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Apple Releases Remote Desktop 3
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KindredMAC said:
Everyone? There was no event planned for today. Nobody was expecting any big news today except for delusional fanboys. When it's time for new ibooks, we'll all know.
xPismo
macrumors 6502a
iMeowbot said:
But wouldn't a single user / home use version from Apple sell? I know I'd grab it.
Compufix said:
Oh, I did not know that. I guess I've already got a solution sitting right on my mac. Sweet. Time to get my Cube home server up and running (once, like, I find a cheap one). 🙂
*siigggghhhhhh* thank you Mr. Jobs.... I was REALLY looking forward to that release..................................those macbooks are never gonna come.
Which is a bit ironic for a product that is advertised with the words200paul said:
First-class upgrades
Installing software or updates to your network has never been this easy.
Our school had so much trouble with previous versions of ARD, with performance slowing to a crawl while screen-sharing, that we had to abandon using it. Now I'm wary to try throw good money after bad and buy a new version that might have the same problems.Installing software or updates to your network has never been this easy.
Since we were never able to diagnose it (screen-sharing would simply cut off after a few seconds to a minute) and the new version's description doesn't address that issue, there's no easy way to tell if they fixed whatever was plaguing us.
This is great! Seems like it's been forever since Apple has updated/changed Remote Desktop. Though, I guess they have had a lot on their plate recently.🙂
Unfortunately, Apple dropped support for OS 9 with ARD version 2, so I've been stuck with version 1.2. Very few of the Macs I administer run anything but OS 9.2.2, so version ARD 3 won't benefit me much. If only Apple supported OS 9. 🙁
Still, keep up the good work Apple!
Unfortunately, Apple dropped support for OS 9 with ARD version 2, so I've been stuck with version 1.2. Very few of the Macs I administer run anything but OS 9.2.2, so version ARD 3 won't benefit me much. If only Apple supported OS 9. 🙁
Still, keep up the good work Apple!
R.Youden
macrumors 68020
Has anyone watched the videos that are on the Apple web page? On the 'easy setup' tutorial under system preferences there is the icon for a logitech mouse!
If this has been made in-house by Apple (which I am sure it has been) isnt this a bit of egg on face for the mighty mouse development team?
If this has been made in-house by Apple (which I am sure it has been) isnt this a bit of egg on face for the mighty mouse development team?
weazle1098
macrumors regular
Whats wrong with the brushed look?
What's wrong with the brushed metal look it gived it a nice neutral feel, but at the same time makes it look pretty cool.
Lurch_Mojoff said:
What's wrong with the brushed metal look it gived it a nice neutral feel, but at the same time makes it look pretty cool.
Kormet said:
Why not use a an OS 9 machine to administer with and use Network Assistant? It's far more robust than ARD in regards to administering OS9 machines.
One thing is certain...there is NO other solution in the market, either for Macs or PCs, that matches ARD's elegance and simplicity...this update looks spectacular, and makes me want one even if I have no other machines to manage in my iMac/iBook world...Apple has outdone itself, again.
Mechcozmo
macrumors 603
lazyrighteye said:
Depends... I think it is within 14 days, that if Apple comes out with something newer you get upgraded. Call up a store and ask, that's the only way.
MacVault said:
You do know that ARD is just a bunch of extensions and modifications to the VNC protocol, which is how ARD can offer VNC access? VNC requires a bit more work to set up sometimes, with all the compression techniques, but it is hard to say that VNC sucks outright when ARD is based on it, which you're holding up so high.
Mechcozmo said:
Oh.. I did not know it was based on VNC. All I know about VNC is the screen refresh, etc sucks compared to RDC, dameware, etc -- from my experience anyway. Has Apple tweaked the VNC in ARD to perform better?
jsw
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As mentioned above, OS X supplies a VNC server for free. It just needs to be turned on, and VNC clients work fine with it. I admin my parents' Mac using CotVNC over the internet, and it works great. A bit slow due to their upload speeds, but fine. And free. Windows XP (Pro only, mind you, which costs a lot more than OS X) supplies essentially the same VNC-type capabilities, but they're slightly harder to set up.dwd3885 said:
ARD is vastly more sophisticated. For one thing, it allows many systems to be viewed at once. For another, it provides actual management capabilities beyond simply looking at desktops. I write software professionally to manage network firewalls, and I think ARD has an excellent UI and feature set, better than most or all other similar apps out there. At $499/unlimited, it's a steal. At $299/10, it's still a bargain.
If you only have a few Macs (or, really, any systems), just use VNC. It works fine. ARD is a much more sophisticated app targeted, as mentioned by others, at schools and corps. The average user has no need for it whatsoever.
This is not the type of app you just bundle in with the OS. 99% of all users would never have any use whatsoever for it. This is a specific, targeted app which is exactly the type of thing you'd sell separately.
arkmannj
macrumors 68000
my feature request (If it's not already in RD3)
This sounds very useful.
I just wish they could have a feature kinda like in MSN messenger for XP where someone could request help.
(and both parties be behind firewalls/NAT/etc.)
I think it would be cool if they could integrate it like the video/audio chat in iChat.
Example: When you are chatting with someone who has RD Admin tools installed a little button would appear that you could simply click to ask for help.
Even though I don't own a business, or manage LOTS of macs this would be very valuable to me to help with family and friends. I'd plop down $500 to be able to have my 80 year old grandpa (2000 miles away) be able to click one button and boom I can help him.
I know there's reverse VNC options and the like, but this way would just be much user friendly and very easy for family, friends, users and even in a business setting.
If RD3 does that, I'd be friggin' excited.
That aside I can still see why lots of admins would be excited about many of the new features.
This sounds very useful.
I just wish they could have a feature kinda like in MSN messenger for XP where someone could request help.
(and both parties be behind firewalls/NAT/etc.)
I think it would be cool if they could integrate it like the video/audio chat in iChat.
Example: When you are chatting with someone who has RD Admin tools installed a little button would appear that you could simply click to ask for help.
Even though I don't own a business, or manage LOTS of macs this would be very valuable to me to help with family and friends. I'd plop down $500 to be able to have my 80 year old grandpa (2000 miles away) be able to click one button and boom I can help him.
I know there's reverse VNC options and the like, but this way would just be much user friendly and very easy for family, friends, users and even in a business setting.
If RD3 does that, I'd be friggin' excited.
That aside I can still see why lots of admins would be excited about many of the new features.
