Apple Releases Safari 5.1.2 with 'White Flash' and PDF Viewing Fixes

[lukemcurley]

Wow, Windows version still has a massive bug! Reported in the beta, still not fixed. This is the 3rd release of Safari with the back button bug.

On Windows 7 64-bit, if you press the back button it closes all the tabs!

See thread online:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3237813

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Ha! No, not that it matters, but I did go over 60 days once on my old MBP without a restart. I guess I like the feeling that I know OS X doesn't need to be restarted every so often as compared to my Win7 PC at the office.

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Have you tried 60 days with Lion?

 

[doctor-don]

What are you stealing from the web that you need a save as? Just kidding.

It's not there because it's a ridiculous excess. Very few people save content directly from the web...those who do, use more intuitive and modern ways....like dragging and dropping.

For clickable downloads, there is virtually no reason why you need to rename the file immediately, if ever. If you're that obsessed, you rename it any time you want.

For most people, when they click download, they want it to DOWNLOAD, not be presented with an are you sure dialogue, which is exactly what a "save as" dialogue serves as.

One problem has been that Safari 5.0.6 (I'm still on Leopard) will allow me to save as a file; but after saving to the same place twice, I have to repeat the process of finding the location where I want to save the file - even when it is the same location as the previous files saved.

 

[nefan65]

Still no "save as" for downloads?
It is amazing how those designers are so blind, keeping such a basic UI functionality out. Completely deal breaker for me. Fire those guys right now please.

Command S is your friend...

 

[doctor-don]

Funny, I say the same thing about Firefox. Second only to IE as the worst browser ever.

One of my financial sites will not display what the site says it will when I am in Safari; I have to use Firefox to read my monthly utility statement.

In Safari, on some commercial sites, all of the buttons are not displayed, but they are there when I access the page using Firefox.

Consequently, I would suggest that people learn to live with two (or more) browsers until programmers get everything to the point their pages work in all browsers.

 

[Drunken Master]

Why would people torture themselves and use Safari, one of the worst browsers out there.

Judging by your sig, I can tell you have no biases. Any facts to back up those outlandish claims?

Seriously though, Chrome is no fun sometimes, IE sucks, Firefox fell by the wayside ages ago. I guess we could all use Opera.

 

[MacNut]

Guess i'll give safari another chance. I really hope this fixes the stability issues. My policy for every safari update is that if i get one single beach ball crash, it's back to chrome for me. I like the safari interface, but as of now chrome has been much more stable. Hopefully this update will be the one to finally fix that.

I prefer the Chrome interface, it looks more modern, plus the fact that it doesn't crash like Safari does.

 

[aliensporebomb]

Ugh

Um, guys, has anyone noticed that this thing if you reload a browser window it reloads all of the tabs and windows you happen to have open? Awful.

If you have 20 browser windows open your system seizes to a crawl while they ALL reload.

 

[xlii]

Um, guys, has anyone noticed that this thing if you reload a browser window it reloads all of the tabs and windows you happen to have open? Awful.

If you have 20 browser windows open your system seizes to a crawl while they ALL reload.

I just tried that and only the window I reloaded... reloaded. The other tabs didn't reload. I noticed no speed down.

 

[bigpics]

I remember people used to watch their uptime and try to set new records back when 47 days was an incredible achievement. I think it mostly went away shortly after Windows XP arrived (let alone OS X 10.3-ish).

Yep. (altho' I never came close to that on XP - Vista yes and Tiger, easily.)

Back in my Commodore 64 and DOS 3.1 days, tho', I felt as if I was erasing a "sentient's" life experience when I restarted. It was like Keir Dullea pulling the core memory out of Hal 9000....

 

[S.B.G]

Back in the old days, I used to see Unix and Netware servers routinely hit 1 year of uptime and more. But in today's world, valuing uptime is the enemy of computer security. Long uptimes (47 days doesn't remotely qualify, BTW) just mean you've needlessly left your machine potentially exploitable - nothing more.

Not true. There hasn't been any Apple updates that required a restart in that 47 day time frame regarding my iMac. I keep all my machines up-to-date.

Have you tried 60 days with Lion?

Nope. This is the longest stretch I've gone with Lion so far. Now at 48 days 8 hours. Since there are no security fixes in this update, I may just hold out a while longer.

 

[Azathoth]

I can hold my breath longer that my Air takes to reboot Thank you, SSD!

But why does a Safari update require a reboot? I thought only MS did things such as incorporating the browser deeply into the OS...

 

[bigpics]

That likely has nothing to do with it. It is estimated that there are about 1.2 billion PCs users. Over a billion of those users are running some variant of Windows. About 500 million users are running XP. This represents about half Microsoft's installed base. About 94 million people are running the Mac OS. Less than 25 percent of the Mac installed base uses Leopard, so this is about 23 million people.

So the answer seems obvious Apple is supporting XP because roughly 500 million people use it. Apple is not supporting Leopard because about 23 million people use it. It is a matter of where are you going to sink your limited resources.

I was way pleased to hear that VMWare's latest Fusion will support Virtual Mac OS sessions as well as Windows, so that Lion-owning Mac users will be able to run Snow Leopard (and therefore Rosetta [and therefore all their fave still functional PPC apps]).

Note: Tiger and native PPC OS's are not supported - but Windows 98 SE (!) is. As are Windows 3.1, Windows 95, MS-DOS 6.x (!!) and versions of Netware, Suse, RedHat, Free BSD, Solaris and others....

PS: Looking for the company's spelling I chanced on a Cyber Monday sale through today - www.vmware.com/Fusion-Sale

 

[macjunk(ie)]

Cheers, In the meantime I had rebooted again and now fans have gone quiet. If it does it again should stop the process? or should I stop it anyway? This is my first mac so still learning so many thanks for your input.

I killed the process. It reloads the content in the browser though. Be warned. But CPU calms down after that...

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Are we sure it's not some third party plug-in involved?

Do you have Flip4Mac installed?
I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere it could be involved.

We'll seem I have removed it an so far I haven't got the ”reload all tabs” issue again.

Well...I don't see a Flip4Mac plugin anywhere...I do have 1Password and ClickToFlash extensions installed...hoping that is not the problem (wonderful extensions!)

 

[Mix]

for some reason I get lag on youtube now.

 

[Mums]

After I upgraded Safari last night Mission Control went completely blank. If I click at the top of the screen where I remember the Spaces are, it will open them, but I can't see any of them. I've restarted several times, shut down the computer - no change.

It was definitely the Safari update that did this, as I have changed nothing else.

It's really frustrating. Apple please fix this.

 

[topperdog]

You are kidding right? Apple abandoned PPC 5 years ago...

PPC's work fine, not our fault Apple decided to stop support and make us sit on OS 10.5. Can't justify blowing over $3000 for a new audio workstation just so I can have Mac Lion. Be nice if Apple supported older PPC's with a stripped down Lion version, but that would mean they cared.

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And Windows XP was discontinued when???

C'mon Apple, this is ridiculous treatment to your own customers and loyal followers!

Just amazing to me that SAFARI updates are available to XP users, but not Leopard or Tiger users.

It's just unbelievable to me.

While I have an Intel Mac, I still don't have Snow Leopard or Lion and have never seen a compelling need for either, but I guess Apple is forcing an upgrade on me while still supporting Windows XP. Go figure.

One of my Powermac G5s died this past month and I switched that machine out for an old Powermac G4/Mirrored Door and I was amazed at what a completely capable machine it still was after all these years.

Yet Apple gives better support to Windows XP users?

That's just insane.

My sentiments exactly. It isn't just with Safari, it's with their whole line of software. I still have my G3 PPC running, and it's faster than a lot of copmuters I have to work with at work, just not supported by the company that built it.

 

[SteinMaster]

It requires a restart! Bummer. There goes 47 days and 11 hours of uptime on my iMac! Maybe I'll wait for a while longer since I don't have any of the issues in this fix.

Why is uptime important on an iMac? I know how important it is for my wife, but not sure why it's important for the computer.

 

[potatis]

So Apple has stopped supporting Leopard / 10.5? Will the next iTunes, iPhones etc also require Snow Leopard / 10.6?

 

[mofunk]

Hmmmm how odd?? When I updated Safari to 5.0 I started seeing my screen flash. So when 5.1.1 came out, I was hoping it would fix it. Then I trekked to the Apple store only to have a Genius dude look at me as if I was speaking a foreign language when I said my SCREEN FLASHES... lets hope this works.

 

[S.B.G]

Why is uptime important on an iMac?

In my case, it's not at all important. The only time I can see uptime being important is when it's being run in a server environment and it's a part of some type of critical infrastructure.

 

[Shearwater]

I never suffered from.......

.....white flash!!!!

Until I updated Safari.

Safari now 'flashes' or 'flickers' on my MBP....anyone else?

 

[brdeveloper]

People still use Safari?

Very good point. OS makers are in the bottom end on browser development. Chrome, Firefox and Opera are better options by far.

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One of my financial sites will not display what the site says it will when I am in Safari; I have to use Firefox to read my monthly utility statement.

In Safari, on some commercial sites, all of the buttons are not displayed, but they are there when I access the page using Firefox.

Consequently, I would suggest that people learn to live with two (or more) browsers until programmers get everything to the point their pages work in all browsers.

I use Firefox for development as Firebug still is the best debug utility for CSS and Ajax. I try to test in Chrome and sometimes IE8+ browsers. Safari uses the same rendering engine of Chrome, so I don't spend too much time testing on it. "Work in all browsers" the same way is nearly impossible except if all of them would share the same libraries. However, in that case they would be the same browser with different themes.

W3C specs are not that clear and unambiguous as common sense suggests.

 

[mofunk]

.....white flash!!!!

Until I updated Safari.

Safari now 'flashes' or 'flickers' on my MBP....anyone else?

Yes Mine is still doing it. After the update there is still no change or improvement. It started around the last two updates. Probably Safari 5.0 #Applefail

 

[doctor-don]

And again today Safari became unresponsive.

Activity Monitor reports that Shared Memory Size is 16,777,216.00 TB.

How can this be?