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Carpool karaoke is so 2016, everyone's tired of it already. Another bad decision by apple.
 
"According to rumors..." Good grief. If Apple didn't care about the Mac they wouldn't have introduced the touchbar Mac. They would have updated the existing model with new chips and been done with it. Also if Apple didn't care about the Mac they wouldn't be updating macOS every year! Sheesh people.

Well some consider the first a tech gimmick and the second a marketing gimmick .

If apple cared about mac .....see the buyers guide! :) there lies the reality
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Please also apologize for Boris!

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We were going to apologise for the clown, but a bigger clown stole his thunder....with a worse hair cut :p
 
On a related note I've just given Apple Music another try, I haven't touched it since using the free trial and going straight back to Spotify. Amazed to find its still an absolute mess. Do Apple not actually bother testing software these days?

Look at this drag arrow that is begging for Notification Centre to be dragged in everytime you try to touch it! I've been using the App for ten minutes and its already happened five times. Spotify put that control on the right hand side so that it doesnt interfere with Notification centre. How can Apple get that so wrong on their own OS? Incredible.


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Lol, you can tug down from anywhere, you don't have to touch that arrow. Just pull down from the middle of the album art.
 
Lol, you can tug down from anywhere, you don't have to touch that arrow. Just pull down from the middle of the album art.

Wasn't aware of that until I read your post. It's not intuitive to drag down to close that panel from the middle of album art. It's even less intuitive to drag down the panel from the white space between the playback controls and the song/album text (see attached screenshot), yet it is actually possible to do so - this appears to be the lowest point from which dragging down can be completed. The only way to have found that out is by word of mouth, or by sheer accident. One would naturally reach as close as possible to the down arrow, rather than going for anything substantially lower down than that. Weird design!


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Wasn't aware of that until I read your post. It's not intuitive to drag down to close that panel from the middle of album art. It's even less intuitive to drag down the panel from the white space between the playback controls and the song/album text (see attached screenshot), yet it is actually possible to do so - this appears to be the lowest point from which the panel can be dragged down. The only way to have found this out is by word of mouth, or by sheer accident. One would naturally reach as close as possible to the down arrow, rather than going for anything substantially lower down than that. Weird design!


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I don't know. It felt intuitive to me. In fact, I never tried what you're suggesting haha. This is how you get rid of photos, etc now too. You just flick the photo off screen. You can pull control centre down from anywhere on it as well. You may actually not have noticed that the music playback screen is scrollable either. You can scroll down in it.
 
I don't know. It felt intuitive to me. In fact, I never tried what you're suggesting haha. This is how you get rid of photos, etc now too. You just flick the photo off screen. You can pull control centre down from anywhere on it as well. You may actually not have noticed that the music playback screen is scrollable either. You can scroll down in it.

I find it just as weird on the control centre. Although it is possible to drag down from anywhere on it, it's far more comfortable to drag down from the top of it, and that also reduces the chance of mistakenly pressing a button inside the control centre window.

On the music app, the thing I find most odd is that the panel system is limited to the now playing screen. The rest of the app doesn't use that system, so there is some inconsistency in the design. The scrolling on the playback screen that you highlighted represents a related flaw. Firstly, it isn't obvious that one can even scroll down in this manner (another accidental find, if one discovers that out at all). Secondly, once you scroll down and can see the list of songs, you can't close that panel until you scroll all the way back up, then drag down to close the panel. That's quite an inefficient process: push up with your finger, only to pull down with your finger straight away, in order to close that panel and progress back to the main screen. If it was possible to go back to the main screen via one of the bottom buttons accessible on any other screen other than the play back screen, there would be far fewer steps, and it would be more efficient and intuitive. In my opinion, the entire app needs serious revision. I find it worse than the iOS9 version.
 
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I find it just as weird on the control centre. Although it is possible to drag down from anywhere on it, it's far more comfortable to drag down from the top of it, and that also reduces the chance of mistakenly pressing a button inside the control centre window.

On the music app, the thing I find most odd is that the panel system is limited to the now playing screen. The rest of the app doesn't use that system, so there is some inconsistency in the design. The scrolling on the playback screen that you highlighted represents a related flaw. Firstly, it isn't obvious that one can even scroll down in this manner (another accidental find, if one discovers that out at all). Secondly, once you scroll down and can see the list of songs, you can't close that panel until you scroll all the way back up, then drag down to close the panel. That's quite an inefficient process: push up with your finger, only to pull down with your finger straight away, in order to close that panel and progress back to the main screen. If it was possible to go back to the main screen via one of the bottom buttons accessible on any other screen other than the play back screen, there would be far fewer steps, and it would be more efficient and intuitive. In my opinion, the entire app needs serious revision. I find it worse than the iOS9 version.
If you tap the status bar anywhere in iOS it will scroll all the way to the top. You can also just tap the down arrow. You don't have to physically slide it off screen.
 
If you tap the status bar anywhere in iOS it will scroll all the way to the top. You can also just tap the down arrow. You don't have to physically slide it off screen.
The point is two fold: 1) these things aren't obvious at all - the design isn't intuitive; and 2) that's partly because there are so many design inconsistencies throughout both the music app and the entire OS (as set out in the previous posts)
 
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Lol, you can tug down from anywhere, you don't have to touch that arrow. Just pull down from the middle of the album art.

Its honestly irrelevant whether you can drag it from other areas of the screen, its a terrible and unnecessary design decision. Just put the UI button and inch and a half to the left or right, problem solved.
 
The fact that many here appear to be more than willing to actually watch this crap that Apple is about to unleash is sad. It's like Stockholm Syndrome writ large, seriously. Tim Cook's Apple will ignore it's core customer base (sorry, what USED to be it's core customer base) by displaying disdain for anything but iDevices and "services" and waste it's time and resources on this garbage, and you absolutely love them for it. You are utter prisoners and you do not seem to mind at all. Enjoy your Apple-branded future, whatever it may be.

Apple is more than just the Mac computer. Has it ever occurred to you that many of Apple's current user base only entered the Apple ecosystem precisely because of its new product strategy? Why is it so hard to believe and accept that there are people who love the Apple ecosystem, but simply aren't as passionate about the Mac as you are?

What's wrong with Apple catering to their preference? This just goes to show that Apple knows its user base better than you are giving Apple credit for.
 
Corden and his channel for utter bile-talking Hollywood elitists is growing very old now. What utter rubbish. Wake me up when the nightmare is over, please.

Someone in America is no doubt 'super excited' about this, as fake emotion dribbles off their sad little faces.
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Lol, you can tug down from anywhere, you don't have to touch that arrow. Just pull down from the middle of the album art.
Easy going on the tug 'n' touches.
 
Its honestly irrelevant whether you can drag it from other areas of the screen, its a terrible and unnecessary design decision. Just put the UI button and inch and a half to the left or right, problem solved.
Except that doesn't solve anything, because you can pull notification centre down from anywhere at the top of the display.

I think it's perfectly clear that you can tap the down arrow to dismiss the popover. It's also completely consistent with control centre. In fact, control centre doesn't even have an arrow to dismiss it anymore, the action of making it appear makes clear the action of making it go away. And think about spotlight. You access that by tugging down in the centre of the home screen. Apple, in iOS, tends to always have a fast way that is someone obtuse of doing things and an obvious way that is slower. The fast way to access settings is control centre, but it's non-obvious. The slow way is through Settings. The fast way of seeing your notifications is notification centre. The slow but obvious way is to tap on apps that have badges. In music, the fast but not obvious thing is to pull the now playing screen down (though I'd say the animation provides plenty of evidence to the user how to do this but I digress). The slower but obvious way is to tap the down arrow.
 
with all the resources and money Apple has today, they choose BS over building state of the art computers

sad
 
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