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Wes Jordan said:
Well, by then you'll be saying I'll just wait until next year when they have iLife '08 and Mac OSX Elephant(yeah..right) and they have the new 5 GHz quad-core processor. Technology will always be changing and in the visible future. At some point you have to decide that now is the time you will buy even though something better is on the horizon.

I just ordered my very first mac, an Intel Powerbook(not going to call it a MacBook Pro) with the Sims 2 along with the University expansion. I'll have t get more software when I get it and I'm still waiting for a wireless MM! I can't wait. Any ideas of what part of February it will ship?


Yeah, but at least I'd hope that hardware doesn't make steps backward like this one did.
 
sw1tcher said:
Sad that we still have to pay Apple's premium. I thought (like almost everyone) that the switch over to Intel would bring slightly lower prices.

Now Apple cannot hide anymore. It'll be interesting what they do once their entire product line is Intel...
 
am I the only one who's surprised they still offer the old g4/g5 powerbook/iMac at the same price as the new intel machines?

Seems to me this is just a good way to confuse the consumer
 
stevep said:
And so did mine. And then I saw the price and it went back in again. Once again the $ to £ conversion is just rubbish for UK buyers.


It not really a conversion, they just swap over the currency symbol :(
 
~Shard~ said:
Lacero said:
I hope so. Would keep me from having to upgrade my old Pentium 150Mhz. I could see this beneficial for my web design work, so I can test browser compatibility with my web sites. Dual boot or windowed mode would just be awesome!QUOTE]

Yes, dual boot would indeed be nice - I use my PC for such limited things nowadays it would really be nice to just get rid of it and have one machine. I'd primarily run OS X on it of course, but for those few times I need a PC dual boot would come in soooo handy. :cool:


If dual boot were a built in option - you get XP etc for additonal cost I think it would seriously boost sales to switchers.
 
Dissapointed

I was dissapointed that apple didn't release a new ibook aka macbook at the macworld expo today. I would have thought the ibook G4 had passed it's use by date and was ready for an upgrade. Anyone know of a new ibook being released sometime soon?
 
I don't think the name MacBook will be permanent. The line will probably revert back to "Powerbook" as soon as they stop selling G4 Powerbooks on the main page (which could take almost a year, but probably not that long). Notice that they didn't come up with a new name for the iMac - after all, they've got a new full line of iMacs but only have the 15" for powerbooks.
 
Hi all,

I wondered where the compartment was for the battery? On this pic it looks like the hole lid is one piece.

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My first post!
 
i'm worried about battery life. seriously.

and i need a new powerbook soon. AND YES, i will keep calling them powerbooks, because i HATE the new name.


that is all.
 
if it were "black" i'd buy it in a heartbeat. but there aree way too many questions to go be a guinea pig for Apple Labs.

I am no guinea pig.
 
Is there any firewire on the new Mac Book?? I link my iPod to my Powerbook via firewire. Where do I go from here???

Was anything mentioned about the Apple TV's????

Frank
 
Will someone try to get to the apple store on the website? That part of apple.com seems to not be working. Is it just me or could something be goin on?
 
Stella said:
FW is far from dead, many devices still use FW such as MiniDV, plus its faster than USB 2.

FW is great for daisy chaining hard discs, as you've heard before.

USB is better for some devices, such as input devices, and FW is good for other devices.

Did you not see the article last week saying FW market should explode this year?


Stella, I was talking about the whiners mourning about the loss of FW 800. FW 400 is still there, right? I do have camcorders and peripherals that connect via FW, and FW is great for all that.. BUT .. FW is not good for Pro Users (we're talking 15k rpm SCSI drive usage here.. not cute little 7200 rpm firewire drives).. so the Express /34 addition is a solid move on Apple's part.

So while you want to store your pictures on your FW daisy chained hard drives, thats awesome.. I do the same. However, when it comes to producing music arrangements (think orchestral scores for an action scene where there's a hundred tracks going on.. each track is a .wav file with plug-ins) you need a bloody fast hard drive to cut it! And FW just doesn't.
 
bigandy said:
i'm worried about battery life. seriously.

and i need a new powerbook soon. AND YES, i will keep calling them powerbooks, because i HATE the new name.


that is all.


The Core Duo offers better battery life than the older Pentium-m. That laptop probably has pretty good battery life.
 
In theory I would be able to do hdv editing on this new macbook with great speed meaning I would not need to take my powermac around.....problem I can just about run the hdv video of firewire800 drives firewire 400 I may aswell not bother.How many rushes do they think I can store on the internal 100gb with all the apps.
Rant Over
 
Apple played it safe.

Nothing revolutionary here, like the original mac or even lisa. To give this book a new name is pushing it, given that it uses the same case as a powerbook!

I was expecting to see something small and brilliant (maybe cheaper). I can't recommend these macbooks to cutting edge folks!

I did get macbook.name to add to my collection! :rolleyes:
 
Music_Producer said:
And then they do all these comparisons with the Acer.. geez.. for a $500 difference, yes I'll go with the macbook. I prefer the OS (my windows laptop was running flawlessly for 6 months.. and 3 days ago it just crashed.. some kind of system error.. and i don't even use it to go online..so there's no spyware or anything!)

My PC at work has run flawlessly for years. Look at all the refurb deals you can get on Macs, and strange software hangups (beachballs on Safari, very slow to quit Mail sometimes).

Mac hardware/OS/software is not a magic bullet - you can get problems on any platform, and if you want to make any kind of meaningful comparison, you need a much larger sampling.

Music_Producer said:
A beautiful laptop, a powerful OS, additional little features like the magnetic power adapter bit, the isight built in, backlit keyboard, Express /34 (a BIG plus for pros) .. you're telling me you would want the Acer over the macbook? For 500 bucks? When you do buy the Acer, don't forget to spend money routinely on updates.. on anti-virus software, backups, etc. etc.

Backlit keyboard - yuk, unless you work in the dark (much prefer a well lit environment). iSight? don't use it (and the Acer has built-in cam).

Anti-virus - my ISP offers free software. In the last 3 years, I've spent a *lot* more on MacOS X updates (and .Mac accounts) than I would have done on updates and system utilities on a PC.

Music_Producer said:
The dual layer drive support is not there because, dual layer is not THAT popular. Dual layer dvds are expensive and slow.. I'd rather buy a hard drive for backup than have a stack of dual layer DVDs.. the next MB will have a Blue Ray DVD drive (if its standard by then) Yes, they could have included a dual layer drive to appease the whiners, but I don't find it necessary.

True, dual-layer DVDs are too expensive to use routinely - but occassionally may be useful, and a $2000+ laptop is a 3-5 year investment, and DL media prices should (hopefully) go down significantly during that time.

Music_Producer said:
I figure there will always be people who will never be satisfied and will keep praying and waiting for Rev. A,B,C,D and so on.. What do you want? a Quad core 15.5 ghz laptop? Honestly, what do you whiners need that power for?

No, I just want something that is competitive with what is out there. The Acer is significantly better value (in pure hardware terms). Rosetta not running Pro apps seems to be an arbitrary restriction - partly to encourage the use of better performing apps, and partly to force money for upgrades. When you take that along with all the software that I have that would work on either Mac or Windows, it would be cheaper and easier for me to switch back than stay with Mac.
 
wilburpan said:
I know this is early, but I was interested in how the new MacBook would stack up against a Windows notebook in terms of value for your money. The closest available notebook I could find is the recently announced Acer TravelMate 8200. Keep in mind that the pricing is preliminary.

So here we go:

Acer TravelMate 8200
Price: Starting at $1999
CPU: Intel Core Duo 2.0GHz processor (Intel Yonah processor)
Memory: 1 GB (expandable up to 2GB RAM) 533/677
Screen: 15.4" WXGA (1680x1050 pixel resolution)
HD: Seagate 120GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive
Video card: ATI Radeon X1600 256MB (256 dedicated while 256MB can be borrowed from main memory)
Optical drive: DVD-Super Multi Double Layer
Camera: Built-in 1.3 Mega pixel camera, with 225-degree swivel ability
Wireless: Intel Pro wireless 3945 a/b/g
Other: Built-in VOIP capability
Ports: 5-in-1 card reader, a connector to Acer ezDock, Acer's PCI-Express based port replicator, an ExpressCard slot, a PC Card slot, 4 USB 2.0 ports, DVI-D port, SmartCard slot, IEEE 1394 port; External Display (VGA) port, Fast Infrared port; S-video/TV-out port, Headphones/speaker/line-out port with S/PDIF support, Microphone/line-in jack, Ethernet (RJ-45) port; Modem (RJ-11) port
Weight: 6.6lbs
Bling: Carbon Fiber finish lid

So stacking this up against the $1999 MacBook, the Acer comes out ahead in terms of processor speed (2.0 vs. 1.67 GHz), RAM (1 GB vs. 512 MB), hard drive space (120 vs. 80 GB), video card memory (256 vs. 128 MB), wireless capability (802.11a availability). The Acer has 2 more USB 2.0 ports, a 5-in-1 card reader, a few more TV-out options, and a few more notebook card options. A modem is a $50 add on item for the MacBook. The Acer has a higher resolution screen, but it loses on weight (6.6 vs. 5.6 lbs.).

If we take the higher end MacBook, and try to even the specs, you can get equivalent RAM, video card RAM, and HD space, and be a little closer to equivalent processor speed through Apple for $2599. Or you could get the $1999 MacBook, go to your favorite computer parts store and pick up an extra 512MB RAM stick and a 120 GB notebook drive for about $350, in which case you are still a little short in the CPU and video RAM areas.

So which gives you more value for your money? I would still vote for the 15" MacBook. Why? Because the MacBook runs OS X instead of crappy Windows, and is lighter, which is important for those of us who actually travel with a notebook.

As far as battery life goes, Anandtech recently benchmarked an ASUS Core Duo notebook, and found that battery life was pretty good. I won't repeat all of their findings, but office/productivity tests gave a battery life of about 230 minutes, while DVD playing gave a battery life of 192 minutes. Now this notebook has a 12.1" screen, so there's a good chance that the 15" MacBook will probably not be as good in the battery life area. On the other hand, the Acer TravelMate 8200 claims a battery life of 3.5 hours, so I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

It will be interesting to see what happens on the desktop side. No Core Duo desktop other than the new iMac has been announced so far. The closest would be the few Pentium M based desktops, but they seem to carry a price premium compared to other Intel based desktops. And Pentium D desktops have not been out for that long.

Based on the (admittedly very few) current Core Duo notebook offerings out there so far, I think the best product that will come out of the migration to Intel will be the MacBook that replaces the current 12" PowerBook. The ASUS COre Duo mentioned above has a 12" screen, but the current crop of Sony notebooks include a model with a 13.3" widescreen display, which is the screen I would like to see.

Another HUGE difference... the ACER is huge in comparison. They are the same thickness (1'') but the ACER is 14.3 X 10.7(!) vs 14.1 X 9.6 for the Mac... that's 153in² vs 135.4in² - that makes a big difference when lugging these things around.
 
capvideo said:
Well, there is the rumored flash drive-equipped hard drive. Adding, say, one gigabyte of flash memory to buffer between the drive and the Mac ought to drastically increase battery life for some applications (such as browsing the web) by keeping the hard drive from having to spin up until more than one gigabyte of data have been written.

Jerry

I have two reservations about this, although the concept is great on paper.

First, flash memory, even though the write limit is quite high, does have one. A heavy user could potentially burn through that much, much, faster when using it as a power-saving cache than in most applications... say the iPod Nano. I hope to god there would be a way to disable it when plugged in and the like to prevent it from wearing out too quickly under heavy transfers. I would also hope that the cache wouldn't /prevent/ writes from happening when it does fail, or I might as well have just used a bank of flash chips in the first place. While most consumers who cycle through machines at a fair clip wouldn't even notice, I tend to keep storage devices around for awhile and reuse them, and resell old hardware, and the like.

Second is cost, which in retrospect I should have mentioned. Adding flash memory would directly, and noticably add to the cost of the drive. After margins are considered, it could be as much as 50$ added cost to the consumer. This is a guesstimate, so don't hammer me needlessly if I am wrong (and don't quote me on it either).

So you gain in battery life, but long-term reliability and cost both suffer as a result of it.

So, in actuality, the phrase should be: Speed, Weight, Battery, Cost, Pick any 2 you want, and get sub-par performance from the other two. ;)
 
dornoforpyros said:
am I the only one who's surprised they still offer the old g4/g5 powerbook/iMac at the same price as the new intel machines?

Seems to me this is just a good way to confuse the consumer

My thoughts too.

Even the "old" PowerBook 15" is still there for the same price.

I wonder how quickly the 3rd party apps are either Universal Binary, or Intel bins.
Microsoft's Office and Adobe's CS (along with Quark.... they are fast this time!!!) have been talked about many times. But what about the games, or media players (I know VLC has an Intel OS X build) etc?
Thes apps are for many a consumer just as importatnt as iLife.

Only time will tell how quickly your MacBook Pro will be Rosetta-free...
 
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