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If you break the remote, you need a new one. Key facts: the remote is made of glass and a new one costs an eye popping $79. You can find victims of this already in several threads.
and the same goes for any iOS device which is way more expensive than the Siri Remote? With AppleCare the replacement cost is only $29 or something like that.
 
This is both a good and bad idea. Some people use different logins for different content providers....
Not entirely true. I use XFinity and for almost all my content apps on AppleTV I authenticate with XFinity. CNNGo, ESPN, FXNow etc etc. So a single account or multiple accounts (In a content app the user would then select the account from a drop-down) that a user can configure once would definitely help. We already do this with Twitter and Facebook on iOS. I am not sure why this needs be different on tvOS.
 
and the same goes for any iOS device which is way more expensive than the Siri Remote? With AppleCare the replacement cost is only $29 or something like that.

I think you've lost some context. The point is the remote app, if it worked, could eat into sales of replacement remotes. Not my claim, I'm just explaining the logic.

Edit: while we're talking though, there's a difference between profiting off iPhones and remotes. Most iPhone profit is made off of people's desire to own a nice product. 100% of Siri Remote profit is made off of users' misfortune, and likely most of that because the remote is very fragile compared with remotes of yore. It's a little calculated and callous IMHO.
 
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I think you've lost some context. The point is the remote app, if it worked, could eat into sales of replacement remotes. Not my claim, I'm just explaining the logic.
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Ah, I see the logic in that but I really don't think that's the reason behind Apple not updating the remote app. I think it may have something to do with the current limitation of only one Siri remote that can be paired at a time. A remote app could count as potentially another Siri remote which is not allowed in the current tvOS iteration.

Having said that Apple allows old Apple TV remotes to control the new Apple TV (While the Siri Remote is paired). So potentially the remote app could be allowed as-is to hook up. I am not sure why not but definitely not to earn more money with replacement remotes :)
 
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This is both a good and bad idea. Some people use different logins for different content providers....

I would love this option. I have Comcast (sucks) and it is tedious when you have to enter in all your info for EVERY single APP...and it is the more the merrier when ATV forgets that the APP was authenticated, and you have to do it all over again.
 
Ah, I see the logic in that but I really don't think that's the reason behind Apple not updating the remote app. I think it may have something to do with the current limitation of only one Siri remote that can be paired at a time. A remote app could count as potentially another Siri remote which is not allowed in the current tvOS iteration.

Having said that Apple allows old Apple TV remotes to control the new Apple TV (While the Siri Remote is paired). So potentially the remote app could be allowed as-is to hook up. I am not sure why not but definitely not to earn more money with replacement remotes :)

The best reason I can think of is that the app couldn't support Siri. Users would keep trying to press the home button, thus backgrounding the app and activating iPhone Siri and not ATV Siri.
 
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The best reason I can think of is that the app couldn't support Siri. Users would keep trying to press the home button, thus backgrounding the app and activating iPhone Siri and not ATV Siri.
This can be too. Apple may be working on a better UI/UX paradigm. If Apple somehow makes text input more efficient then there would be less complaints about the remote app not working. More than simple text input (which is a pain) entering passwords with everyone sitting around is really uncomfortable.
 
Can somebody please explain to me what is so great about using an iPad or iPhone as a remote for the Apple Tv? I just don't get it - why do I want to tie up another device to control another unless that is the only way I can stream audio/video I want to hear?

I use it to control my content on the apple tv 3 on the bedroom and studio. And text entry was way beyond convenient on apps like youtube. I am looking to upgrade the ATV3 in the studio with the new one and this is a concern, however the guy below gave me a great idea on the content front of the app.

Text entry on the new remote seems to be a bit of a pain.

I have 2 of the new ATV4s and was very annoyed when I found out that my beloved remote app no longer worked, primarily because I used it to control content from my fairly extensive local iTunes library. But then I discovered the Plex app for ATV4, which has a companion iOS app that allows me to use my phone as a remote control for manipulating content from the Plex server, not unlike the Apple remote app. It took a little while to download, install, and populate the Plex server on my MBP, but I'm glad I did.

Granted, this does not solve the other big problem of not being able to use the Apple remote app to key in passwords when setting up the ATV4, but at least it helps.

I still hold out hope that we'll get a new/updated remote app from Apple for the ATV4.
 
Can somebody please explain to me what is so great about using an iPad or iPhone as a remote for the Apple Tv? I just don't get it - why do I want to tie up another device to control another unless that is the only way I can stream audio/video I want to hear?

Uh, because typing in passwords and long strings of text is an enormous pain in the a__. With the Remote app it's as quick as typing a text message on your phone. How's that for an answer?
 
Uh, because typing in passwords and long strings of text is an enormous pain in the a__. With the Remote app it's as quick as typing a text message on your phone. How's that for an answer?
EDIT: Oops, didn't see all the responses from others. But one thing to add: I have been happy to have the Remote app on my Apple Watch because it is always on me (whereas remotes tend to wander). It seems odd that such a useful app for use on Apple's flagship wearable product is not supported on the ATV. Goes against Apple's basic emphasis on cutting friction and making things easier.
 
I would love this option. I have Comcast (sucks) and it is tedious when you have to enter in all your info for EVERY single APP...and it is the more the merrier when ATV forgets that the APP was authenticated, and you have to do it all over again.

It's not the ATV that forgets the login. It is your pay tv provider that wants you to authenticate again.
 
Can somebody please explain to me what is so great about using an iPad or iPhone as a remote for the Apple Tv? I just don't get it - why do I want to tie up another device to control another unless that is the only way I can stream audio/video I want to hear?

Because I have Apple TV in my lounge, attached to an HDMI splitter that also sends the picture to another room out of range of the Bluetooth remote. On my five year old ATV2 this worked fine as I could use the standard remote in the lounge and if in the other room I could use the remote app. The lack of remote app compatibility on ATV4 has killed my set up.

So instead of only blindly considering your own use for Apple TV and not needing the remote app, you may want to try and understand that other people use things differently to you. If Apple have had the remote working perfectly well on the earlier models there is no good reason for them not to offer support for those who have a need for it on the ATV4. It's not as though Apple don't have resources to throw a developer at it for a week or so to get it working.
 
Crazy thought, could we do a petition to Apple to allow bluetooth keyboards or make the app work with it?

I already submitted a bug report to support bluetooth keyboards. My bug report was closed yesterday because it is a duplicate of another.
 
If you break the remote, you need a new one. Key facts: the remote is made of glass and a new one costs an eye popping $79. You can find victims of this already in several threads.

Am I understanding your argument? Are you suggesting the following?

1. Apple knows that remotes with glass parts sometimes break.

2. Apple wants you to use the Siri remote on the off-chance that you'll break it and have to spend $79 on a new one.

3. Apple *doesn't* want you to use an iPhone as a remote, because if you break that, you'd have to spend twice as much for a glass repair or ten or more times as much for a more serious repair.

That doesn't make any sense to me. If they were banking on money for broken remotes, they'd want you to use the iOS device as a remote.
 
Please sirs, just give me the trailers app back in Canada. That's all I want... shouldn't be too hard. i don't even need a remote app...

Grab a free US iTunes account and you can download as many free apps as you want (no credit card or gift cards required). I have the Trailers app, HBO Now (Free trial), and the PBS app is outstanding.

To get a free US iTunes account without adding a payment method:

1. Log out of your iTunes Store account on your Mac, or the App Store account on your iOS device.

2. Switch iTunes/AppStore to the region you want (say US).

3. Download a free app and select "Create Account" when it asks for your login.

And Robert's your mother's brother.
 
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