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Apple Releases Remote Desktop 3

KindredMAC said:
9:35am EST....
Apple Store back up..... what a crock of ***** reason to take the whole store down on a Tuesday morning..... How many does Apple Remote Desktop really benefit? Maybe 15% of all Mac users, if that?????

Where are the MacBook's to replace the iBooks???????

Bastards.....
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I use Remote Desktop and love the program - not perfect but like many things mac, simple to use. Yes, ssh is nice and free but it just is not as simple to "get" as ARD is - granted, if I had one to two machines I might use ssh but with a lab of 30+ ARD saves time.

Now, did the Apple store have to be down for this update - hardly. I can't believe this would put the entire store down. Maybe there was something else going on that we haven't found out about yet?
 
timmillwood said:
why is it so expensive?
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Because its not meant for you. To the people who need this sort of thing, spending $500 on a piece of software is not unusual.
 
KindredMAC said:
9:35am EST....
Apple Store back up..... what a crock of ***** reason to take the whole store down on a Tuesday morning..... How many does Apple Remote Desktop really benefit? Maybe 15% of all Mac users, if that?????

Where are the MacBook's to replace the iBooks???????

Bastards.....
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Calm down, your MacBook is coming. ARD does benefit me because as a part time IT, I can manage a lab from my high school I go to. Now I just got to add ARD 3 to the P.O.
 
xparaparafreakx said:
Calm down, your MacBook is coming. ARD does benefit me because as a part time IT, I can manage a lab from my high school I go to. Now I just got to a ARD 3 to the P.O.
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My whole complaint is about them taking the whole store down on a TUESDAY morning when everyone is waiting for big news of a MacBook or iPod Video. they could have done this update at 3am this morning.... not the usual 8:30am on a Tuesday when that is when they brinf out the big guns.
 
iMeowbot said:
It is. See the third column of this page.


I thought you had to pay for XP Pro to get the full thing?
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Xp pro and all windows servers since windows 2000 server have the remote desktop software built in. You can do 2 simultaneous connections to a machine for free, but if you need more then that then it starts to cost you. I don't know the cost off hand though. We use it extensively at work and often from home vpn into work then remote desktop into my development boxes. Couldn't live without this feature. Nice to see some upgrades to apples product, some of the features sound pretty nice.
 
there's no upgrade path for current owners of ARD 2.2? That's nuts. We have to buy it outright all over again?
 
Holy crap! He's saying what we're all thinking! :-D

KindredMAC said:
9:35am EST....
Apple Store back up..... what a crock of ***** reason to take the whole store down on a Tuesday morning..... How many does Apple Remote Desktop really benefit? Maybe 15% of all Mac users, if that?????

Where are the MacBook's to replace the iBooks???????

Bastards.....
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Upgrade Pricing?

Dang.
Our company just purchased RD2 a few weeks ago.
I don't suppose there is any discounted upgrade pricing?

lazyrighteye
 
timmillwood said:
why is it so expensive?
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At first it seems odd that it costs so much because the competition is free. VNC is free and ssh is included with Mac OS X. People who are managing many computers are likely at least a little bit sophisticated, enough to know at least how to set up and use ssh and VNC

So who buys this? I figure it's for organizations there it costs them $100/hr to keep the IT people on staff to then $400 is not a lot of money and if it makes their IT staff more productve there s a quick payback of the $400

For the rest of us the free tools work well. And (big AND here) the free tools are cross platform, work on Windows, Linux, Solaris and Macs
 
Include a version in OS X

I wish Apple would include a version with OS X. VNC sucks, and ARD for $299 is expensive for just the average user. I'd like something included in OS X similar to RDC on Windows XP.
 
ChrisA said:
...For the rest of us the free tools work well. And (big AND here) the free tools are cross platform, work on Windows, Linux, Solaris and Macs
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That's really a crucial point, when you think about it. You knew this was going to come out on the heels of Boot Camp because of the possibility of keeping an exclusively Macintosh network. The question I have is whether Apple built some cross-platform functionality into this latest release. If not, it seems like they're missing out on something.
 
ARD and Directory Services

I hope Apple doesn't think ARD takes the place of a good directory services (network management, deploying software, etc). For Apple to function well in the enterprise they'll need a good answer to Active Directory. I'm a Mac guy all the way but after being a network admin in an Active Directory environment Active Directory seems like a gift from god and I wonder if there's any equivelent from Apple. I've heard Open Directory doesn't compare, but I don't really know cuz I've never used it. Any thoughts?
 
MacVault said:
I wish Apple would include a version with OS X. VNC sucks, and ARD for $299 is expensive for just the average user. I'd like something included in OS X similar to RDC on Windows XP.
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You do know that all 10.4 comes with ARD 2.2 client...even on Intel...and it has VNC built in....you just need to supply a password and turn it on.

You can use Chicken of the VNC on OSX or Tight VNC on Windows to then control the client...

ARD is soooo much more than RDC because of all the additional features....the task server is incredible, and about time...The curain mode has been around for years in other MS products....We have 4500 clients, and this makes management that much easier....

Still not perfect, but great strides towards....

-Compufix
 
MacVault said:
I wish Apple would include a version with OS X. VNC sucks, and ARD for $299 is expensive for just the average user. I'd like something included in OS X similar to RDC on Windows XP.
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To quote others in this thread, it isn't for the average users. This is squarely in the Education and Enterprise IT environments. It is a little odd that they took the store down for this, but the day isn't over....

IT Admins around the country couldn't swipe their credit cards fast enough for this. This is NOT just VNC, this is desktop management like no other. And the added speed benefits, task server and curtain mode alone justify the cost (especially for EDU!). It's not cool new hardware, but we've been waiting for this for months. Now if the could only develop a lightweight client for windows, we could manage all the labs from one system! Oh the bliss.

And for those wondering about price. Ask Altiris or LanDesk about client prices. You're talking $50 at least per client. They can do more, but not much.
 
MacVault said:
I hope Apple doesn't think ARD takes the place of a good directory services (network management, deploying software, etc).
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They don't. That's what this is for.
 
carletonmusic said:
So long as it's faster than before. Managing computers in one building was fine, anything across town or across the country was ridiculously slow. :rolleyes:
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I agree, but I thought that was just because it was going over a T1?
 
KindredMAC said:
9:35am EST....
Apple Store back up..... what a crock of ***** reason to take the whole store down on a Tuesday morning..... How many does Apple Remote Desktop really benefit? Maybe 15% of all Mac users, if that?????

Where are the MacBook's to replace the iBooks???????

Bastards.....
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they took it down for one hour. i want a macbook too but dude... calm down.
 
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