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I'm gonna bet it has something to do with this being a developer preview and not actually being 'released'.

I was referring 10.8.5 breaking the sleep function for many people, NOT the Mavericks Developer Preview (i.e. someone said they hope 10.9 fixes the sleep problem that 10.8.5 BROKE).
 
Tabs eh? Do they have dual-pane support? Otherwise, that means they still aren't even as advanced as XtraFinder and it works on Snow Leopard even.

ah, so use xtrafinder? Or forklift, or any of the dozen tab finder utilities out there?

Maverics finder allows you to drag and drop tags between the finder windows and pull them out so you can easily create a side by side tab view
 
I've noticed several cosmetic changes so far.

-iTunes: New Audiobook icon, New iCloud/iTunes Match download icon
-iBooks: epubs that are set to use iBooks as the default app now have an icon.
-Apple icon on bootup slides up and fades into the login screen Apple logo.

Apple logo animation is in ML
 
How it it Microsoft's problem if Apple made incompatible changes in a minor release?

Apple breaks things right and left - and the fans always blame the third parties for Apple's screw-ups.

It's not Apple's job to make sure other's software works. They change the OS to how they want, then others fix their software to work with it. It's the same with Windows, so don't get your panties in a wad.
 
How it it Microsoft's problem if Apple made incompatible changes in a minor release?

Apple breaks things right and left - and the fans always blame the third parties for Apple's screw-ups.

It's not Apple's job to make sure other's software works. They change the OS to how they want, then others fix their software to work with it. It's the same with Windows, so don't get your panties in a wad.

It *is* Apple's job to support an API that Apple has published for developers. If somebody is using a back door or undocumented API - of course Apple doesn't need to worry about changes.

And of course, if the new OS has additional features (and APIs) the 3rd parties will need to update to exploit the new stuff.

But Microsoft is *so* much better at release-to-release compatibility you should be embarrassed to say that Apple and Microsoft are the same in this regard. I have 10 year old apps that still install and run.
 
This build makes my Finder hang to the point where I have to reboot. Once rebooting, the login window doesn't show up, and I have to pull the chord to my external monitor and insert it again. Also, I can no longer drag movies into iTunes to add them to my library, I now have to activate list view to do so.

So far no more scrolling issues in Safari, though.
 
It *is* Apple's job to support an API that Apple has published for developers. If somebody is using a back door or undocumented API - of course Apple doesn't need to worry about changes.

And of course, if the new OS has additional features (and APIs) the 3rd parties will need to update to exploit the new stuff.

But Microsoft is *so* much better at release-to-release compatibility you should be embarrassed to say that Apple and Microsoft are the same in this regard. I have 10 year old apps that still install and run.

Neither Apple or Microsoft is at fault here, it's a major OS X update and Microsoft has to release a compatibility update to make Office 2011 work on Mavericks. Nothing more and nothing less.

Also, you're assuming that Microsoft is using all of Apple's APIs instead of custom-coding their own stuff. When it comes to their Mac apps, they have a history of using very old APIs for longer than they should be using them. They're always been the slowest to adopt their Mac apps to take advantage of the newest technologies.

As for compatibility, of course they're better than Apple for backward compatibility. Microsoft's whole business is based on being able to maintain their OS and APIs for at least half a decade.

Apple never cared and will keep moving forward, dropping compatibility for hardware older than 3 year olds any chance they can, and killing OS X versions as soon as the two successive major OS X updates are released.

Just stick with 10.8.x longer until Microsoft releases an update to fix the issue with 10.9. It is your choice to upgrade right away.
 
Wrong, we are talking about BETA software here, it's not up to Apple to make sure anything is compatible with exception of their own stuff upon release.

The statement is self-contradictory.

I agree that betas are designed to help find and fix these screw-ups before release. But they you say that Apple has no obligation to make the release compatible with any third party apps.

Which is it?
 
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How it it Microsoft's problem if Apple made incompatible changes in a minor release?

Apple breaks things right and left - and the fans always blame the third parties for Apple's screw-ups.

It's actually a major release under the hood and it could possibly be true that Microsoft's software on the Mac is a tad half-a$$ed anyway, it always seems like it :) It's certainly a second class citizen.

To be fair, the only new issue among current issues I have in Office 2011 for Mac I've noticed is the beach-ball on meeting reminders.
 
I'm so excited for this! I'm not a developer, but other posts here have said how good Mavericks' betas have been.

Honestly, I'm looking more forward to this than iOS 7. I'm relatively new to Mac (2 years) and I love my iPad and iPhone, but I still appreciate the power/art of a refined desktop OS. My Mac is still my most valuable asset for school.
 
The statement is self-contradictory.

I agree that betas are designed to help find and fix these screw-ups before release. But they you say that Apple has no obligation to make the release compatible with any third party apps.

Which is it?




OT - but a moron who has done more for liberty and freedom than anyone since Daniel Ellsberg.

Do you know what an OS is for? It's so the third parties can write apps for a common system that interfaces with hardware. Sure it would be nice for Apple to keep things compatible 100% of the time but it's up to the developers to update their apps. Its not Apple's job to find all incompatibilities and change the OS to accommodate thousands of apps. It's up to the developer to find incompatibilities and accommodate it to ONE common OS.
 
Apple has seeded the eighth Developer Preview of OS X Mavericks to developers, nearly two weeks after the release of the seventh Developer Preview. Registered developers can receive the update via the Software Update tool in the Mac App Store.

OS X Mavericks, which is expected to be released this fall, includes multiple new features like a tabbed Finder, full screen dual monitor capabilities, Safari improvements, and a new Maps app.

Apple is reportedly targeting a late October launch for OS X Mavericks.

Article Link: Apple Releases OS X Mavericks Developer Preview 8

I *want* that image (free of the advertising embellishments) as my desktop when Mavericks is released. It lacks all the brown leaves, but it sure does speak of "California Dreamin'"!
 
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