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Apple Releases New MacBooks
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At first I was all bummed about this update being underwhelming.
but then I realized I'm not really the target market for a macbook.
What I do know for sure is that when the MacBook Pro updates come out I hope they are freaking awesome. I want something that will get me all giddy and be bouncing around the house to the point that my wife will wonder if I should be institutionalized. (maybe that's not the best measure, she may think that already lol
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I'm also really hoping that either the mac mini will receive significant updates or that Apple will announce & release some headless iMac.
but then I realized I'm not really the target market for a macbook.
What I do know for sure is that when the MacBook Pro updates come out I hope they are freaking awesome. I want something that will get me all giddy and be bouncing around the house to the point that my wife will wonder if I should be institutionalized. (maybe that's not the best measure, she may think that already lol
) I'm also really hoping that either the mac mini will receive significant updates or that Apple will announce & release some headless iMac.
Who voted negative on this?!
LOL
How could you not? Some 6 months and they speed up the Macbook by 160MHz. Amazing.
Sorry to double post but...well you're wrong. Linux is a great alternative to Windows but hardware support is the main issue. As Linux supports only open source drivers it has a lot of issues with Nvidia and especially ATI graphics cards. And well...there are no real mainstream games for it. Linux is at a point where it's getting very mature and a lot of people seem to realize it, ie DELL. But it still has a way to go. Right now I'm runing Kubuntu via VMWare on Windows Vista. So far I like it but when I need to game or do something that only Windows can do then I use Vista. Try it out though. The best of luck.
I'm at a point where I want to try new things. I just installed Linux this week. I'm also ready to take the Apple plunge. I think that the MacBook/Pro will be perfect for this but I'm waiting just a little bit longer.
Oh come on who is the troll here. This update to the MB is nothing but crap. Everything contained in the update could have been offered at the beginning of the year. Even worst this update (if we can call it that) ignores the weakest point that he machines have. That weak point is the GPU.
To be honest I;m not going to say here that Santa Rosa was the only choice for this update but with the timing you would have thought that it was an extremely likely possibility. Frankly I would have been happy with any integrated chip set that lead to a performance improvement over the current one. The thing that made the new GPU offered up as part of Santa Rosa so attractive is that it accelerated video processing.
In any event to sit here and call these solid updates can only indicate one of two things. You lack the technical knowledge and market understanding to evaluate the offerings. Or you are in fact trolling.
Dave
Guys, it makes sense that they did not put flash into the MacBooks. It will be expensive and should be a premium feature --- perfect for MacBook Pro. I'm glad they did NOT update the MacBook Pro!
Funny how except for no 80211.n, my MacBook bought on the first day of the announcement is still not really out of date.
I suspect the big update will come in September. I believe now is the time for the MBP's to shine. Although given the delay of Leopard, the problems with the Octo macs, etc., maybe it is just not the year of the Mac.
I suspect the big update will come in September. I believe now is the time for the MBP's to shine. Although given the delay of Leopard, the problems with the Octo macs, etc., maybe it is just not the year of the Mac.
You'll notice a beach ball grind with Exposé and Dashboard if you don't have enough RAM or non-matched pairs. I really need more RAM in my Mac mini at work. 1.25 GB just isn't enough for 5 apps open.
Sorry, I'm calling ******** on this one.
I have a 1.83 C2D macbook with 1.25 (non matched obviously) and unless I am really overloading the system, or downloading a list full of torrents, expose and dashboard are flawless.
No. It's not "pointless." Different computer users have different needs. I don't need 3D horsepower. However, I can make good use of whatever amount of raw CPU horsepower is available.
lol which is pathetic. lol
I dunno, I have to get a new computer like every 2 years at least... just like a car. I cant go more than that with either.... i always need something new.
Thats why this update makes me mad. Because since the beginning of the MacBook, Really, it hasnt upgraded very far.
Apple has a marketing department, a BOD, a managaemnt team and engineering. Steve is not the only guy over there.
I am surprised they updated the MB at all before the major revisions we all want and were expecting in SEPTEMBER 2007.
The fact anything at all happened in May 2007 is a free lunch for the macBook line. The fact it results in more processor, no crippled 2mb cache processors, more stock memory, etc is a godsend.
There are plenty of nitpicky things particular classes of users can complain about, but for the vast majority 95% of users it simply has more features, by far, than any other computer at ANY price. Last I checked you cannot even get a C2D computer with that much memory and a full OS and software suite (of any crappy description) for that price. Much less a nice computer with nice software and incidentaly able to run EVERY other major OS out there - simultaneously.
MacBook as a product is a winner. It is really that simple sometimes.
Rocketman
I am surprised they updated the MB at all before the major revisions we all want and were expecting in SEPTEMBER 2007.
The fact anything at all happened in May 2007 is a free lunch for the macBook line. The fact it results in more processor, no crippled 2mb cache processors, more stock memory, etc is a godsend.
There are plenty of nitpicky things particular classes of users can complain about, but for the vast majority 95% of users it simply has more features, by far, than any other computer at ANY price. Last I checked you cannot even get a C2D computer with that much memory and a full OS and software suite (of any crappy description) for that price. Much less a nice computer with nice software and incidentaly able to run EVERY other major OS out there - simultaneously.
MacBook as a product is a winner. It is really that simple sometimes.
Rocketman
Wonderful synthetic benchmarks...
1. Firefox
2. Mail
3. iTunes
4. Quicksilver
5. Dashboard w/ 4 widgets
That's enough to use all my RAM and get page outs. I know I'm getting page outs when Finder and Exposé beach ball.
I'm sure the few seconds gained are put to use. 2.0/2.16 GHz is over kill for an entry level laptop.
You act as if you were entitled to a big release today. Apple never promised a release. Apple never hinted at one. Apple never even claimed that their MacBook was supposed to have a powerful GPU. If you want a powerful GPU, get a MacBook Pro.
Apple had no reason to upgrade the machine significantly. It is selling quite well, from what I can tell. If and when they start selling significantly less, I'm sure Apple will do something. In fact, I'm sure they already have systems ready - just unreleased.
If you want to get angry at Apple, it makes more sense to get angry over their delay of Leopard. Apple did promise that. And they are not delivering it on time. I'm willing to cut them some slack there - even though I do not believe their sole reason is the iPhone. Or at least, not just the development of the iPhone (more likely the marketing aspect; having two products released at the same time might make them compete for hype).
But no one was entitled to a significant change in lineup. I can see why one might have been hoping for one, but Apple never claimed, promised - or even hinted - that a change would come. There is no reason to feel entitled to one. And the current Mac lineup is satisfactory in general, in my opinion, seeing as my MacBook Pro C2D 2.33 GHz 2GB RAM machine is still faster than any other machine at my home or office which has over 30 computers. It's graphics card is more than acceptable, managing to drive The Sims 2 on a 30" monitor at full resolution and all options checked while barely stuttering. I think it's fast enough.
1024 posts?
I see that there are 1024 posts on this thread.
Am I seeing this right? Or am I hallucinating after reading thru all the rants of this "superfluous" upgrades
I see that there are 1024 posts on this thread.
Am I seeing this right? Or am I hallucinating after reading thru all the rants of this "superfluous" upgrades
Firefox is a dog...maybe you should dump it and go back to safari.
Open right now.
Mail
ichat
Safari
Azureus
Sofa Control
iTunes
..and currently flipping back and forth to dashboard....totally fine!
so yeah...bull.
Open right now.
ichat
Safari
Azureus
Sofa Control
iTunes
..and currently flipping back and forth to dashboard....totally fine!
so yeah...bull.
Safari won't give up RAM after prolonged usage. I've had Safari hit over 300 MB of Real Memory usage.
FireFox does hit around 150 MB but it stays there even after hours.
It should work if you have Core Image support. Just expect 2 GB of RAM if you're on an Mac with integrated graphics. But hey if Motion isn't officially supported on the GMA 950...Officially...
Maybe, but Core Animation does, and Leopard will be full of it. So I think it makes sense to beef up the GFX abilities ahead of time...
for some reason, people do not seem to understand that that macbooks are no the pro line of computers. they are not supposed to be the fastest machines with the best graphics, otherwise they may as well be 13" macbook pros. 99% of people who buy the macbook do not need santa rosa or superfast gpus. this is a consumer line computer used for doing average tasks that most computer illiterate people do. if you really need a powerful computer, get a macbook pro.
the good news from this though is that if macbooks are this fast, i cannot wait for te new pros! WWDC should be amazing!
the good news from this though is that if macbooks are this fast, i cannot wait for te new pros! WWDC should be amazing!
Err, yes. Everything (spec wise) was available. Only it cost $200 more prior to today's "update." In other words, you now get what did cost $1299 for $1099. What's not to like about that deal?
Oh, you say it didn't get a GPU boost? Well, then wait about 6 months if you need X3100 graphics on a Macbook. Or better yet, think about buying a Macbook Pro.
True. The future looks much better, however. Have you seen WebKit? It is the in-development version of Safari (or at least, of Safari's layout engine). As a web developer, I download its nightly builds. It can be buggy at times, but it can also be significantly faster than the normal Safari and has much fewer memory leaks. Though it does, like your Firefox, reach ~150MB (perhaps 160 - it is hovering at 116 for me at the moment), it doesn't go any further. Normal Safari needs to be reset every so often.
Leopard will most likely show these improvements. I wish that Apple would release parts of these in the 10.4.x updates, though. Though they kind of do, the new versions of WebKit that they use seem to be from different branches that only modify the problems needed to be fixed for security holes - usually very little more.
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As for all of the statements made that Apple is obligated to satisfy it's customers, I would have to disagree. The only people Apple is obligated to satisfy, in my opinion, is its shareholders. Of course it is good business practice to satisfy the customers as much as possible, but you can't risk the bottom line. Trying too hard to please customers could upset shareholders, because it effects their pocketbooks.
Speed increase + more standard memory + larger storage = (somewhat) happy customers = more profit = happy shareholders
Speed increase + more standard memory + larger storage = (somewhat) happy customers = more profit = happy shareholders