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Apple Releases Thunderbolt Display Firmware Update 1.2
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Where is it?
Whats gives? The link in the article to apple support page is loading a blank page for me. I go a dig around on Apple and all I can find is 1.1
http://support.apple.com/downloads/#displays
Where do I get the 1.2 from?
Whats gives? The link in the article to apple support page is loading a blank page for me. I go a dig around on Apple and all I can find is 1.1
http://support.apple.com/downloads/#displays
Where do I get the 1.2 from?
How about instead of releasing a Thunderbolt Display firmware update, Apple releases a 4K Thunderbolt Display instead!
I'm sure they would love to but it would compete with their recently released new iMac as they were afraid the new mac mini would.
Ever since installing the Yosemite, starting with the public beta, my mid-2011 macbook pro has been really sluggish, especially when connected to my TB Display. This update, for some reason, is making my macbook seem new again. I highly recommend it if you experienced what I did the last couple of months.
That would work, but:
1. It would increase the cost of an already expensive display
2. What GPU do you choose? Will it be faster than the dual GPUs in a mac pro? Any GPU they choose will be outdated eventually. They could add a slot for a GPU, but even then it would probably be slower than two GPU in the Mac Pro, and then you are paying for 4 GPU when only 2 are being used.
So still a bit confused.
The 1.2 update is here, http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1775
downloaded it but when I try to run it, it says that the Thunderbolt software is up to date.
Saw where someone said this might just be for Mac Pro's? I've tried on both our MacBook Pro's and both say already up to date.
The 1.2 update is here, http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1775
downloaded it but when I try to run it, it says that the Thunderbolt software is up to date.
Saw where someone said this might just be for Mac Pro's? I've tried on both our MacBook Pro's and both say already up to date.
I did the update on Friday with my tbd connected to my 2012 Mac mini, it did the TBD update. The tbd update showed as a waiting item in the Mac App Store update list.
Afterward I did the Yosemite beta update on my 2011 MBA and there was (as expected) no indication of a tbd update in the list of items in the Mac App Store updates list.
Since the update was noticed on and installed via my mini it would seem that the update is installed regardless of the issue (or with which kind of Mac the issue manifests ... Note the fade to black affected my tbd when it was connected to my mini and to a lesser degree also my MBA.)
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Different question: I have both my mini and MBA set to install app updates automatically but none of these OS X updates ever really appear to self install or download. (Only the little apps seem to do that.)
Is this normal? I had thought this would be prime territory for power nap to save me time doing system maintenance things.
However, only the 2013 Mac Pro could currently drive a 5K display (unless you concoct a display where one half is driven via the TB port and one via the HDMI port and I don't even know if there is enough internal bandwidth to feed '2.5K' data to both the TB bus and the HDMI port and even then, synchronising the two streams might be tricky, it is possible that this new timing chip in the iMac 5K does something similar).
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No, since those two ports very likely are on one TB bus (the two TB ports on the MBPs are on one bus, no reason to believe the Mac mini is better than that).Is that why the new mini has two Thunderbolt ports?
How about instead of releasing a Thunderbolt Display firmware update, Apple releases a 4K Thunderbolt Display instead!
I am patiently waiting....and waiting.....and waiting.....and hoping.....and crying.
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No Macs accept the current Retina iMac can drive a 5K display I believe. The Mini and MacBooks don't have the graphics horsepower and the Mac Pro doesn't have the proper display port I think. A 4K would be more sensible.
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That is an excellent idea, but I don't think it will sell well because I picture and obscene price point. I think $999 is unreasonable for the current display. I hope for a iMac-inspired design, USB 3, Thunderbolt 2, and 4K resolution for the same price point.
So would this be possible with the current nMP using two ports on separate Buses if a new TBD had two ports?
Just updated since I have a second thunderbolt monitor attached to my 27" iMac and have had some issues in the past. After the update the system restarted, vomitted black text across the white startup screen and hung. I gave it about 20 minutes before giving it a "hard" reboot. It started up fine this time, and is no longer offering the update in the App Store, so I assume it was successful. But an update that goes like this does not give me the warm and fuzzies. I guess this is another incentive for me to hold off on upgrading to Yosemite. Lately updates are just not going very smoothely.
Seems to be working for me. 2012 Mac Mini, for nearly a year (once out of warranty) the display will occasionally go black, especially when plugging or unplugging anything in the USB2 ports on the display. Can use them now without issue. Previously, I had to unplug the display (at the display) and connection to my Mini and then reconnect to get it to work. Was worried that this very expensive display was going to die any day. Hopefully Apple will recall and fix those out of warranty for whoever is not helped by this update, as it seems to be a well known and pervasive problem.
In principle yes, you just need the right display drivers and the right hardware in the display to mux the two signals again (that timing controller in the iMac 5K might be exactly there for this purpose, to mux two video streams coming from two different busses into on synchronised image). The question is how universal such a solution would be, ie, whether any computer (with two TB or DP busses) could drive it.
It did not fix my issue where the USB Apple keyboard would not be recognized after a reboot. Come on, Apple.
that is only true if you are talking about a 5k display.
TB2 can certainly pitch 4k bandwidth, then it is just a matter of how you set scaling/best for monitor.
Sure a 4K display would not match with the pixel density of the 5k iMac. However most of their customers for a new TBD are probably not iMac owners, but MBP and nMP owners.
Personally I find this news disheartening. I'd much rather Apple focus on releasing either a 4k display, or an updated model of the current TB display that includes USB3, TB2 (with an output port) and a case that matches the current iMac design. Not the iMac from 4 years ago!
IMHO we won't see any more Apple branded Monitors.
The value proposition is just too small for Apple with many competitors offering 4K displays in the sub $1000 segment.
Heck, you can buy 4K 50" TV/Monitors now for $1000:
http://www.extremetech.com/electron...-for-1000-thanks-to-new-custom-backlight-tech
The way Apple sees it, you can buy a 21.5" or 27" Monitor with a computer built-in! In addition, they now offer a 5K Monitor.
Does anyone think by halving the mainboard and just saving on the cpu, gpu, ram & drive they'd drop the $2.5K price to $1K ? Dream on.
If they'd planned it, the key moment would've been the intro of the new Mac Pro. Since that didn't happen, Apple Monitors are going the way of the Apple Image/Laserwriters. They're leaving the small-margin peripherals business to others.
The value proposition is just too small for Apple with many competitors offering 4K displays in the sub $1000 segment.
Heck, you can buy 4K 50" TV/Monitors now for $1000:
http://www.extremetech.com/electron...-for-1000-thanks-to-new-custom-backlight-tech
The way Apple sees it, you can buy a 21.5" or 27" Monitor with a computer built-in! In addition, they now offer a 5K Monitor.
Does anyone think by halving the mainboard and just saving on the cpu, gpu, ram & drive they'd drop the $2.5K price to $1K ? Dream on.
If they'd planned it, the key moment would've been the intro of the new Mac Pro. Since that didn't happen, Apple Monitors are going the way of the Apple Image/Laserwriters. They're leaving the small-margin peripherals business to others.
It depends on if Apple thinks there is value in having their own displays or not. The value in the Thunderbolt display isn't the display itself, but rather that it can be used as a docking solution for the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro. Since neither of those laptops has a way of driving an external 5k monitor at the moment, Apple is probably holding off until they have a solution that works for them before offering a standalone 5k monitor.
As for price, there is plenty of cost for Apple to shave off an iMac. Will it be $999 like the current display? Who knows? By the time they offer it, maybe it will be reasonable to sell it for that price. They were still selling the 27" LED display up until recently for $999, despite the fact that the Thunderbolt display was a better overall value (less connections, built in gigabit ethernet, additional Thunderbolt port for daisy chaining).
I think it's too early to call Apple done with displays. They consistently have better quality displays on their laptops, iMacs, iPads and iPhones than the competition. It would be a shame if Mac users that wanted a 2nd display (or the primary display for the Mini and the Mac Pro) had to go with a sub-par display because Apple left that market.