computer. You update to SR in the fall or sooner if stocks fall enough. Update early next yr to LED. Then soon after to Penyrn. That seems healthy. Waiting almost a year from now to update to LEDs doesnt seem as healthy. Plus they could potentially have a huge stock of Socket M CPUs on their hand (which wouldnt be a problem if they had as large as product diversifications as other companies. But they only have two portable lines, so...)

It clearly wouldnt make any business sense to upgrade to SR now.

AND BLURAY AND OLED!?!?!?!

First of all most companies barely have LED ought. OLED has only been shown for like one or two PROTOTYPES. No where close to market ready and you wanted them to put them in their base computer? And Blu-ray doesnt fit in a computer this thickness. If you didnt realize they are big and also need a good graphics card. They are only showing up on high-end 15/17" multimedia laptops. Which the macbook is not. Thinking Blu-Ray and OLED are deserving of the macbook merely proves how little you really know about the situation here.
 
But we dont know if Apple will include turbo memory even in MBP. We have no idea if OS will be comatible with it. I think it coud be like with N. MBP will be shipped and there will be no word about Turbo Memory and after Leopard you will be able to enable it after OS upgrade. We have no idea frankly. maybe you right but I dont think it will be enough of improvement to be noticed by 95%+ of MB buyers

Yeah def. true we have no clue if they would add. Yeah if anything it would have to come at Leopard. I do think it'll add like half an hour. LEDs and SR is ballparked at adding an hour to an hour and half of time with Turbo Memory. So, I think without LED or Turbo, your pegging atleast a bit more. It may not be very noticeable but it will definitely be improved.
 
Very true. I didn't realize that the MBP cases where causing so much trouble. The problem is that when everyone was used to almost annual case redesigns from the late 90's/early 00's even a couple of years can seem a long time. Maybe its a testimony to Apple finally having achieved near case perfection. :D
Yeah having owned a Powerbook. The think dents like crazy. I find it a huge problem. And it is an old mantra that iBooks had better range than PBs cause of the metal case. But you are def. right. They aren't updating them like they used to. I just thinked their design team isn't the same as it used to be. I mean I love how the PB/MBP looks.... well when its not dinged. Which means it looks great for about a month.

I love that case. I think its pefect. I would NOT change it just for sake of changing something. New doesn't mean better

I for one hope they keep the current design. I like it. But of course, if they do redesign it, it'll probably be better (this is Apple after all). But still, I don't see the problem you all have with the current MBP design... I definitely hope they don't make it thicker!!
Do you guys own PBs or MBPs? If so have yours not spontaniously dinged? They look fabulous I'll testify, that half the reason I got it over an iBook. But to say the case is perfect. lol. lol......
 
I just wish that Apple would correct the Spain and Netherands Stores so that the new Macbook specifications are right.

Talk about confuse people!

It's wrong there, but once you select (to buy) them the specs are OK.

Oh, and it's not Spain and Netherlands, it's ALL the Apple Stores that work with Euros :rolleyes:

Edit: I guess most Europe has it wrong because the Swiss one is wrong too, and South Korea, and Norway...
 
Do you guys own PBs or MBPs? If so have yours not spontaniously dinged? They look fabulous I'll testify, that half the reason I got it over an iBook. But to say the case is perfect. lol. lol......

I don't own a Mac... When the new MBP comes out, it'll be my first Mac. Does the case get dented easily? Is that what you mean?
 
Holy cookies. This the most incredible thing I've ever read here. Of course they're under an obligation to satisfy us. We're their customers. We're the reason they exist. How can anyone possibly think otherwise?.

No, you are wrong. They are under an obligation to make sure that their share holders make the most ammount of money possible. Steve Jobs is employed by ever apple share holder, and his job is to make money for them. That is, their one and only obligation is to make the company make as big winnings as possible. If that includes making you happy then so be it, but that is not their business object.

Oh and by the way, this goes for any company.
 
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