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Apple Releases the MacBook Pro
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Awesome, I just ordered my first Mac, the MacBook Pro. The $200 educational discount is what did it for me.
Awesome, I just ordered my first Mac, the MacBook Pro. The $200 educational discount is what did it for me. It's funny what Google comes up with when you search for "MacBook," Apple sure kept this under wraps.
Well, I'm very excited about the macBook. It's got everything I could hope for, especially the brighter screen and Front Row. I'm going to buy one for sure, but I am deciding between the two models. The faster processor would be sweet, but really, is it worth the $500? I think for my needs the "slower" one would work out great. What do you all think? What models will you be buying, and will you be upgrading them at all?
battery life???? ---agreed
im gonna agree with previous statements... as a college student who depends upon battery life as one of the main features in selecting a laptop... this is a little worrysome... no mention of it anywhere... it better be 4-5 hours still because the whole point of switching to intel was more power per watt... right?
im gonna agree with previous statements... as a college student who depends upon battery life as one of the main features in selecting a laptop... this is a little worrysome... no mention of it anywhere... it better be 4-5 hours still because the whole point of switching to intel was more power per watt... right?
mlrproducts said:
Was hoping for a 13.3" widescreen version too. But oh well. Maybe that will come later (WWDC?).
Edu. discount puts the 1.67GHz version @ $1799 for me (1.83GHz is $2299). So tempted. In my cart as I write. Now whether to take the plunge now or wait for a smaller 13.3" version?
I wonder how well these runs PPC apps under Rosetta compared to the G4 counterparts. Anyone?
Good to see Apple kept the same design. Should minimize Rev. A issues. Maybe a Rev. B will see a completely new design.
Apple's stock price just jumped over 4% today too.
zuggerat said:
Battery Results
These are for the Centrino Duo (Yonah). It seems it gives better battery life compared to older Centrinos. The Battery Life - Business Applications was promising offering 30 more minutes than the old model while giving 16.6% increase in performance.
RoboCop001 said:
No it is not just you. I don't see it either... there goes my wallet back in my pocket.
1. I would love to know what the battery life is.
2. I would love to know about the superdrive.
3. I would love to know if it can connect up to a TV.
4. I would love to know if programs that are running under rosetta are slower or faster than the current G4 PoweBooks.
5. I would love to know why they dropped the FW800.
6. I would love to know if this also includes the same screen issues (lines,D50 tint,etc.) as the current G4 Powerbooks.
7. I would love to know more about the HardDrives.
8. I would love to see the advantages/disadvantages between the 1.67 and the 1.83 - how much faster,how much more drain, how much hotter.
Any ideas?
2. I would love to know about the superdrive.
3. I would love to know if it can connect up to a TV.
4. I would love to know if programs that are running under rosetta are slower or faster than the current G4 PoweBooks.
5. I would love to know why they dropped the FW800.
6. I would love to know if this also includes the same screen issues (lines,D50 tint,etc.) as the current G4 Powerbooks.
7. I would love to know more about the HardDrives.
8. I would love to see the advantages/disadvantages between the 1.67 and the 1.83 - how much faster,how much more drain, how much hotter.
Any ideas?
This is BS. No mention of battery life IS worrysome say what you will. Otherwise they would have mentioned it.
But the biggest screw-up is no DL drive anymore... what's up with that? I guess I'll wait another year until all apps are universal, until Merom is out and Apple has ironed out the bugs.
But the biggest screw-up is no DL drive anymore... what's up with that? I guess I'll wait another year until all apps are universal, until Merom is out and Apple has ironed out the bugs.
Slightly dissapointed
Dunno about anyone else but I'm slightly underwhelmed.
It's dissapointing that the asthetics remain almost identical, and also the fact that there's only 1 button on the trackpad?? They release a two button mouse(a step forward) and then take a step back by only having one button on their flagship laptop.
Dunno about anyone else but I'm slightly underwhelmed.
It's dissapointing that the asthetics remain almost identical, and also the fact that there's only 1 button on the trackpad?? They release a two button mouse(a step forward) and then take a step back by only having one button on their flagship laptop.
My prediction
My prediction on the future Mac laptop lineup--all aluminum, all one line:
13" MacBook replacing BOTH the iBooks AND the 12" PB
(Maybe two versions: Pro and non-Pro. I'd REALLY love the full Pro features/specs, in a smaller package.)
15" MacBook Pro
17" MacBook Pro
I'm guessing it will all happen by end of March, too.
Can I make myself wait and see what options appear? Can I?
My prediction on the future Mac laptop lineup--all aluminum, all one line:
13" MacBook replacing BOTH the iBooks AND the 12" PB
(Maybe two versions: Pro and non-Pro. I'd REALLY love the full Pro features/specs, in a smaller package.)
15" MacBook Pro
17" MacBook Pro
I'm guessing it will all happen by end of March, too.
Can I make myself wait and see what options appear? Can I?
All I can seriously say is WOW. In a bad way.
MacBook? That sound so bad...please don't tell me MacBook Pro is the old Powerbook and iBook will be replaced with MacBook or MacBook Express. Please, please, please, please.
The iSight is nice, except for the fact that it makes the screen part on the top huge and ugly.
Battery life must have been some hot stuff with all the times they mentioned it!
I just don't know...what's the point of making only 1 model? Is that the most popular? Are they doing a trial run? Man...so much weirdness.
Love the power adapter though, they've GOTTA adapt that to the rest of the portable line if it ever comes!
MacBook? That sound so bad...please don't tell me MacBook Pro is the old Powerbook and iBook will be replaced with MacBook or MacBook Express. Please, please, please, please.
The iSight is nice, except for the fact that it makes the screen part on the top huge and ugly.
Battery life must have been some hot stuff with all the times they mentioned it!
I just don't know...what's the point of making only 1 model? Is that the most popular? Are they doing a trial run? Man...so much weirdness.
Love the power adapter though, they've GOTTA adapt that to the rest of the portable line if it ever comes!
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I'm very excited about the MacBook. Kevin Rose was right about this and everything else he predicted!
I like the built-in iSight, the price is great, it's available next month...oh and that whole 4X faster thing is nice too.
Not having FW 800 won't be a problem for most people. If getting everything else in meant sacrificing FW 800, then I'm all for it. Hopefully it will be possible on some future releases.
I didn't even think about battery life, and you guys are right to be worried. I hope we'll get some info on this soon.
It would be bad if having a laptop 4x as fast means the battery goes down 4x as fast... I don't think it'd be THAT bad, but if they're not bragging about battery life, it can't be as good as the Powerbooks.
But other than that, I am amazed. I never thought the "one more thing" would be PowerBooks, er I mean MacBooks. (Guess people were wrong about the whole PowerBook-doesn't-mean-PowerPC-so-the-name-isn't-going-to-change issue. Their logic was right, but I guess Apple decided it was time for a name change.)
Now someone just needs to donate the money for me t buy a MacBook!
I like the built-in iSight, the price is great, it's available next month...oh and that whole 4X faster thing is nice too.
Not having FW 800 won't be a problem for most people. If getting everything else in meant sacrificing FW 800, then I'm all for it. Hopefully it will be possible on some future releases.
I didn't even think about battery life, and you guys are right to be worried. I hope we'll get some info on this soon.
It would be bad if having a laptop 4x as fast means the battery goes down 4x as fast... I don't think it'd be THAT bad, but if they're not bragging about battery life, it can't be as good as the Powerbooks.
But other than that, I am amazed. I never thought the "one more thing" would be PowerBooks, er I mean MacBooks. (Guess people were wrong about the whole PowerBook-doesn't-mean-PowerPC-so-the-name-isn't-going-to-change issue. Their logic was right, but I guess Apple decided it was time for a name change.)
Now someone just needs to donate the money for me t buy a MacBook!
I need to questions answered:
1. Dual Layer superdrive or single layer?
2. Running Windows?
Number 2 is more essential. I am buying this laptop for my new job. I must have a windows laptop, so if I would LOVE to have both in one.
1. Dual Layer superdrive or single layer?
2. Running Windows?
Number 2 is more essential. I am buying this laptop for my new job. I must have a windows laptop, so if I would LOVE to have both in one.
I wonder why Apple decided to downgrade the SuperDrive. From an 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) to a 4x (DVD±RW/CD-RW).
Half the speed and no Dual Layer!
Half the speed and no Dual Layer!
This is great.
It's interesting that they've picked the iMac (which I never predicted) and Powerbook. It says either
1) The Core Duo are too expensive for the cheaper Macs (for now), OR
2) The Core Duo is too fast for the cheaper Macs - they'd outclass the iMac/PB
Atleast we know cheaper Duo chips are coming soon, so #1 should be okay. And eventually all Macs will switch so #2 won't matter.
I'm not trusting the "4x faster" statistic, though I'm sure they are atleast twice the speed. How much faster was the base level PowerMac than the old iMac G5?
As of now, my mother is a soon-to-be switcher (and she needs Windows so hopefully VPC or VMWare will be released soon!). I'll probably recommend the slower one (and it'll make my father less jealous as he uses his existing PowerBook)
All up great stuff. I hope it looks almost identical to the old.
It's interesting that they've picked the iMac (which I never predicted) and Powerbook. It says either
1) The Core Duo are too expensive for the cheaper Macs (for now), OR
2) The Core Duo is too fast for the cheaper Macs - they'd outclass the iMac/PB
Atleast we know cheaper Duo chips are coming soon, so #1 should be okay. And eventually all Macs will switch so #2 won't matter.
I'm not trusting the "4x faster" statistic, though I'm sure they are atleast twice the speed. How much faster was the base level PowerMac than the old iMac G5?
It's not just the chip speed. You also get a bigger hard disk and more RAM (which accounts for just under half the price difference if you choose smaller RAM chips). It also has double the Video-RAM and the chip speed. I think the price difference is justified, but I'm not sure if I'd need it myself.Aaon said:
As of now, my mother is a soon-to-be switcher (and she needs Windows so hopefully VPC or VMWare will be released soon!). I'll probably recommend the slower one (and it'll make my father less jealous as he uses his existing PowerBook)
All up great stuff. I hope it looks almost identical to the old.
if I had to venture a guess the battery life is less, in the past Intel processor even the mobile ones used more power than any PPC. I would image they had to add some extra electronics to get the intel chips to work with the rest of the system i bet the overall power consumption is more in this product.
Also they changed the power adapter, neat idea, i like it, wish i had it last year before my kid tripped over my power cord and ripped my laptop out of my hand and broke my display. This cause another problem non of the travel adapters will work with this product. Not even sure if the Igo product with the universal tips would work, have to wait an see.
Do not like the idea FW800 is gone, i aways connect my laptop to my desktop and treat it as a extrenal drive to the desktop, transferring files is so fast.
The isight does not swivel, you have to move the display to get the view right this can be a real pain.
Definitely do not like the name, Powerbook is so much better than Macbook. MacBook was orginally considered for the first laptop and was shot down becuase the name seem so obvious and really didn't say much about the product. I think Jobs killed it since it was not his idea.
Also they changed the power adapter, neat idea, i like it, wish i had it last year before my kid tripped over my power cord and ripped my laptop out of my hand and broke my display. This cause another problem non of the travel adapters will work with this product. Not even sure if the Igo product with the universal tips would work, have to wait an see.
Do not like the idea FW800 is gone, i aways connect my laptop to my desktop and treat it as a extrenal drive to the desktop, transferring files is so fast.
The isight does not swivel, you have to move the display to get the view right this can be a real pain.
Definitely do not like the name, Powerbook is so much better than Macbook. MacBook was orginally considered for the first laptop and was shot down becuase the name seem so obvious and really didn't say much about the product. I think Jobs killed it since it was not his idea.
...gayer name. "MacBook Pro"? How camp is that?nagromme said:
Me, I'm happy I've got a PowerBook. It may not be 'Pro', it may be 1.25GHz, but it's cool.
Very exciting. My only concern now is what apps I have that are uncompatable with rosetta.
This from the apple site;
"The Universal truth
Most of the applications that come on your Intel-based Mac are Universal applications, designed for screaming performance with the Intel Core Duo. That includes Mac OS X, iLife ’06, Safari and Mail. Most existing applications will continue to run, thanks to Rosetta. Pro applications from Apple — including Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro, Aperture, Logic Pro, Logic Express, and Final Cut Express — are not supported by Rosetta. For these applications, you can upgrade to the Universal version for minimal cost (see “Apple Applications” to right). Third-party applications that require precision real-time playback may perform better with a Universal version. For the expected arrival dates of Universal versions of third-party applications, check with their manufacturers."
This from the apple site;
"The Universal truth
Most of the applications that come on your Intel-based Mac are Universal applications, designed for screaming performance with the Intel Core Duo. That includes Mac OS X, iLife ’06, Safari and Mail. Most existing applications will continue to run, thanks to Rosetta. Pro applications from Apple — including Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro, Aperture, Logic Pro, Logic Express, and Final Cut Express — are not supported by Rosetta. For these applications, you can upgrade to the Universal version for minimal cost (see “Apple Applications” to right). Third-party applications that require precision real-time playback may perform better with a Universal version. For the expected arrival dates of Universal versions of third-party applications, check with their manufacturers."
This is very exciting, I hear posts about a smaller 13 inch model on this thread, can somebody guide me to the sources? I'm one of those who believes if a laptop is bigger than 12 inches then it's not a laptop, I really wish they stick to the size of the 12inch pbook, and just keep the damn name "PowerBook", so what I wanna know is, how reliable are those sources of a 13inch widescreen, and is there a chance of them coming out with a regular 12 inch?
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