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Apple Releases Safari 3.1
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Safari 3.1 is nice and quicker than its predecessor.
However, I have grown accustomed to the webkit nighly builds.
It would be nice to see a comparison between Safari 3.1 and the latest Webkit.
However, I have grown accustomed to the webkit nighly builds.
It would be nice to see a comparison between Safari 3.1 and the latest Webkit.
I will install it at home, but it will have to do an awful lot more for it to replace Firefox 3 Beta 4.
Firefox just does too many things that Safari cannot. Such as true tab browsing (pop-ups going into new tabs instead of becoming new windows), extensions, etc. Plus Firefox is finally faster then even Safari 3.1 and is still more compatible with web sites then Safari (although the difference is narrowing).
There are only two things I wish Firefox had that Safari has. The cool find feature (that shades the page and highlights the words you search for) and keychain support. Not sure about the former, but the latter is being worked on.
Firefox just does too many things that Safari cannot. Such as true tab browsing (pop-ups going into new tabs instead of becoming new windows), extensions, etc. Plus Firefox is finally faster then even Safari 3.1 and is still more compatible with web sites then Safari (although the difference is narrowing).
There are only two things I wish Firefox had that Safari has. The cool find feature (that shades the page and highlights the words you search for) and keychain support. Not sure about the former, but the latter is being worked on.
I find these keyboard shortcuts are inconsistent. Any time the cursor is in a text box (such as the one I'm typing in now to make this post, or the url field at the top of the window), these shortcuts are trapped and used by the text box, not for switching tabs. Frustrated the heck out of me when this "feature" was first introduced (one of the Tiger updates). I even thought about filing a bug report.
Then I discovered Cmd-Shift-[ and Cmd-Shift-]. Same effect for switching tabs, but much more reliable. Always works, even when your cursor is in a text box.
Yep, sill no tab scrolling. Looks like we'll have to stick with firefox for the time being. Also firefox is getting much much better on the mac now, so watch out apple.
If you're on a Mac, it's built-into OS X, and therefore part of Safari for a few years; if you're on Windows, it's been there since the initial release.
Anyone else having unexpected behaviour in GMail? I can't use the shift key to get upper case characters any more, as it gets interpreted as a shortcut. 
Seems OK here, but it is really annoying in GMail.
*Note* - Seems like a GMail thing rather than Safari, I can switch to Plain Text view and it appears to work as expected...
Seems OK here, but it is really annoying in GMail.
*Note* - Seems like a GMail thing rather than Safari, I can switch to Plain Text view and it appears to work as expected...
I'm about to install it, but I have to say, being a web developer, I'm excited that it already supports HTML5 and CSS3... what pisses me off about that though is MS is probably NOT going to support those until a few years after they're the standard... how long did it take IE to moderately accept CSS2?
did this pop up in Software Update for anyone? i went ahead and downloaded Safari and while it was installing i checked but it didnt show up. probably because most of it had already been installed by then.
But if they code for web standards, then they get the users still running IE6 yelling at them for their "broken" pages. A huge portion of the web is still surfed using IE6 - only within the past couple of months has it been relegated to the #2 spot by IE7.
I totally understand the desire for standards compliance for interoperability reasons. But look at it pragmatically... If they code exclusively for web standards, and leave the IE6 users in the lurch, then they've alienated almost 40% of their potential customers. Conversely, if they code exclusively for IE6 quirks, and leave all strict standards-compliant users in the lurch, then they've only alienated around 20% of their potential customers.
Given those numbers, what incentive is there for a web master to care about web standards?
I can't wait to play around with CSS3 too.
I'm not too sure about the HTML5 part... I thought we were going to XHTML?
Oh man, I never knew those were there! Cool beans! Thanks!
Hey, when I "command-key 1 (or 2 or 3)" it actually opens the coerresponding bookmark in the Bookmarks Bar... and possibly a folder of bookmarks in the bookmark bar.. I dunno about that yet, because the folders have a bunch bookmarks in them... but it has a checkmark box for "auto tab"
That was a feature ADDED in the last version. If you don't want to see the dialog, turn the tabs off. The dialog only occurs when more than one tab is open.
A real coder will make a website for web standards (which are supported by Firefox, Safari, Opera and others, and partially by Internet Explorer) and then add patches for IE5/IE6/IE7, as it is much easier this way. As a bonus your website will still be functionnal in older browsers such as Netscape 3 (though it really won't look the same, at least people will be able to navigate and view the content).
If you code for IE6, you'll have problems for people using IE7 and all the other browsers anyway.
But supporting Web standards is less effort, and as its only 30% IE6 and 25% Web Standards its well worth supporting them, also otherwise you are preventing all Mac users from accessing your site.
Of course its best to support IE 6 AND web standards.