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Never mind them

Where are the idiots who will complain about this software update, saying that Apple is neglecting MacBook Pros, Mac Pro, 30" Cinema Displays, et cetera ad nauseam?
Never mind them, what about the people who complain about the imaginary people who haven't complained about anything yet?
 
WYSIWYG Editing?

I'd love to move back to Safari fully, especially since Firefox 3.6 seems to be playing up for me quite a bit, but the main thing holding me back is the lack of text editing in forums and sites like Blogger.

Does anyone know how to fix this? A plug-in perhaps? Anything?

I'd rather move to one single browser than switching between two.
 
Only Apple has this prestige to get even their browser updates on front page news. I wonder if the Windows fans get front page news updates when Internet Explorer gets updates? :D

That's not true. MS usually gets front page exposure on theirs, too. It's usually stated something like: Microsoft announces 16 emergency patches to address exploits. Please see matrix chart below to determine which OS, service release, browser combinations are at risk. :eek:
 
No fix for my issues which made me switch to Chrome. Quite often if I click a link in Safari it will give me the Loading animation but not do anything. Second click is the charm. Doesn't sound like something too serious but it just kept happening over and over.

The other issue is that Safari prevented automatic sleep. If I manually made the computer sleep it would do so correctly, but if I waited for the power saving settings to do their job while Safari was open the computer would simply not go into full sleep. The screen would turn off but the hard drive never did.

And they haven't changed the fact that Glims is virtually a requirement in Safari to make is as useable as other browsers.
 
I'd love to move back to Safari fully, especially since Firefox 3.6 seems to be playing up for me quite a bit, but the main thing holding me back is the lack of text editing in forums and sites like Blogger.

Does anyone know how to fix this? A plug-in perhaps? Anything?

I'd rather move to one single browser than switching between two.

Sounds like it's the sites that need to change, not the browser. There are plenty of WYSIWYG text editors that work fine on safari - like the one I'm typing in right now.
 
Hmmm, wonder if this also addresses the problem with the BT Home Hub (which is actually a Thompson Speedtouch device) whereby you can't get into Advanced Settings - enter username and password but the Advanced options don't appear in the left-hand menu.

This is a known issue with the hub and a couple of browsers, I just had a new model installed at home and the issue has gone away - the issue isn't a browser one it's a homehub one (better to use a different product anyway...)
 
This is a known issue with the hub and a couple of browsers, I just had a new model installed at home and the issue has gone away - the issue isn't a browser one it's a homehub one (better to use a different product anyway...)

Ah, thanks. The gf has just moved in and brought her HH with her, which is the newer (curved) model so I may swap them. Having said that, the main reason for needing to go into Advanced is to add new devices to the WiFi access list but since I've just bought an AirPort Extreme I will be disabling WiFi on the hub anyway.
 
Top Sites certainly is faster. I had a problem running WebCT (my university's student portal) on 4.0.4. There was a Java error message when I ran the web browser check-up tool. Reinstalled Java 6 Update 10 and now updated Safari. Still no go - as in I can login to WebCT but cant do anything beyond that. I get the stupid spinning beachballs :(
 
Oh, and don't get me started on the cluster XXXXX that is Aperture 3 from ACE, or the dated PowerMac era designs of the MacPro and 30 inch ACE-CD. Geeze, the design in 7 years old. To give perspective here, seven years ago, Kevin Costner was relevant to cinema - yep really makes you think.

uhu, was wondering about this as well... the design changes and improvements on the iMac / PowerMac is a little slow those last couple of years...

ok, they're good now, but i'm wondering what the next version will be.
 
Safari is NOT my favorite browser- I prefer the way Chrome handles tabbing and automatically saves the windows you had open in the case of a program crash. Along with the general look/feel.

However, Safari is so much quicker on my new Macbook. Leaps and bounds over both FF and Chrome. Unfortunately it's going to be my default browser until the others pick up the pace.
 
Hellojamie,

If you look in the History menu of Safari, you will see a "Reopen all windows from last session".
It opens the same windows with the same tabs as were last open. I know it works well for quitting, I haven't tested for a crash.

Come to think of it, the reason why I don't know what happens in the case of a crash is I don't believe Safari has ever crashed on me since I installed Snow Leopard. I don't think I've had an OS crash either.
Other than Flash (frustrating memory seapage), I don't believe I have any third party plugins installed.

I really enjoy Safari. I tried Chrome for Mac very early in the beta release but I don't think it was as fast as Safari. I very rarely see the spinning beachball in Safari, but I do have 4GB of RAM, but also run a Win 7 VM all of the time.

Happy computing!

Safari is NOT my favorite browser- I prefer the way Chrome handles tabbing and automatically saves the windows you had open in the case of a program crash. Along with the general look/feel.

However, Safari is so much quicker on my new Macbook. Leaps and bounds over both FF and Chrome. Unfortunately it's going to be my default browser until the others pick up the pace.
 
Try Chrome for Mac; it places its tabs on top, albeit with a bezel above them that makes the whole window much more manageable than Safari's implementation of the same.

Yeah... No, i think i'll stick to my Snow leopard modded Safari beta ;)
 
lol after I updated Safari I booted it up and had it crash on me for the first time. I have Apple Start as my hp and as it was loading the RSS box I clicked on Top Sites and then the pinwheel. :( Had to FQ which I thought was ironic since this is supposed to be a performance update.

I had been using FF on Windows for a loooong time before I got my Mac. I recently installed the Mac version of Firefox to give it a whirl and honestly it feels the same as Safari, but on Windows Firefox blows Safari away big time. I know with FF you can get thousands of add-ons but I usually don't bother with skins and extensions, I just want a solid web browsing experience and Safari in its natural form does it as well as any browser I've used.

I haven't used Chrome on Mac yet but on Windows it's a force to be reckoned with, probably the fastest on the market. But I would say as far as Mac goes, you can't go wrong with either Firefox OR Safari.
 
This is a point release security update, not a major update.

Well, it's more than just a security update. I realize though , looking at the version number change, that it's not meant to be a major or even minor update but that it basically just fixes bugs and inefficiencies, so it certainly makes perfect sense that they didn't include anything new here and I'm not complaining, it simply would have been a nice surprise. I don't know how strict Apple are about adding no new features when going from a x.y.m to an x.y.n version :)
 
Isn't that just a fancy way to avoid mentioning ADOBE FLASH?

Regarding SVG? No.. SVG is an open, XML-based, standardized way of doing vector graphics in web browsers, not requiring proprietary plugins. It's been a W3C standard since 1998 and is pretty much invented and pioneered by Adobe. Widespread adoption is hindered by Flash and the almost complete lack of support in Internet Explorer.
 
Download the WebKit Nightly. It scales properly giving one the vertical/horizontal pair of scrollbars to respect the original size of the SVG and allowing one to see it all.

Safari 4.0.5 is a bug fix for less pressing matters.

The next major revision of Safari adds a lot more capabilities than 4.0.5.

Hardware accelerated on Leopard [not just Snow Leopard] when WebGL configured is now working.

Right now they are testing against Flash 10.1.d51 to work around bug crashers in Flash.

I don't know if they will bump it to Safari 4.1 or 5.0 but the next major version will have 3D Transforms, WebGL hardware accelerated graphics, SVG 1.2 compliance and more of the HTML 5 spec.
Are all these features in the latest Webkit nightlies? Or are they features specific to the next version of Safari? Because I've been really looking forward to WebGL on both Firefox, IE, and now Safari, I guess!
 
Unfortunately this update didn't fix the one major problem that eventually pushed me to switch to Chrome. And that's the memory consumption. Start Safari and it takes something around 150MB of RAM. Use it for few hours to couple days and it can take up to 1Gig of RAM, no windows open - which is beyond ridiculous. Chrome eats less than 60MB of RAM when there's no windows open.

I hope that either Apple fixes that memory issue, or Google improves the New Tab page. I like Safari's Top Sites a lot. With Safari, I didn't use bookmarks for everyday sites I visited. I just had every page on Top Sites which then told if a web site had changed since last time I visited it. Very convenient, and reduces the "is there anything new on this site? nope, what about this site? nope" -type of browsing. Now that I switched to Chrome, I feel like going back to stone age of web browsing.
 
Can't speak for anyone else, but Top Sites is much faster. I actually like Top Sites but don't use it due to the speed, but now I'm using it. Significantly faster on my machine.
 
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