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Apple Releases New PowerMacs

this looks like a bit of an half hearted attempt at an update. maybe something else will be coming at wwdc?i cant see why they have made the dual 1.8 worse. interesting! maybe we are missing something here?
 
Australian store, strange comment....

The Australian store is showing the new ones also.
Under the 2.5GHz there is the following text: "Sale subject to agency approval".
What the **** does that mean?
 
Sure, it's isn't 3 GHz, but it's still a significant jump in my mind - 2x500 MHz.

It would have been nice to see another new machine in the line-up, as opposed to leaving the 1.8 and 2.0 there, but maybe this is setting something up for WWDC. Maybe Jobs will release another couple models at WWDC, including the 3 GHz - or at least anounce it with shipping times a few months thereafter...
 
so what were those service images of...?

if this is the revision, then what were those service images of? is that what was supposed to come out but didnt and this is the stop-gap because that effor failed?
 
Not bad, but not good, where the hell is the dual 3GHz, and what the hell is that POS FX5200 still in Powermacs???? Top end should have a top-end card, not a mid range 9600XT, and it should have 1GB RAM minium standard. Bloody hell Apple, sort it out!!!
 
Not too impressive, but on the other hand my Dual G5 i paid $2499 for still loooks pretty good!

So if Steve Job's promissed 3GHz by end of summer, will they not release that now because it will only be a few months after these upgrades? (if they can get it together by then) Does this mean he blew that promise, or could they still bring out a 3GHz model say in early fall? Have they ever brought out something back to back like that?
 
Did anyone notice the motherboards are not the same smaller ones shown by Appleinsider? The inside of the case and heatsink are not diff either...
 
insane people?

Jedda said:
You people drive me insane.

.5 Ghz in a year is an amazign effort.

If you don't think so, you really need to do some research.

True, Apple is all glamour, but that's mostly Steve.

Behind it all, they are a technology company who must abide to the laws of nature. It's not magic.
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I haven't seen anyone complaining about the 2.5Ghz machine.
 
hmg said:
The Australian store is showing the new ones also.
Under the 2.5GHz there is the following text: "Sale subject to agency approval".
What the **** does that mean?
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My guess it means the Aussie safety agencies or whatever you have that electrical goods have to pass.
 
It may have already been mentioned, but the new BTO Radeon 9800 XT video card has 256MB VRAM. I'm pretty sure it was 128MB before...
 
why get mad

Why get mad, at least now apple has the liquid cooling for future machines, as well as it seems IBM finally has this 90NM **** down...kinda sux about the wait till july to get dual 2.5...but oh well. Maybe we will see future updates in september/october and then again around april or may.
 
Jedda said:
You people drive me insane.

.5 Ghz in a year is an amazign effort.

If you don't think so, you really need to do some research.
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Of course it is, but look at the rest of the machine(s). I for one am slowly losing interest in Apple hardware, and it's a shame because I've been a FANATIC, reading these sites and what-not for years. 2 Grand for that 1.8 machine? Are they mad? I *might* pay 1500 for it. If I were going to buy a new PowerMac right now, there is no way in hell I'd buy the dual 1.8. So I look up the line at the considerably more expensive 2.0, and it's still expensive and nothing new, and with a crappy gfx card. Great. Look up the line again....wow, great machine! Oh, 3000 bucks? There are children starving in Africa, and I need to pay my rent.....sorry, too much money. I'm not going to take out a mortgage to buy a computer.

Give me a single G5 headless iMac for under 1200. I'll buy one right now. My G4 450 (1999!) is almost unusable and Mom is not buying my computers anymore. H e l p
 
hmg said:
The Australian store is showing the new ones also.
Under the 2.5GHz there is the following text: "Sale subject to agency approval".
What the **** does that mean?
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They're just waiting for some or other government permit. I'm sure it will be forthcoming...
 
You know, I may be confused about this but I though the whole point of tower systems was that you could swap whatever cards you wanted. So stop whining about the graphics cards - if you don't like it, change it ! Same goes for memory - ever see the Build to Order page ?
 
the new G5 updates: LAME

i love apple and support and promote them to no end in my life, but they've really been dropping the ball in the past 6 months (yeah yeah yeah, ibm dropped the ball, pepsi dropped the ball, blah blah blah, excuse after excuse after excuse, etc.) and not really wowing me like they did last year. everything is coming up underwhelming (ie. iTunes 100 million goal missed, 3Ghz goal missed, pepsi promo an uncoordinated mess, etc.). glad i'm holding off another year before i upgrade to a new G5 PM. 3Ghz should be out by then i hope.

it's not that i really even blame apple for anything, but you have to admit, this year has pretty much sucked so far. i have high hopes for tiger, though.
 
~Shard~ said:
Sure, it's isn't 3 GHz, but it's still a significant jump in my mind - 2x500 MHz.

It would have been nice to see another new machine in the line-up, as opposed to leaving the 1.8 and 2.0 there, but maybe this is setting something up for WWDC. Maybe Jobs will release another couple models at WWDC, including the 3 GHz - or at least anounce it with shipping times a few months thereafter...
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Wouldn't that be sales and marketing suicide?
 
Gee4orce said:
You know, I may be confused about this but I though the whole point of tower systems was that you could swap whatever cards you wanted. So stop whining about the graphics cards - if you don't like it, change it ! Same goes for memory - ever see the Build to Order page ?
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Sorry....not everyone is rich. It's the principal. For 2500 bucks (or 2000 even) you should be getting something better, not getting ripped off.
 
The processors are fine. The tough things to me are the low amounts of RAM (obligating any "pro" buyer to buy a bunch of RAM is pretty hard to swallow) and the 5200 video card. I have a 5200 mobile in my toshiba laptop and it cant even come close to playing Halo. Somebody called it a midlevel card above-- I dont think that it even counts as that. :mad:
 
Dont Hurt Me said:
The worst part of this update are the video cards, fx5200 in a $2000 machine??? am i missing something? $50 more bucks for a 9600xt, $350 for a 9800xt in the base machine. Apple has fallen behind in the video card dept, good reason to kill off ADC.
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I doubt that ADC is the reason for video card lag. It is a heck of a lot more expensive and labor intensive to rewrite the video card's ROM to talk to Open Firmware than it is to run a few extra leads on the card.
 
Gee4orce said:
You know, I may be confused about this but I though the whole point of tower systems was that you could swap whatever cards you wanted. So stop whining about the graphics cards - if you don't like it, change it ! Same goes for memory - ever see the Build to Order page ?
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Sorry. Don't follow. If I'm spending $2000 - $3000 on a computer, I shouldn't have to upgrade the hardware in it unless its for specific needs. The video cards in these machines belong in $400 PC's not $2000 - $3000 high end machines.
 
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