Apple Releases Security Update 2004-09-07

[kevinuaa]

Killed my ftp service.. can't log in anymore.. apple forums say something about where tnt looks for the passwords. apple - please fix!

sorry to sound like a nerd but you really shouldn't use FTP. at the very least, use sftp. SCP is better. If you use FTP, even as a casual user, you're asking for trouble.

 

[27ray]

system restore

The biggest problem I noticed is that my ftp server died! I should have waited because that is a critical app for me now I have to wait until Apple fixes it!!! Is there a way to do a system restore like in XP??

Yes, i installed Panther again on the same HD, the installer will ask you if you want to replace the "more current" system, say yes and and under options choose archive and install, this will preserve your settings. there will still be a few things that you will have to fix (quark 6.1 needed to have some componets reinstalld, etc.) but both my machines are up ad running SANS the secrity update after doing this.

-ray

 

[joeboy_45101]

It is me or does it seem that there are more security updates than ever from Apple??

A couple of years ago security updates were infrequently, but now it seems that they a coming every couple of months - does this indicate slippage in quality control???

You're right Apple shouldn't be releasing any security updates, and should just leave Mac OS X vulnerable.

 

[slughead]

Fried my permissions, couldn't shut down, couldn't reboot.

It's always the same couple of files every damn time, plus a few new ones.

I spose it's got lots to chose from, Mac OS X is pretty damn extravagant.

I remember in the OS 9 days, my system folder had exactly 232 files and I used to be able to name half of them off the top of my head. OS X just doesn't have any personality, it just works all the time.. so depressing, I miss my 6400/200

Here's a pic (note that the below drive does not have any user home directories, just a couple programs and OS X):

 

[TrenchMouth]

I just spent the last 3 hours fixing my roommates Wintel computer that has been restarting as many as 4 times a day for some unknown reason. STOP errors are so much fun. Once I got that fixed it had a driver_corrupted_mmpool error that took an hour by itself to figure out how to fix (being a Mac user it took me a little longer than many seasoned wintel users i am sure) and then downloaded SP2 which proceded to really start messing **** up. First it didnt recognize the keyboard, and once i got into the BIOS we found that his 2500+ Barton had been OCed to 10% higher than it should have been. Thankfully it all works now (also had some problems with the video card driver for some reason).

At the end of the day to get online and get a simple security update and have it work is almost anti climactic. There is no fear of me becoming a Wintel user in the forseable future.

 

[kasei]

Has anyone noticed any problems with waking up your system aftet the last security update?

My 17" PowerBook has been having some problems waking up. I am sure it is from the last security update since it was not doing it before.

 

[ssamani]

Has anyone noticed any problems with waking up your system aftet the last security update?

My 17" PowerBook has been having some problems waking up. I am sure it is from the last security update since it was not doing it before.

Apologies to those for whom I am teaching to suck eggs, but with all the problems, particularly this one, the FTP servers, the iTunes not working, try repairing permissions:

Open /Applications/Utilitities/Disk Utility, select your hard drive and click on "Repair Disk Permissions". Ideally you should do this after every Installer based install (as opposed to drag and drop install) and regularly (once a month or so for me seems to be fine).

I highly recommend Panther Cache Cleaner for this and other maintenance tasks, especially on laptops. Running daily/weekly/monthly maintenace scripts through PCC does wonders for my TiBook performance.

Hope it helps.

Sanjay

 

[CmdrLaForge]

Apologies to those for whom I am teaching to suck eggs, but with all the problems, particularly this one, the FTP servers, the iTunes not working, try repairing permissions:

Open /Applications/Utilitities/Disk Utility, select your hard drive and click on "Repair Disk Permissions". Ideally you should do this after every Installer based install (as opposed to drag and drop install) and regularly (once a month or so for me seems to be fine).
Sanjay

If you are installing through sys pref --> software update it should automatically repair permissions.

 

[ssamani]

If you are installing through sys pref --> software update it should automatically repair permissions.

I thought it updated pre-bindings ("Optimising...") but not repair permissions?

From www.macfixit.com:

Upgrade procedure In order to help avoid problems like the aforementioned from occurring, be sure to follow our recommended procedure for applying significant system updates:

-Make sure your hard drive is in good shape: Boot from the OS X Install CD and run Disk Utility's Repair Disk function (or use a third-party drive utility such as DiskWarrior or TechTool Pro).
-When booted from the volume containing Mac OS X, run Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions function.
-Install the update.
-After rebooting, again run Repair Disk Permissions.

Sanjay

 

[173080]

Has anyone noticed any problems with waking up your system aftet the last security update?

My 17" PowerBook has been having some problems waking up. I am sure it is from the last security update since it was not doing it before.

I have. My 15" SuperDrive PowerBook crashes sometimes when waking from sleep. No Kernel Panic, no anything, it just completely locks up.

 

[shompa]

Yes.. The FTP is broken now. Thanx apple.

after the patch
FTP server (tnftpd 20040810) ready.

on my other mac without the patch
(lukemftpd 1.1) ready.

I need FTP for transfering files between my PC and Mac.

We all know how sucky the SMB is. I get 12meg sek when I FTP. When I use SMB iget 1megabit.. transfer one DVD takes 12 hours instead of 8 minutes.

 

[devman]

Has anyone noticed any problems with waking up your system aftet the last security update?

My 17" PowerBook has been having some problems waking up. I am sure it is from the last security update since it was not doing it before.

not for me. 15" al PB superdrive. no problems at all waking up.

J

 

[kasei]

Apologies to those for whom I am teaching to suck eggs, but with all the problems, particularly this one, the FTP servers, the iTunes not working, try repairing permissions:

Open /Applications/Utilitities/Disk Utility, select your hard drive and click on "Repair Disk Permissions". Ideally you should do this after every Installer based install (as opposed to drag and drop install) and regularly (once a month or so for me seems to be fine).

I highly recommend Panther Cache Cleaner for this and other maintenance tasks, especially on laptops. Running daily/weekly/monthly maintenace scripts through PCC does wonders for my TiBook performance.

Hope it helps.

Sanjay

Eggs or not, I ran repair permissions and also checked my system with TechTools Pro 4. As an added bonus I ran Macaroni which conducts maintenance regularly on my system.

 

[froggy]

Security and the Sound Card

All I know is, and I'm obviously not 100% sure that this was the cause, that after having installed this update, my sound card has gone AWOL, first some clicks then a screech, like feedback, and the dead, after a reboot still nothing, after another reboot, Volume at full volume, but then drifting in and out, I have set the volume to the lowest setting possible, and it still blows my ears off, surely it can't be the soundcard has just died!

17" Power Book and a very unhappy owner right now.

 

[schmooze]

Lock ups from sleep and Kernal Panics.

I have. My 15" SuperDrive PowerBook crashes sometimes when waking from sleep. No Kernel Panic, no anything, it just completely locks up.

I'm having the same problem since the security update, but additionally I'm having Kernal panics. Unfortunately for me, I did the security update and upgraded my RAM (transcend 512mb) at the same time, so I'm trying to figure out if its the ram or the update.

The locking up is weird. I'll close the lid and it'll go to sleep, but then the display doesn't come back up and the sleep light doesn't come on. Usually I'll have to reboot about 4 or 5 times before it comes back to life.

Quite a bummer. Maybe there will be an update in the next few days.

 

[aftk2]

Yes, BUT...

3. There are a lot of whiners going "waaaa, I want my type-and-creator metadata",

THEREFORE

Apple chose to use HFS+ as the filesystem instead of UFS (or JFS/XFS/ext3/reiserfs) to accomodate 1 - 3 above.

bwahaha...whiners. Yeah, because metadata is much less elegant than...uh, you know, file extensions, which sometimes appear at the end of filenames, which sometimes don't, and the mere presence of which can fool certain users into believing files will open with a particular application.

You're just grumpy that 10.4 is going to offer more support for HFS+ features, not less.

 

[slughead]

bwahaha...whiners. Yeah, because metadata is much less elegant than...uh, you know, file extensions, which sometimes appear at the end of filenames, which sometimes don't, and the mere presence of which can fool certain users into believing files will open with a particular application.

You're just grumpy that 10.4 is going to offer more support for HFS+ features, not less.

I used UFS on OS X for a while, until I found out everything is case sensitive.. I don't know that crap!

 

[Doctor Q]

I wonder if some of the symptoms people report after an update (especially the ones reported by only a single person) are simply the result of previous problems that came to light because the Mac was restarted.

 

[Elektronkind]

I'm not talking about the patch making things work faster. I'm talking about it being slower on the same machine after the patch. I don't expect my G4 to run like my G5 (that's why I bought a G5). I was just wondering if it was more code to go through and slowed it down. I am also glad that Apple is staying on top of things.

Of course your machine is going to seem slower right after you boot up - there's hardly anything populating the various caches that were populated before you rebooted. Filesystem cache. Linker cache. Finder's memory caching.

Makes sense now?

/dale

 

[Nsx123]

Looks like this security update broke Safari. A number of websites that used to open up fine before the update now do not work right. Compusa, Fedex, etc... are having problems. I hope Apple can put out a fix for this soon.

 

[Elektronkind]

Looks like this security update broke Safari. A number of websites that used to open up fine before the update now do not work right. Compusa, Fedex, etc... are having problems. I hope Apple can put out a fix for this soon.

It's not Apple's fault. Rather, its poor planning on the part of a often-used web page authoring tool. Read this for an explanation:

http://xlr8yourmac.com/archives/sep04/090804.html#S18029

/dale

 

[dizastor]

...browsing with IE is like having sex without a condom.

Damn. This makes me almost want to try IE again. What version has this "feature"? I'm guessing that you must have some sort of special input device.


I think Microsoft should use this in a marketing campaign.

 

[ioinc]

It's not Apple's fault. Rather, its poor planning on the part of a often-used web page authoring tool. Read this for an explanation:

/dale

You can blame whoever you like...

I look to apple (and pay apple for) a browser that works.

If they have to make adjustments so be it...

Apple owns this one

 

[davecuse]

You can blame whoever you like...

I look to apple (and pay apple for) a browser that works.

If they have to make adjustments so be it...

Apple owns this one

Poor coding of a website is not Apple's fault, if these sites followed guideline's there would not be a problem.

Reminds me of FrontPage...

 

[bousozoku]

Looks like this security update broke Safari. A number of websites that used to open up fine before the update now do not work right. Compusa, Fedex, etc... are having problems. I hope Apple can put out a fix for this soon.

Considering that the W3C validator claims 14 errors for Fedex and can't validate CompUSA because of junk characters, perhaps they should be fixing their websites rather than Apple or anyone else generating workarounds.