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Apple Releases the MacBook Pro
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Diatribe said:
mrichmon said:
Yes, good point - does anyone know what the specs are for the batteries in these things? If it is an improvement over the G4 PowerBooks, you think Apple would have said something, which means it's either the same or worse.
I am not happy at all. I would consider myself an oldschool mac fanatic and a follower of this universal mac cult, as most of you would consider yourself. That stated:
1)What's the deal with putting intel chips in our beloved macs?
2)Why would anyone downgrade and put windows on them when OSX is obviously the superior operating system. ( you're not really "switching")
3)Will all the programs that I own and invested tons of cash into like Final, Maya, DVD Studio even work correctly? They better.
4)What's up with the name MacBook, it's like steve is trying his hardest to reasure us that we are still buying Macs rather than just another rugular mobile PC found anywhere else. Focus on your loyal following as well!
It's been a long time since I last posted on this site. I've been relatively happy untill now. I hope nobody takes offense to this, It's kinda like apple is losing what has generally set them appart. IMO and just my 2 cents.
1)What's the deal with putting intel chips in our beloved macs?
2)Why would anyone downgrade and put windows on them when OSX is obviously the superior operating system. ( you're not really "switching")
3)Will all the programs that I own and invested tons of cash into like Final, Maya, DVD Studio even work correctly? They better.
4)What's up with the name MacBook, it's like steve is trying his hardest to reasure us that we are still buying Macs rather than just another rugular mobile PC found anywhere else. Focus on your loyal following as well!
It's been a long time since I last posted on this site. I've been relatively happy untill now. I hope nobody takes offense to this, It's kinda like apple is losing what has generally set them appart. IMO and just my 2 cents.
robotx21 said:
Actually, by your logic, if "Power" is being replaced with "Mac", then the "PowerMac" should be called the "MacMac".
What's wrong with everyone here?
The name change signifies the transition from a Power(PC)book to an x86 book. Would you rather they called it xBook or something.
The design is perfect, its slim, minimal, and attractive. There is very little anyone can do with a notebook case, I believe this is as minimal it will get. It will get thinner for sure and maybe wider, but thats about it.
The materials used kinda confused me, it looks darker than the Al books. Are they using another material or is it just my screen playing tricks on my eyes.
FW800, can anyone honestly tell me the percentage of Apple portable users actually use this in a fixed or mobile states on a day to day basis.
Applications running with Rosette is going to have the same performance if not marginally better than running Virtual PC. The demo of PS and Office looked slow and Steve did not look too pleased about its performance, however he had to reassure the Apple consumer base.
For what you are getting, compared to the last model is great. The last PowerBook G4 model just seems to have glitches in workmanship that it seems most of the efforts at Apple were aimed at the MacBook.
The screen is wider and has the same resolution as the 17" screen, which is good, plus it is brighter.
Battery power should be round the 4-6 hour range as you are running a dual core processor, and you can see how much work per watt the processor actually does.
Over all I say this was a great Keynote with great hardware, it bring the Mac notebooks finally to the dual core arena, finally.
The name change signifies the transition from a Power(PC)book to an x86 book. Would you rather they called it xBook or something.
The design is perfect, its slim, minimal, and attractive. There is very little anyone can do with a notebook case, I believe this is as minimal it will get. It will get thinner for sure and maybe wider, but thats about it.
The materials used kinda confused me, it looks darker than the Al books. Are they using another material or is it just my screen playing tricks on my eyes.
FW800, can anyone honestly tell me the percentage of Apple portable users actually use this in a fixed or mobile states on a day to day basis.
Applications running with Rosette is going to have the same performance if not marginally better than running Virtual PC. The demo of PS and Office looked slow and Steve did not look too pleased about its performance, however he had to reassure the Apple consumer base.
For what you are getting, compared to the last model is great. The last PowerBook G4 model just seems to have glitches in workmanship that it seems most of the efforts at Apple were aimed at the MacBook.
The screen is wider and has the same resolution as the 17" screen, which is good, plus it is brighter.
Battery power should be round the 4-6 hour range as you are running a dual core processor, and you can see how much work per watt the processor actually does.
Over all I say this was a great Keynote with great hardware, it bring the Mac notebooks finally to the dual core arena, finally.
~Shard~ said:Actually, by your logic, if "Power" is being replaced with "Mac", then the "PowerMac" should be called the "MacMac".
Maybe the PowerMac will just be called, "Mac."
You have the Mac Mini as its cheaper option.
AUBPsych said:Wow....after reading through the majority of these comments, I'm thinking the MacBook Pro isn't really the best laptop Apple can offer - yet. Why can't the MBP have a 2 GHz processor like some of its PC laptop competitors? I am assuming that, like everyone else, this is just a transition machine. I really really wanted a Powerbook (as I refuse to call it a MacBook as well) - but now that the specs and such are out, in some ways it seems like a step-backwards for Apple. Hopefully this "flagship" system will upgraded and up to par with it competitors before May or June of this year comes around. That's when I'll need a laptop most, and I have saved up for over a year to buy a Powerbook. I would hate for my machine to be anywhere close to a disappointment.
The 2GHz processor costs double of the 1.66 GHz processor, so not really a suprise. I dont think there are too many PC competitors offering a 2GHz duo core processor either.
The name powerbook was changed because it no longer used the PowerPC processor... I agree its a not the most snappy name, but it really had to change with the change of processor.
Engadget hands on with the new MBP
http://engadget.com/2006/01/10/hands-on-with-the-macbook-pro/
http://engadget.com/2006/01/10/hands-on-with-the-macbook-pro/
Here's to the Crazy Ones ![]()
battery life?
Wonder which 1.66 mhz chip is in the MacBook...
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/specs.htm
Battery life could be very different between the two systems if they are using the L2400 1.66 mhz chip.
Wonder which 1.66 mhz chip is in the MacBook...
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/specs.htm
Battery life could be very different between the two systems if they are using the L2400 1.66 mhz chip.
I'm going a new way with this. macbook describes it as a laptop, macdesk describes it as a desktop while keeping mac in the name~Shard~ said:Actually, by your logic, if "Power" is being replaced with "Mac", then the "PowerMac" should be called the "MacMac".
Different logic
boombashi said:
I still use my modem on rare occasions...no matter where you are, if you can find a crackly old phone line, you can get online and check your mail. It's a nice feature to have, and I hate to carry extra things around. I can see them getting rid of it on the iMac (which they did last revision), but I was certain they'd leave it on the laptops for a bit longer. Really, how much room does a modem take up? And the wholesale cost for them is less than $3.
sw1tcher said:
Should have listened to those of us who'd reply to people who'd say stuff like this: "I can't wait for new cheap Intel Macs!" with this: "Sorry, but Intel Macs aren't going to be much if at all less expensive." And then explained why. No, I didn't have any inside info (like that would ever happen
), but I did have logic. Thinking: it works!Now will people please listen when I explain AGAIN why Rosetta isn't so hot? Notice how much stuff doesn't even work with it at all, never mind just slowly. Better make sure any apps you really care about are universal binaries, or this will be far from the "fastest Mac ever" if you have to emulate PPC all the time.
--Eric
Usb Modems?!?!
I agree. So does anyone understand Apple's wisdom in removing the modem from a LAPTOP? A USB modem??? One more thing to carry.
Personally, I agree with ShavenYak in assuming this is a generic model to test the waters. I expect some slick new, and much smaller, laptops from Apple in the future--the reason why they hired the Sony Engineers--but I doubt those would have the same graphics power.
Sorry if this has already been said, but I'm playing catch-up in thread reading.
Lacero said:
I agree. So does anyone understand Apple's wisdom in removing the modem from a LAPTOP? A USB modem??? One more thing to carry.
Personally, I agree with ShavenYak in assuming this is a generic model to test the waters. I expect some slick new, and much smaller, laptops from Apple in the future--the reason why they hired the Sony Engineers--but I doubt those would have the same graphics power.
Sorry if this has already been said, but I'm playing catch-up in thread reading.
AUBPsych said:Wow....after reading through the majority of these comments, I'm thinking the MacBook Pro isn't really the best laptop Apple can offer - yet. Why can't the MBP have a 2 GHz processor like some of its PC laptop competitors? I am assuming that, like everyone else, this is just a transition machine. I really really wanted a Powerbook (as I refuse to call it a MacBook as well) - but now that the specs and such are out, in some ways it seems like a step-backwards for Apple. Hopefully this "flagship" system will upgraded and up to par with it competitors before May or June of this year comes around. That's when I'll need a laptop most, and I have saved up for over a year to buy a Powerbook. I would hate for my machine to be anywhere close to a disappointment.
I'm guessing they are reserving the 2.13 for the 17". BTW, I think this "locking in" of processors is awful. Same thing with gpus. Apple is particularly bad at this (see: iBooks), though all pc makers do this a bit. I'm hoping with the switch to intel, this will change, since most pc manufacturers offer a selection of cpu's and gpu's for a given form factor.
mrichmon said:
Nice catch. Makes you wonder...
~Shard~ said:
If it had been the same Apple would've at least written it down somewhere. Not mentioning it AT ALL makes you really wonder how bad it might be...
Even if it isn't, you'll still lose the PCMCIA slot, the DL burner and the 8x DVD burner. Comparing that to the new Acer I think it was at the same price with A LOT better specs kinda turns me off. I'll wait another year I guess.
Funny thing is though I was ready to buy a new one but this is definitely not it...
This is great but it's weird that Apple is still selling the entire line of PowerBook G4's alongside the new MacBook Pro.
For the same price, why would anyone buy a 15" PowerBook G4 for the same price as the MacBook Pro?
For the same price, why would anyone buy a 15" PowerBook G4 for the same price as the MacBook Pro?
I do think this is a loss, and there's nothing wrong with pointing that out:BlueRevolution said:
People take laptops a LOT of places that don't have broadband. And they send and receive faxes. So a modem is often necessary. Carry it with you? The point of portability is harmed when you have to carry more bits and pieces around.
Still a great machine, just commiserating with those who don't want to add one more piece to their "sack of annoying clutter." (Frankly, I think power supplies should be internal on some models: I'd tolerate thicker laptops with a retractable cord and no brick!)
Good news, but I'm not a huge fan of the name. It lacks a certain je ne sais quoi that PowerBook has.
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