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Apple Releases Software Installer Update 1.0 for Mac OS X 10.6.8
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I tried this, doesn't work out very well.
Lion uses a different file system for the Time Machine as it seems. I reinstalled SL and the backup disk appeared to be empty. (non formatted space)
I ended up creating a second partition on my hard drive. Installing SL and dragging dropping from one partition to another.
I have never had any problems with Mission Control to switch between programs and App-Exposé to switch between windows, but your frustration seems to make sense...
It would be better if they offered both options, or make it somewhat customizable. I used Exposé in Leopard and SL, but never used Spaces.
I guess every user is different...
No need to be a prick about it. Sometimes it is not about being willing or not. My old iMac, for example, which is still a pretty good machine for browsing, email and holding my iTunes collections (mostly for Apple TV).
Since I have a recent MBP on Lion (and soon ML), I see no point in updating.
That being said, I do accept the fact that it stays behind.
Fortunately, this update is not required by me, since I never allow auto-updates. If I can't download a DMG and install manually - when it suits me to so do, I'm not interested.
I don't believe so. At least there wasn't when I downgraded from Lion to SL about 6 months ago. My 8-years-in-the-making mail archive is still locked away in a finder folder on my desktop as opposed to being integrated back into SL's Mail.app - Lion's Mail is version 5.x while SL's Mail is version 4.5 and apparently there is no way (that worked for me) of importing the 5.x archive into 4.5.
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Lion sucks. I have a lot of time and money invested in plugins for Logic, and by most accounts Lion doesn't play nice with Logic. Also b/c of the loss of Spaces, and the impetuous need to turn the OS into some iOS stepchild, I hate it. My iPad & iPhone have iOS. My MBA unfortunately came with Lion. I have NO desire to turn my Mac Pro into some screwed up iOS amalgamation.
Just give me iCloud for SL in a 10.6.9 update, Apple. ........like you were SUPPOSED to !!!
Lion sucks. I have a lot of time and money invested in plugins for Logic, and by most accounts Lion doesn't play nice with Logic. Also b/c of the loss of Spaces, and the impetuous need to turn the OS into some iOS stepchild, I hate it. My iPad & iPhone have iOS. My MBA unfortunately came with Lion. I have NO desire to turn my Mac Pro into some screwed up iOS amalgamation.
Just give me iCloud for SL in a 10.6.9 update, Apple. ........like you were SUPPOSED to !!!
what are the chances that this fixes my problem. Every time I run software update it crashes and gives me a huge error report. Fingers crossed.
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looks like that is a no.
anyone help with this????
"Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/DistributionKit.framework/Versions/A/DistributionKit
Referenced from: /Users/johnmhine/items from desktop/untitled folder/Backups.backupdb/John Hines MacBook/2011-11-24-000518/Macintosh HD/System/Library/CoreServices/Software Update.app/Contents/MacOS/Software Update
Reason: image not found"
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looks like that is a no.
anyone help with this????
"Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/DistributionKit.framework/Versions/A/DistributionKit
Referenced from: /Users/johnmhine/items from desktop/untitled folder/Backups.backupdb/John Hines MacBook/2011-11-24-000518/Macintosh HD/System/Library/CoreServices/Software Update.app/Contents/MacOS/Software Update
Reason: image not found"
I never said anything about older versions of the operating system not being useful. If you are happy with an older version, great.
The fact is that Apple stops actively developing for an operating system when a newer version is released. This has been the case through OS X's entire life.
I certainly have devices that have left behind. It's not like I'm exempt from Apple's policies either. My old MacBook will not support the upcoming Mountain Lion, so I'm definitely in Apple's rear view mirror for that computer.
It's just Apple's way of running its business and if one has been through one or two OS X release cycles, one should know this.
Well, that original quote of yours sure sounded "pricky". If it was not the intention, then I apologize.
As for myself, I have no issues with that. As a SW developer myself, I do understand the logic.
I tried this, doesn't work out very well.
Lion uses a different file system for the Time Machine as it seems. I reinstalled SL and the backup disk appeared to be empty. (non formatted space)
I ended up creating a second partition on my hard drive. Installing SL and dragging dropping from one partition to another.
I have never had any problems with Mission Control to switch between programs and App-Exposé to switch between windows, but your frustration seems to make sense...
It would be better if they offered both options, or make it somewhat customizable. I used Exposé in Leopard and SL, but never used Spaces.
I guess every user is different...
It comes down to how different people manage content. Visual people like me can scan through tons of windows very quickly, and 10.5 Expose/Spaces was easy and intuitive to use. For non-visual people Mission Control is better because it organizes things by App, and greatly narrows the search for you. However, the Windows overlap, causing you to play hide-n-seek or spacebar peak-a-boo with your content just to move windows around.
Sure, you can invoke App Expose, but that was always there. And, if you are in Mission Control you now have to wait through 66% more animations, which are also more visually jarring than the ones in 10.5.
For me, Mission Control is just as frustrating as Windows XP but at least some people like it so it isn't a total loss, just a lateral shift.
Generally, I would agree with this... but I wonder if this time may be an exception? I ask because.... MobileMe is/was a feature of SL. That feature is being removed soon. Does Apple feel that they need to replace the MM feature with iCloud? Or are they going to release ML at the same time as the MM expiry date (thereby putting SL into a deprecated state?). Hmmmm.... maybe we've just nailed the ML release date? IIRC MM expires July 1st (??)
I'm happy with SL, and will stick with it until Lion gets a bit more polished... just in time for the ML release
...There are a few features I would really like in Lion... but I get the feeling that Apple is still rounding some of the rough corners off. I use my system for a living, so I need it to be reliable above all else.
It was - and it also was discontinued. That's just the way things are. Apple generally does not and really has not bent over backwards to support old operating systems outside of critical support. iCloud just doesn't cut it. The programming time (probably because they have to back-port all that code) is not what they consider a good use of their time given that Lion has been out and is about to be succeed by ML.
Snow Leopard is not exactly antiquated. Lion is less than a year old with only a .3 release on it and ML isn't even out yet.
Also, it isn't like supporting Calendar and Address Book syncing is that big of an update, people have already hacked Calendar to sync with iCloud and they already have the infrastructure to support MobileMe Calendar and Address Book syncing in place.
I am not saying its not possible. I am saying that Apple probably doesn't see it worth the effort. Once a new OS, the last one is in maintenance mode. That means that there has be to a big reason to do a upgrade with new features. With ML coming out soon that's where their efforts are focused. Not on the old.
That's just the way it works. Apple has never (in my memory) added features to old operating systems. It's always been limited to bug fixes. Apple sees MM as a service that they discontinues and was replaced by something new.
Not disagreeing with you.... just exploring what the possibilities are.
I know that Apple has little sentimental attachments to older OSes or even HW. But when they do support something, I don't get the feeling that they give it 2nd class support. It's all or nothing. And admittedly, the "nothing" stage can come after only a short time. I'm guessing that they'll keep the pattern and stop supporting SL the moment ML comes out. But, IIRC, Tiger got a big update just before SL was released.
So... my thinking was that since SL had the MM feature, and that feature is being removed.... perhaps Apple would add at least some of the iCloud functionality to SL. Not all, because that would be a big rewrite... just some so that the basics (more or less equivalent to the MM features) were useable. And certainly not enough iCloud features that it becomes better than MM. Just more or less the same.... and then it become unsupported (useable but unsupported) when ML is released.
I've only been using OS X since Tiger... though that was early in the cycle. Since then when there is a new OS I've noticed that the final release is considered fantastic due to it's reliability, polishedness, and maturity. And the new release is considered a must-have due to the list of new features and abilities.... and that no-one has ever claimed the new release was mature, polished, or rock-solid.
It's just finding that balance of reliability and new features this time 'round. I'm perfectly happy with the SW I use professionally (and printer)... but they are kind of old. I'm pretty sure I can get to Lion now without too much disruption... but I'm not looking forward to ML. It might be a very expensive upgrade for me and my circumstances. sigh.
Out of curiosity, can you sync calendar and address books between Lion and Snow Leopard using something like SugarSync? I know you can sync the Application Support folders, but are the calendars compatible between Snow Leopard and Lion?
Forced Grouping of Window Applications:
- Needlessly grouped. If many windows are stacked, it is difficult to multitask or find a specific document.
- Fanning out the grouped windows only works with a trackpad and only reveals a few extra pixels of the windows behind the top-most window.
- Specifically showing only single application windows requires an extra click but does not make dragging and dropping objects from other documents or applications possible.
The Dashboard and Spaces Thumbnails:
- No reason to show any thumbnails if only one desktop is present and dashboard is not used as it takes up space.
- Needs an option to disable extra desktops as many people dont use ‘spaces’
The Grey Border:
- No reason to squeeze the desktop background into a smaller image while adding a grey tiled pattern. This constrains all thumbnails of open windows into a smaller area thereby making the thumbnails smaller.
- The grey border is redundant and only adds more need for processing power to animate the entire process of Mission Control activation. Wallpaper should be fullscreen, just as it was in Snow Leopard’s Expose with a vignette.
Click on the image to see which area I'm pointing out;
It would be very dependent on what we are talking about. In some cases, they can do it (like with iTunes - they can back convert it because it doesn't have deep dependencies and there is a business reason to support it). iCloud is probably a different level of support entirely. Apple would have to go out of it's way to support what they perceive as "in the rear view mirror". You are looking for possibilities. You should be looking at whats practical. Obviously it is possible.We need to look at what is practical from Apple's POV and what they have done before and weigh that. Tons of things are possible. As you are probably realizing, if Apple hasn't done it yet, they are almost certainly not going to do it. And the reason they probably see it, they can't do it with full support, it isn't worth it. They are probably looking at the checklist of things they would have to do and the time required and said "we're already on Lion and we are already going to be working on ML, sorry but no."
iCloud with SL, please. I've been using .mac and MobileMe for 4 years now. I'd hate to lose it, but I'd hate even more to not have SL.
Not everyone is in your situation. Some people have older hardware that they cannot upgrade to Lion, meaning they have to go out and spend the bucks on a new computer when the one they have now works perfectly fine. Just so they can use iCloud? That shouldn't be needed.
Other people use additional hardware or software that requires an older version of OS. Locking them out of iCloud as well.
So just because you have no issues, doesn't mean that other people are not in very different situations.
The difference here though, is the iOS upgrade on my iPad broke the EXISTING FUNCTIONALITY of syncing that I once had with my Mac. Telling me I have to upgrade my computer's OS just to get that functionality back that I once had is a little different situation then the one you describe.
Can we leave the 10.6 vs 10.7 debate elsewhere pls?
I get the same thing with a clean install of 10.6, followed by 10.6.8 v1 combo, followed by a *Manual* download of the Installer Update 1.0.
Perhaps the servers are under tremendous load?
I get the same thing with a clean install of 10.6, followed by 10.6.8 v1 combo, followed by a *Manual* download of the Installer Update 1.0.
Perhaps the servers are under tremendous load?
Agreed. Been using MobileMe since it was called iTools, and I'm not looking forward to choosing between an IMAP hack and upgrading to Lion (UI changed too much, and not to my liking; and app compatibility filtering? No thank you.), especially while I'm studying and don't have time to troubleshoot an upgrade, nor to find new work routines/new compatible apps.
That Vista can run iCloud but Leopard can't (Vista came out before Leopard) is ridiculous. So much for looking after your own community over your competitor's, Apple
this started late last week for me. I created a test user to see if I could run the program and it worked. It actually ran the program twice which really confused me. Also, I can run the program from the systems preferences window which makes no sense to me. It is almost like the link got broken and it is not finding the actual app from the menu bar shortcut.