Ya, by now we should know that this sort of thing is Apples MO.... and I'm ok with it.
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Apple Releases Second Beta of iOS 4.3 to Developers
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Ya, by now we should know that this sort of thing is Apples MO.... and I'm ok with it.
The 5-finger one, sure. I suspect, though, that 'gestures' will grow to be a whole thing on both the iPad and the iPhone and will include many others.
Right now there are many gestures within apps but very few system-wide ones. Things like "hold to save a photo" or "hold to select text" are some universal ones, but I bet we'll get more that work everywhere like that and it'll be a big new "thing" to announce.
So, yeah, the iPhone won't get all the same gestures the iPad has, but I bet they'll both get a bunch.
The gestures are AMAZING! And not glitchy at all! Why would they remove them
I'm already hooked on them!
They are not removing them.
The currently need to be enabled through Xcode, and that will be the case in the final 4.3 too.
It's for developers only at the moment.
iPhone 3 / 3GS / 4 are perma-jailbroken due to flaws in the hardware itself.
If you're asking about an untethered-jailbreak, well, 4.2.1 hasn't even been fully cracked yet. I'm sure 4.3 fixed whatever exploits were known in 4.2.1.
4.3 will have to be final before we know if it is an untethered-jailbreak.
The gestures suck. I REALLY hope Apple doesn't, and never implements them. The problem isn't the gesture itself, that's fine. The problem is then you have this command that will force many apps to change their UI (music apps, games, etc), and will be a disconnecting experience for most users. If they accidentaly gesture and don't realize it, they'll think the app has froze. There's nothing intuitive about it, rather than the big giant home button that screams "press me! press me!" So for developers and UI cohesion, I really hope these gestures stay far away.
Don't some apps use four or five fingers gestures? I'm thinking they are holding the gestures back from 4.3 to give developers a chance to rethink and rework their apps not to use them. Having the system wide gestures not work or do different things in certain apps would be a user experience nightmare. Apps with four or five finger gestures are probably going to have to be changed to be iOS 5 tested and approved. That's my guess.
It's amazing how quickly some of you jump to conclusions based on something so flimsy. Finger gestures show up for testing in a 4.3 developer beta release ... therefore Apple is going to use it to force people to upgrade to iPad 2 to get it.
Relax, people.
Relax, people.
Disappointed as well. I hope 4.4 (or whatever adds the final, debugged gesture system) comes soon after 4.3! It’s true that this feature is unfinished: there are videos on YouTube of it freezing up.
Don’t worry, though, users want this, and Apple clearly likes it on their end too (which is why they put it out there.) If we got our orientation lock back, then this should be a no-brainer
Just not as soon These gestures are MUCH quicker than clicking in and out of a middle-step app switcher. The home button is needed because, as you point out, it’s discoverable. But as a shortcut, these gestures are great.
And since so few apps (really, we’re not talking "many") do anything important with those particular 4+ finger gestures, I think it’s a good trade-off. Good enough to not even be worth a preference for it... but there IS a preference setting for it
So we already have a potential solution for users of those few apps.
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That was my first thought too. I really really hope they don't actually do that.
I think there saving the gestures for 5.0 and the new iPad as well.
A bit of a random thing to bring up but when are they going to add voice controls to the iPad? I can already enable it by jailbreaking and it works near perfectly so why haven't they? It litterally would take 1 programmer about an hour to import it over from the iPhone and disable phone call controls with a graphic designer taking about 2 hrs to update the UI? It's a complete no brainer and we are still waiting.
How would a 5-finger gesture work if an app itself used a 5-finger gesture? That would be pretty annoying if it closed out and went to the home screen...
Sooner.
The Verizon iPhone is going to be shipping with 4.3 already installed on February 10th (maybe even February 3rd), and given that the first beta was just release 1 week ago, these betas seems to be moving rather fast leading to an earlier release (rather than later).
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I'm bummed! I was looking forward to the 4 and 5 finger gestures.I think it would be super cool if when you swipe to change app they would have an overlay that looks like "Alt+Tap" on Mac. So you could do a quick app jump and see at least how many times you need to swipe to get what you wanna go to.
I'm bummed! I was looking forward to the 4 and 5 finger gestures.I think it would be super cool if when you swipe to change app they would have an overlay that looks like "Alt+Tap" on Mac. So you could do a quick app jump and see at least how many times you need to swipe to get what you wanna go to.
Only a week between the first beta and the second compared to the usual two? It think Apple wants this out soon.
I played around the the gestures pretending I didn't have a home button on my iPad for a day or two just to see what it was like. The five finger pinch to go home was silly IMHO. Easier to just press a button. Then if you wanted to go to search, but were on a different home screen, you would have to swipe to it anyway. Clicking once to go to the main home screen then again for search is easier. I do like the 4 finger swipes to bring up the multi-tasking bar and to switch between apps though.
The gestures are AMAZING! And not glitchy at all! Why would they remove them
Too many developers complained. It would break too many of their DJ apps, music apps (pianos, guitars), single device multiplayer games, remote trackpad simulators, etc. etc.
Perhaps there were even ADA complaints.
This is why it is not being released yet, Apple and the Developers need to find a common ground to make this feature useful without interfering with current apps.
Apple right now is just looking for feedback and it even says it in the article
Two good guesses, I think!
Well, an up-swipe pretty much does that with the current 4.3 system (or just use the Home button). I like having no overlay, nothing between you and your apps, just swiping whole screens back and forth. And an app-switcher in the first place is very PC-like, not touchscreen-like. This new method makes me like multitasking in a way the regular recents-list never did. It’s like your screen is really 10 feet wide, and you’re panning from app to app! (It also lets you peek at some text in a recent app without even switching: swipe partway to a game walkthrough site, say, but don’t let go, you can just move back to the game after reading the next tip.)
I had an original iPhone and iPod touch. I never experienced any of the problems people supposedly had. I always did clean installs though, I never upgraded. Upgrading is always a guaranteed way of messing things up. When doing major OS updates, whether its iOS 3 to 4, or Windows, or OS X, it's best to start fresh.
Apple will say that the original iPad can't handle it.
haha yeah. Just like the original iPhone supposedly couldn't handle MMS because of the "antenna". Even though MMS was part of the GPRS standard and many of us with the original iPhone spent all too much time on AT&T's GPRS network. Let's not forget the jailbreak apps that unlocked the functionality built-in to the OS that Apple had disabled and MMS worked just fine.
Apps don't stay "open" in the background.
Your system would make things complicated, and not very user friendly.
You should research how apple's 'multitasking' works.
That's exactly what I was talking about.
From what I understand there is an Untethered 4.3 Jailbreak being saved for the final release, but Some people already have it??
It's a little confusing.