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Apple Releases Safari 4.0.4

jimoase said:
This site http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
takes 12 seconds to load and then 2 minutes and 40 seconds to complete rendering.

This Safari problem has existed since the transition from Safari 2.x to Safari 3.x and now into version after version of Safari 4.x

The result is jerky scrolling because of delayed user input, a delay of nearly a second.

This same site will render and animate with FireFox before you can get your finger off the mouse click.

I believe Safari has a core design issue for this problem to remain after 3 years of nightly builds of WebKit and several releases of Safari.

Please try this site and report your findings to Apple.
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Listen, I don't want to sound like a plain Apple fanboy, but just because a specific site or some sites don't 'act right' against Safari, that isn't qualified as a browser-glitch. Its more likely that the site designers have to correct/ clean-up the code (or maybe even reconstruct it) rather than the Safari-team having to adapt to their 'non-universal' coding. It's not that Safari is 100% perfect, but it's definitely one of the most standards compliant browser (and that's not just an Apple statement, but internet pro's verification and from my own personal experience with website construction - Also, it's the most 'forgiving' browser of all when it comes to my coding-errors) and last but not least, the ONLY browser that passes 100% the Acid3 test page.

Finaly, when a site is 'neatly built' (without any non-standard coding or browser-depended code snippets), Safari's page-rendering beats all other browsers hands down... And this is not just the results from my long hours of browser-testing which includes all major ones (Firefox, Opera, IE8, Google Chrome, etc.), but also the results from all major browser-tests on the internet!

PS. Webkit FTW!!! ;-)
 
plinden said:
Install Click to Flash.


Install Click to Flash.


Talk to Adobe about this (and install Click to Flash)



"... Mozilla Firefox had the largest percentage of Web vulnerabilities, followed by Apple Safari, whose browser showed a vast increase in exploits, due to vulnerabilities reported in the Safari iPhone browser"

Unless you're running mobile Safari on your computer, I don't think that article says anything about this version of Safari ... it doesn't say enough to come to any conclusions anyway.
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As posted by a commenter, go to this link regarding that study and you'll see the offending company is an MS stooge:

http://www.cenzic.com/pr/20060718/
 
NT1440 said:
That page loaded in just under 3 seconds.....
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21 seconds here. Then the CPU fan kicked on. And then...beachball. :(


I'm bookmarking that site under EPIC BROWSER GAUNTLET OF TRUTH.

EDIT: Rendered the site in Firefox. Page loads in 11 seconds then runs fine.

Back to the drawing board, Apple.
 
hutchman said:
Still lame. Firefox 3 works fine on iGoogle and the Apple Store (esp. once you click a product). Safari 4.0.4 continues to flail on both. Safari not working with the store.apple.com is a wee bit ironic.
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Both iGoogle and Apple Store work peachy for me. *Shrug*

jimoase said:
This site http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
takes 12 seconds to load and then 2 minutes and 40 seconds to complete rendering.

This Safari problem has existed since the transition from Safari 2.x to Safari 3.x and now into version after version of Safari 4.x

The result is jerky scrolling because of delayed user input, a delay of nearly a second.

This same site will render and animate with FireFox before you can get your finger off the mouse click.

I believe Safari has a core design issue for this problem to remain after 3 years of nightly builds of WebKit and several releases of Safari.

Please try this site and report your findings to Apple.
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Works fine for me

Safari seems faster and good thing Inquisitor and ad-block still works

Also Safari is one the lightest apps on my HDD now...after trimming anyway
 

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RazHyena said:
21 seconds here. Then the CPU fan kicked on. And then...beachball. :(


I'm bookmarking that site under EPIC BROWSER GAUNTLET OF TRUTH.

EDIT: Rendered the site in Firefox. Page loads in 11 seconds then runs fine.

Back to the drawing board, Apple.
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Whoa, whats your rig?

I'm not even on powerful hardware, just the new 13" base model MBP with 4gb of RAM and a new 500gb hitachi drive thrown in.
 
For cripes sake, every single stinking thing that comes through Software Update requires a restart, why couldn't they have released this with the .2 patch? :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
NT1440 said:
Whoa, whats your rig?

I'm not even on powerful hardware, just the new 13" base model MBP with 4gb of RAM and a new 500gb hitachi drive thrown in.
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Well, you're significantly faster than mine. :p

2.1GHz C2D, GMA X3100, 4GB RAM. Whitebook

I think Safari is going on the backburner again. Firefox is faster once again for some reason.
 
jimoase said:
This site http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
takes 12 seconds to load and then 2 minutes and 40 seconds to complete rendering.

This Safari problem has existed since the transition from Safari 2.x to Safari 3.x and now into version after version of Safari 4.x

The result is jerky scrolling because of delayed user input, a delay of nearly a second.

This same site will render and animate with FireFox before you can get your finger off the mouse click.

I believe Safari has a core design issue for this problem to remain after 3 years of nightly builds of WebKit and several releases of Safari.

Please try this site and report your findings to Apple.
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I have no problems with this site (and latest safari update). The page loads in a few seconds and goes into the dynamic weather map loop.

On a 2008 8-core MacPro with 16 GB of RAM.
 
Still Lacking

No blue progress bar
No snapback in the address bar

Back to Safari 3 (gosh I love Time Machine)
 
More perfect reliability of Safari. :cool:
Flash looks like its running a little lower on YouTube than it did a week ago.
 
RazHyena said:
I'm bookmarking that site under EPIC BROWSER GAUNTLET OF TRUTH.
.
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My Safari 4.0.4 chokes on that site too. Takes forever to start animating and then two-finger scrolling around is super herky-jerky. But the latest Firefox (ironically, 32 bit instead of Safari's 64 bit) is smooth and fast.
 
Safari works fast and just about perfectly, as far as I can tell. Every single one of the so-called "problematic" pages that people have posted here load within a few seconds and run smoothly with no beachballs. This is on a 5-year-old G5 too (running 10.4.11...maybe that has something to do with it?).

--Eric
 
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